Marconius
One-eyed Wonder Mod
+368|6946|San Francisco
Ho-hum...just your standard "B..B..B...Bu..But Clinton!!!1!1!" write up.
paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|6991
ATG about your sig I was just wondering are you implying that Bush is a Puppet?

And if yes who's pulling the strings?
Jepeto87
Member
+38|6937|Dublin
Thank you Mr Clinton for not starting a war that has led to the deaths of at least 43546  (Iraqibodycount.net)of my fellow country men.

Your sincerly

Grateful Iraqi citizen.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6743|Northern California
So funny ATG complains to Clinton about all kinds of insignificant shit but not one important thing like "Thanks for slaughtering 100,000 Iraqis!"  or "Thanks for filling the air in the middle east with the unlawful use of depleted uranium that has caused birth defects and other ailments for generations to come!"  No, we see that you failed to keep your 8 year old son from watching an overinflated sex scandal.  Seriously, did it effect you that Clinton got a blow job?  That he wished to keep it secret instead of trying to make ammends with his humiliated wife?  Or can you not think of people as people but as some sub-species because you dont' agree with them?

ATG, I'm sorry you're an angry, simple-minded, backwards thinking fool, but Clinton lieing about getting blown by a fat intern did not kill 100,000 iraqis.  Clinton's "high crime or misdemeanor" that he got impeached for is hardly comparable to the shredding of "that goddamned piece of paper [constitution]" that Bush has done.  It's nothing compared to purposefully planning to invade Iraq since he took office (yes, even Abrahmoff knew about it long before "diplomacy started in 2002"), which invasion has made the US and it's interests much, much more at risk of attack.   And NO, Clinton's lie about a blow job is not even close to being something to frown on compared to the debt our country is in.  If you can't see that, then you are a used and abused tool of a corrupt group of anti-americans also known as neo-conservative republicans.  And your reward will be just.

Last edited by IRONCHEF (2006-10-03 10:30:11)

Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6898
Everyone would pork a fat chick, but won't tell their friends about it.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6781|Global Command

paranoid101 wrote:

ATG about your sig I was just wondering are you implying that Bush is a Puppet?

And if yes who's pulling the strings?
Yes he is, and I am the puppet master.
Aenima_Eyes
Member
+20|6903

IRONCHEF wrote:

So funny ATG complains to Clinton about all kinds of insignificant shit but not one important thing like "Thanks for slaughtering 100,000 Iraqis!"  or "Thanks for filling the air in the middle east with the unlawful use of depleted uranium that has caused birth defects and other ailments for generations to come!"  No, we see that you failed to keep your 8 year old son from watching an overinflated sex scandal.  Seriously, did it effect you that Clinton got a blow job?  That he wished to keep it secret instead of trying to make ammends with his humiliated wife?  Or can you not think of people as people but as some sub-species because you dont' agree with them?

ATG, I'm sorry you're an angry, simple-minded, backwards thinking fool, but Clinton lieing about getting blown by a fat intern did not kill 100,000 iraqis.  Clinton's "high crime or misdemeanor" that he got impeached for is hardly comparable to the shredding of "that goddamned piece of paper [constitution]" that Bush has done.  It's nothing compared to purposefully planning to invade Iraq since he took office (yes, even Abrahmoff knew about it long before "diplomacy started in 2002"), which invasion has made the US and it's interests much, much more at risk of attack.   And NO, Clinton's lie about a blow job is not even close to being something to frown on compared to the debt our country is in.  If you can't see that, then you are a used and abused tool of a corrupt group of anti-americans also known as neo-conservative republicans.  And your reward will be just.
I thought Saddam was the one that slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. . .and that's why we found all those mass graves.....
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6697|The Land of Scott Walker

Bertster7 wrote:

ATG wrote:

2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral sex. I had really planned to wait until they were older to discuss it with them, but now they know more about it than I did as a senior in college.
That's one US citizen who must have had a dull time in college. No wonder he's a neo-con, must be all that bitterness.
You're one citizen who obviously has no kids.  Being a whore in college has nothing to do with politics.
OpsChief
Member
+101|6928|Southern California
lol ATG good stuff, funny - you left out the close friends of the Clinton's who died mysteriously during his presidency.

RE: item 8. on your list is not entirely accurate. While the US Military did downsize significantly during the Clinton years most of the planning to downsize occured between 1989-1991 (end of cold war reductions) under Bush the elder. Clinton executed Bush's reduction plan more or less. GW Bush would have executed Clinton's plan if 9/11 didn't happen. Ford and Carter managed the post Vietnam reductions similarly.

Military changes work on 5-10-20 year cycles which are tremendously difficult to change up or down within one 4-yr term unless a war starts or ends or sometimes a new technology will change something. Some reductions say from 1998-2001 might have been planned on Clinton's watch but we had already cut about 35-40% by '99 (from '91 numbers).

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"..."Well, I guess it depends on your definition of sexual relations...I understand it differently..." Pres. WJ CLinton, Impeachment Hearings 

All Kings and Presidents lie, lied, will lie. They will all say and do something stupid. Some of them can't help it, some of them can. Which is worse?
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6789|Long Island, New York
Compared to all of Bush's fuckups, Clinton's impeachment/scandal is NOTHING. Even though all of this happened, Clinton still remained popular and did a good job. The economy had never been better.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6781|Global Command
Yet the stock market today is at an all time high.
Home ownership is at an all time high.
Median income level for blacks is at an all time high.


WTF are you talking about?
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|7081|Grapevine, TX

Cougar wrote:

Nevermind.  You rock ATG.  +5
QFE, and none complaning about this email can dispute ONE line. Perfect +10... From Teflon
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6781|Global Command
Wow + 5's and +10's
read 'em and weep boyz.
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6832|the dank(super) side of Oregon
I am still failing to see how a fat guy getting a blowjob from a fat chick is somehow worse than the shit Bush has pulled.   Does Clinton have the blood of over 100k Iraqi civilians on his hands?  I'm sure all those HUMAN BEINGS are very appreciative of the freedom and democracy we gave them.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6781|Global Command
100k Iraqi civilians?
WTF are you talking about ?!
Got a link?
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6832|the dank(super) side of Oregon
well, this is from 2 years ago.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/29/iraq.deaths/

http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/p … _Iraq.html

Last edited by Reciprocity (2006-10-03 18:59:59)

KevMunro
Bring a Towel
+8|6683|Brisbane
Dear Mr Clinton;

Big ups! Another notch on the belt eh chap? Nice one! *Shouts beer*

Sincerely and admirably,
Kev

P.S. I liked you better than the tool in power now.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6801|Southeastern USA

JimmyBotswana wrote:

Damn ATG you fail like no one I have ever seen fail before.
cricket cricket, go make another thread about demolishing a world trade building
The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
+261|6752|Los Angeles

ATG wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Compared to all of Bush's fuckups, Clinton's impeachment/scandal is NOTHING. Even though all of this happened, Clinton still remained popular and did a good job. The economy had never been better.
Yet the stock market today is at an all time high.
Home ownership is at an all time high.
Median income level for blacks is at an all time high.


WTF are you talking about?
Stock market is at an all time high?

https://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3842/stockmarkettv8.png

Interesting - it certainly looks as though the stock market was at an all time high on someone else's watch. And that your statement was false. But I'll bite - what's your source, ATG?

ATG wrote:

Home ownership is at an all time high.
Yeah, how about those home ownership stats?

https://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5494/homeownerrc6.png

So you're technically wrong - we're not at an all time high. The peak WAS on Bush's watch two years ago, but in 2005, home ownership started dropping for the first time in over a decade. Still falling in 06.

Home ownership soared 3.4% on Clinton's watch. The biggest rise SINCE THE US CENSUS STARTED TRACKING THE STAT. 0.8% up so far during the reign of Bush II, after dropping for the past couple years. Not necessarily a ringing endorsement.

ATG wrote:

Median income level for blacks is at an all time high.
Now THAT'S a very specific statistic to quote.

I can't say I know much about this at all. My gut would question what sorts of related programs and initiatives the Bush administration have pushed to make your statement true. But hey forget it - let's just look at the data.

https://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2146/blackmedianincomesn6.png

Then we have recent major newspapers' take on the fresh data:

Washington Times wrote:

Based on the race and Hispanic origin of the householder, for example, real median household incomes increased by $336 to $48,554 for whites; decreased by $243 to $30,858 for blacks; rose by $1,667 to $61,094 for Asians; and increased by $550 to $35,967 for Hispanics.
ATG, what sources are you using to form your opinions? Fact checking? Hello?

ATG wrote:

WTF are you talking about?
Funny, I was just about to ask you the same question. Judging from the data you cited, Poseidon was right.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6801|Southeastern USA
I don't know if you meant to, but your income graph is just of one very specific demographic, while overall income was up, and he most likely meant the Dow, at least that's what I usually refer to, I believe it had a short spike in 99 that was dramatic yet shortlived, a 1500 point or so drop immediately afterward
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6781|Global Command
Wow ship, you certainly did your homework.

I read the Orange County Register everyday, the O.C. weekly every week and the L.A. Times twice a week to be balanced. As well as Matt Drudge, world net daily and other misc. news sites and blogs.
I dont watch television.

Today 10-3-06 the stock market closed at something liked 11770, a all time high.

Do a google search for, Larry Elder kabc790 los angeles, to get a lot of great info from a brotha who should be president.

We can all find links and such to justify our various opinions.
I didn't click all over yours.


But I tip my hat to an excellent post.

fuck
dow, stock market wtf ever, I got money there.

Last edited by ATG (2006-10-03 22:14:43)

Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6968
People love clinton because he kissed a lot of asses.
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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7023|PNW

Marconius wrote:

Ho-hum...just your standard "B..B..B...Bu..But Clinton!!!1!1!" write up.
Watch. Next Democratic president we have that does something someone doesn't like, there will be "B..B..B...Bu..But Bush!!!1!1!" write-ups.
Aenima_Eyes
Member
+20|6903
Yeah. . .usually when the previous President claims responsibility for all the economic success while a bunch of tech nerds run businesses that don't generate any profits and the market hits an all time high and then the U.S. gets attacked by terrorists...that will cause the economy to slow down.  Instead of coming to a screeching halt like it would have w/o the tax cuts, our economy is already back to kicking ass.  DOW hits a new all time high and things are great.  Wouldn't know it tho if you just listened to Dems. . .a good economy doesn't help their bids for congress.....
Shopvac
If it doesn't say shop-vac keep shopping!
+25|6791|Grand Rapids, MI
Tax cuts . . . That's a great answer. With all the debt our children are in, I should maximize my own selfishness by charging the baby in my wife's belly rent so I can get that Plasma TV I've been wanting.

By the way (and I don't have the numbers from your list in front of me), The silverware thing, turns out that the people who came in after Clinton left office made that up. You can check out the GAO report (that cost I don't know how much money) that found that all the stories about the missing "W" keys and the kegs and dildos left all over the oval office were . . . um . . . not true.

Second, How on God's green earth can you say that Clinton's foreign policy was wrong. Some idiots voted for Bush when he campaigned on a platform of "no nation building." Even "Bush the Second" said that Clinton's foreign policy was too involved. At least Clinton tried to prevent genocide in places like Albania, and in the former Yugoslav republics. Some here have suggested that The US is bordering on genocide in certain areas. I would not go that far, but where is the outrage over Darfur, and other Central African Nations where the indiscriminat violence would make Thor (the mighty god of war) vomit.

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