So its a big particle accelerator? Real-life phase cannon perhaps?
lolunnamednewbie13 wrote:
I suppose if they can invent scrolls of town portal without flooding North America with hellish demons...
their theory at CERN is that that "Someone", was an entity of pure energy who clapped his proverbial hands and created matter, or the universe as we know itwombatman4 wrote:
all that to figure out how the world was made. I wonder if when their attempt to make a "big bang" fails they'll realize that Someone made everything. and that when you smash things together really really fast a new universe is discovered. it's either that or they'll make up a new theory.
what they're doing is the same thing on a relatively infintessimal scale
basically they only get as much matter as the energy they put in
so they may create mini universes, but nothing that will have any effect on the sizeable universe that we know
they may in fact, in this research, essentially prove God exists, and that his energy was used to create everything
the church, methinks, denounces these experiements simply because they believe their ideas will soon be without much merit...
would it really be that displeasing to find out that we all are, in fact, a small piece of God in material form?
i personally don't think so
and trust me, their goal is not to disprove God, but rather what God really is...
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yeah sure, if they could build a tube full of magnets to their targets without anyone noticing roflPubic wrote:
So its a big particle accelerator? Real-life phase cannon perhaps?
um, if ppl don't buy their games, how can they justify the expense of fixing them? or making newer games down the line?Pubic wrote:
DONT BUY BF2142 OR ANY MORE BF2 EXPANSIONS UNTIL THEY FIX BF2!!!
if they spent all their human resources on fixing and tweaking every little detail, they'd go broke, and we wouldnt have ANYTHING to play
I'm very curious too see their findings & to finally have some new ideas & answers to some hard questions, all the books I have read on physics are all stuck at this spot waiting... how great the human mind is to reach several contradictions & realize that it is an error in ones thinking because there are no contradictions & then to go out & make a new machine to learn more about what they do not know. Amazing & inspiring
Usually I'd say good on them or go for it.
but.
If they fuck this up were totally screwed, lets not forget no matter the size of a black hole it can suck all matter into a singularity, even light. I'm going to say one of these five things will happen:
1) A black hole is created, all matter on earth is sucked into a singularity and destoryed. The force of which is so powerful that atoms themselves can be destoryed.
2) A second demension is created, in which case we'll either spend trillions of dollars trying to get people onto the other side or something will come out of it. They will come and roam the earth, destory countries and a last ditch effort is then put in place to destory them, in which we fail.
3) The atoms hit each other that they either fuse together or shatter causing neclear fallout on a rather small scale (about 5 meters) because the atoms used are so stable. Thus the theory of the big bang is proven wrong.
4) The experiment happens, Murphy's law comes into play and the earth is somehow thrown into a neclear winter or an unthinkable armigeddon.
5) It happens, it works and a small transdimensional hole is created for about 0.0004 of a second, no one really cares and it is featured on the back page of the local newspaper.
Luck I'm not a betting man eh?
but.
If they fuck this up were totally screwed, lets not forget no matter the size of a black hole it can suck all matter into a singularity, even light. I'm going to say one of these five things will happen:
1) A black hole is created, all matter on earth is sucked into a singularity and destoryed. The force of which is so powerful that atoms themselves can be destoryed.
2) A second demension is created, in which case we'll either spend trillions of dollars trying to get people onto the other side or something will come out of it. They will come and roam the earth, destory countries and a last ditch effort is then put in place to destory them, in which we fail.
3) The atoms hit each other that they either fuse together or shatter causing neclear fallout on a rather small scale (about 5 meters) because the atoms used are so stable. Thus the theory of the big bang is proven wrong.
4) The experiment happens, Murphy's law comes into play and the earth is somehow thrown into a neclear winter or an unthinkable armigeddon.
5) It happens, it works and a small transdimensional hole is created for about 0.0004 of a second, no one really cares and it is featured on the back page of the local newspaper.
Luck I'm not a betting man eh?
dimension implosion ftw!
Hi all,
Well, honestly even if the risk to blow up the planet or suck it in another dimension is (almost) nil - I probably wouldn't try it.... on the other hand with that attitude we probably woulnd't have the wheel or the automobile for that matter.
Let them try, if it doesn't work we'll probably never know (yei...isn't that comforting). It seems though that most theories here come straight from "Angels & Demons" (same author as the Da Vinci Code)...
do we have any Cern nerds playing bf2 and reading/posting on these forums that could shed some light on this affair???
Well, honestly even if the risk to blow up the planet or suck it in another dimension is (almost) nil - I probably wouldn't try it.... on the other hand with that attitude we probably woulnd't have the wheel or the automobile for that matter.
Let them try, if it doesn't work we'll probably never know (yei...isn't that comforting). It seems though that most theories here come straight from "Angels & Demons" (same author as the Da Vinci Code)...
do we have any Cern nerds playing bf2 and reading/posting on these forums that could shed some light on this affair???
Sigh. Why should I bother? This person obviously is too similar to Jamdude - can't see facts, ignores other facts, reposts his 'facts' again and again and again...wombatman4 wrote:
all that to figure out how the world was made. I wonder if when their attempt to make a "big bang" fails they'll realize that Someone made everything. and that when you smash things together really really fast a new universe is discovered. it's either that or they'll make up a new theory.
The point isn't to make another big bang, sheesh, people!
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
My head will soon implode from all this scientific thinking
*pop*
*pop*
I need around tree fiddy.
I was wondering when someone would mention Angels and Demons. The post by IntrebuloN makes me think he's read it though. The whole religious-theory possibilities by creating matter from nothing.Herc82 wrote:
Hi all,
Well, honestly even if the risk to blow up the planet or suck it in another dimension is (almost) nil - I probably wouldn't try it.... on the other hand with that attitude we probably woulnd't have the wheel or the automobile for that matter.
Let them try, if it doesn't work we'll probably never know (yei...isn't that comforting). It seems though that most theories here come straight from "Angels & Demons" (same author as the Da Vinci Code)...
do we have any Cern nerds playing bf2 and reading/posting on these forums that could shed some light on this affair???
I hope that this leads to the invention of holo-decks! Particle acceleration!! YAY!
my god.. I'm surrounded by physics nerds...
Don't worry, even if they do manage to create tiny little black holes they evaporate in a tiny fraction of a second anyway so I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.
Because if they don't fix them then people, knowing they make buggy products, won't buy future EA games and will deny EA future revenue. 1.4 seems to be stable again, so I guess I should remove that, cheers for the reminder.IntrebuloN wrote:
um, if ppl don't buy their games, how can they justify the expense of fixing them? or making newer games down the line?Pubic wrote:
DONT BUY BF2142 OR ANY MORE BF2 EXPANSIONS UNTIL THEY FIX BF2!!!
if they spent all their human resources on fixing and tweaking every little detail, they'd go broke, and we wouldnt have ANYTHING to play
And to give this a moderately on-topic slant, paying for buggy games is about as good a use as using your money as fuel for the CERN thing
Source please, or I'm just gonna have to call it... Bluff.basetballjones wrote:
Black holes are not what alot of us older peeps learned in school. It has been shown that they are not the giant, space sucking, world eating monsters we once thought. It has also been shown that objects can even gravitate all the way to the event horizon(edge of the black hole's throat) and then leave again.
Again, can you provide a source?basetballjones wrote:
Telescopic images have shown unknown, completely new parts of the universe on the other end of a wormhole, oddly mimicing star trek, but there, nonetheless.
If you want to mimic Star Trek, lets look at the Bajoran Wormhole:
I can't see through to the other side...
As for "telescope", in the optical sense, the only one of significance in orbit is the Hubble Space Telescope. However, this has not photographed any wormholes, let alone see through them.
basetballjones wrote:
Black holes may even be able to be controlled through environment, so we may one day travel through manmade, miniature black holes...
That is what happens... we can never do it.Wikipedia.org wrote:
no object beyond the event horizon of a black hole can ever escape, including light.
Mcminty.
As for basetballjones' arguments, a source would be great (as mcminty pointed out).CERN Scientists wrote:
1. Make miniature Big Bang and black holes
2.
3. Profit
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I need around tree fiddy.
Trilogy?S3v3N wrote:
Goobacks (from southpark)ATG wrote:
goobacks?
Headcrabs?
I obviously missed something; reverting to lurker status.
Headcrabs (From Half Life Trilogy)
It's gone a bit beyond a trilogy. Both HL and HL2 have two expansions.Coolbeano wrote:
Trilogy?S3v3N wrote:
Goobacks (from southpark)ATG wrote:
goobacks?
Headcrabs?
I obviously missed something; reverting to lurker status.
Headcrabs (From Half Life Trilogy)
I seriously, seriously, seriously doubt that it'll do any damage. It is SIX TO TEN STORIES BELOW GROUND. You could bury radioactive waste there (given you had a bit of lead) and no-one would notice.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Just wondering how they calculated that probability. Do they have some kind of prior experience to go by?Fancy_Pollux wrote:
* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.
* The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance.
- REUTERS
Like all science, it's best guess.aardfrith wrote:
Just wondering how they calculated that probability. Do they have some kind of prior experience to go by?Fancy_Pollux wrote:
* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.
* The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance.
- REUTERS
i think that these blackholes are so small that they arent stable enough to last very long, they still have alot of mass for there size but not enough to exist for very long (in comparison to something as massive as a star collapsing, we are talking about atomic scale matter) . but i know next to nothing about physics. so dont quote me.
I hope we don't meet the Bugs from "Starship Troopers" (the movie),
there have been enough in BF2 already
there have been enough in BF2 already
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