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2006-09-28 16:03:43

#351

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6854|132 and Bush

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:
i think we should cut all foreign aid to middle eastern countries including ISRAEL.. wait 2 years and deal with the winner

The United States gives $13.3 billion tax dollars in direct Foreign Aid annually. The United States is above and beyond the single most generous benefactor of the United Nations, donating $2.4 billion dollars of OUR money, to primarily third-world dictators.

This amount is 25% of the United Nations budget. In addition, the United States also gives another $1.4 billion tax dollars to United Nations' programs and agencies. The American taxpayers fund more for the United Nations than ALL of the other 177 member nations COMBINED.

What most Americans do not realize is that the vast majority of the recipients of US Foreign Aid routinely vote against the wishes of the United States in the UN at an average rate of 74%. In other words, of the $13.3 billion tax dollars invested in direct Foreign Aid only about 26% or $3.5 billion went to support people who endorsed American initiatives or causes. A staggering $9.8 billion tax dollars went to causes and people who were and are in open and direct opposition to the United States' interests and objectives.

Listed below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations' records:

Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time.
Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time.
Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time.
United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.
Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.
Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.
Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.
Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.
India votes against the United States 81% of the time.
Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.
Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time.

US Foreign Aid to those that hate us:

Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United States, still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid.

Jordan votes 71% against the United States and receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

Pakistan votes 75% against the United States receives $6,721,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

India votes 81% against the United States receives $143,699,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

Perhaps it is time to get out of the UN and give the tax savings back to the American workers who are having to skimp and sacrifice to pay the taxes.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/unvote.asp

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-09-28 16:11:20

#352

rawls2: Mr. Bigglesworth; +89|6814

Kmarion wrote:
[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:
i think we should cut all foreign aid to middle eastern countries including ISRAEL.. wait 2 years and deal with the winner
The United States gives $13.3 billion tax dollars in direct Foreign Aid annually. The United States is above and beyond the single most generous benefactor of the United Nations, donating $2.4 billion dollars of OUR money, to primarily third-world dictators.

This amount is 25% of the United Nations budget. In addition, the United States also gives another $1.4 billion tax dollars to United Nations' programs and agencies. The American taxpayers fund more for the United Nations than ALL of the other 177 member nations COMBINED.

What most Americans do not realize is that the vast majority of the recipients of US Foreign Aid routinely vote against the wishes of the United States in the UN at an average rate of 74%. In other words, of the $13.3 billion tax dollars invested in direct Foreign Aid only about 26% or $3.5 billion went to support people who endorsed American initiatives or causes. A staggering $9.8 billion tax dollars went to causes and people who were and are in open and direct opposition to the United States' interests and objectives.

Listed below are the actual voting records of various Arabic/Islamic States which are recorded in both the US State Department and United Nations' records:

Kuwait votes against the United States 67% of the time.
Qatar votes against the United States 67% of the time.
Morocco votes against the United States 70% of the time.
United Arab Emirates votes against the U. S. 70% of the time.
Jordan votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Tunisia votes against the United States 71% of the time.
Saudi Arabia votes against the United States 73% of the time.
Yemen votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Algeria votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Oman votes against the United States 74% of the time.
Sudan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Pakistan votes against the United States 75% of the time.
Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.
Egypt votes against the United States 79% of the time.
Lebanon votes against the United States 80% of the time.
India votes against the United States 81% of the time.
Syria votes against the United States 84% of the time.
Mauritania votes against the United States 87% of the time.

US Foreign Aid to those that hate us:

Egypt, for example, after voting 79% of the time against the United States, still receives $2 billion annually in US Foreign Aid.

Jordan votes 71% against the United States and receives $192,814,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

Pakistan votes 75% against the United States receives $6,721,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

India votes 81% against the United States receives $143,699,000 annually in US Foreign Aid.

Perhaps it is time to get out of the UN and give the tax savings back to the American workers who are having to skimp and sacrifice to pay the taxes.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/unvote.asp

This should be its own thread. +1

2006-09-28 16:24:35

#353

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6854|132 and Bush

Just for you..
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pid=816499#p816499

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-09-28 16:36:17

#354

smtt686: this is the best we can do?; +95|6885|USA

burn an effigy of a muslim religious leader anywhere in the world and see what happens....burn an effigy of the pope if your muslim and thats a-ok

2006-09-28 23:45:04

#355

Tetrino: International OMGWTFBBQ; +200|6984|Uhh... erm...

It's obviously not a-ok if you guys are condemning it. Or is that your definition of a-ok? In that case, wouldn't that mean Muslims are a-ok with the Pope? With Iraq? Hrm?

2006-09-28 23:47:26

#356

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6970

Muslims are way too sensitive when it comes to jokes. They did however prove what the pope said, when he said muslim is spread by the sword, muslims got pissed and started to kill people... GG at proving the pope wrong.

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2006-09-29 04:30:01

#357

mafia996630: © 2009 Jeff Minard; +319|7017|d

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Muslims are way too sensitive when it comes to jokes. They did however prove what the pope said, when he said muslim is spread by the sword, muslims got pissed and started to kill people... GG at proving the pope wrong.

so some radicals killed someone, your gone assume whole Islam is spread by the sword ?
One gay man farts twice a day, you gone say all gay people fart twice a day ?

2006-09-29 06:19:37

#358

Tetrino: International OMGWTFBBQ; +200|6984|Uhh... erm...

Sigh... I hate to say this, but most Muslims in the Middle East are stupid. That's why, instead of resolving this peacefully, they go ballistic. The Muslims in Malaysia are educated, and as such you don't see us running around stabbing nuns.

Education is the key to communication. So bear with them, and let them learn. It'll happen eventually.

2006-09-29 06:26:57

#359

Miller: IT'S MILLER TIME!; +271|7009|United States of America

mafia996630 wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Muslims are way too sensitive when it comes to jokes. They did however prove what the pope said, when he said muslim is spread by the sword, muslims got pissed and started to kill people... GG at proving the pope wrong.
so some radicals killed someone, your gone assume whole Islam is spread by the sword ?
One gay man farts twice a day, you gone say all gay people fart twice a day ?

If some radicals fly a jet into a tower and knock it down I'm going to say that all Arab's present a threat because they could do the same thing, we just don't know wether they will yet.

2006-09-29 06:31:26

#360

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6970

mafia996630 wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Muslims are way too sensitive when it comes to jokes. They did however prove what the pope said, when he said muslim is spread by the sword, muslims got pissed and started to kill people... GG at proving the pope wrong.
so some radicals killed someone, your gone assume whole Islam is spread by the sword ?
One gay man farts twice a day, you gone say all gay people fart twice a day ?

How many churches have they burned? The top leaders of the muslim church commanded that the pope MUST convert to islam. A lot of idiot mulisms are in the middle east, the ones in eastern asia are cool (thats you tetrino ) I have a few muslim friends from eastern asia (malaysia, singapore etc...) and they are very nice people, who even take muslim jokes and do not get offended. I think the heat in the middle east makes them want to jihad someone...

2006-09-29 06:43:43

#361

Tetrino: International OMGWTFBBQ; +200|6984|Uhh... erm...

Yay, I'm cool! Although 'Muslim church' sounds like an oxymoron.

In any case, I agree with CN117. There's something about the Middle East that turns Muslims there into psychos. Wannabe psychos, that is. Me being a perfect psychotic, I can blend into the Eastern Asia crowd whenever I want...

Moving on! Maybe it's the Arab blood...

2006-09-30 01:29:53

#362

thanks_champ: Member; +19|6776

Kmarion wrote:
What most Americans do not realize is that the vast majority of the recipients of US Foreign Aid routinely vote against the wishes of the United States in the UN at an average rate of 74%.

Meh, majority votes against the US haven't stopped the US doing what it wants in the past. (Iraq war anyone?)

2006-09-30 03:31:25

#363

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6905|USA

thanks_champ wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
What most Americans do not realize is that the vast majority of the recipients of US Foreign Aid routinely vote against the wishes of the United States in the UN at an average rate of 74%.
Meh, majority votes against the US haven't stopped the US doing what it wants in the past. (Iraq war anyone?)

If that is true, it is only because the UN is majority anti-American and the US does not let the UN dictate or govern US concerns or policies.

The UN already approved the Gulf war in '91. The US simply refused to let the UN ignore its OWN warnings and deadlines that the UN set forth for action in Iraq. The UN is a joke and a synonym for indecisiveness and shallow or idol threats.

2006-09-30 05:41:47

#364

thanks_champ: Member; +19|6776

Anti-American? Why would they be anti-american?

2006-09-30 07:40:59

#365

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6835|SE London

thanks_champ wrote:
Anti-American? Why would they be anti-american?

Because US foreign policy tends to be shit.

That's why the rest of the world tend to disagree with it.

Yet the US government are so arrogant they dismiss world opinion and get on with doing whatever they want anyway and then have the audacity to claim they have been helping the world out.

2006-09-30 08:19:19

#366

bogo24dk: Member; +26|6760

Bertster7 wrote:
thanks_champ wrote:
Anti-American? Why would they be anti-american?
Because US foreign policy tends to be shit.

That's why the rest of the world tend to disagree with it.

Yet the US government are so arrogant they dismiss world opinion and get on with doing whatever they want anyway and then have the audacity to claim they have been helping the world out.

I want to add something. It's not the Americans which the world is against it's the policies which are conducted by the politicians. And much of the blame has to do with those lobby's which have a very high influence. You got the Jewish lobby, arms lobby, christians lobby , oil lobby and other small ones. But this lobbies share almost the same interest and they don't care about right or wrong. Morality has been washed down the drain along time ago.

2006-09-30 08:26:27

#367

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6783|Global Command

The tree of liberty is fertilized now and then with the blood of patriots, and tyrants.

2006-09-30 20:17:19

#368

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6905|USA

thanks_champ wrote:
Anti-American? Why would they be anti-american?

Oh I dunno,

they hate our western lifesyle?

they hate our power?

they hate our freedom?

they hate our beliefs?

they hate Israel and Israel is our ally?

take yer pick.

2006-09-30 20:48:27

#369

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6699|The Land of Scott Walker

Bertster7 wrote:
Because US foreign policy tends to be shit.

That's why the rest of the world tend to disagree with it.

Yet the US government are so arrogant they dismiss world opinion and get on with doing whatever they want anyway and then have the audacity to claim they have been helping the world out.

What you just said is exactly why the US dismisses "world opinion". No matter what we would decide to do, you'll think it's crap. So why bother?? We get on with what we need to do. World opinion is a joke, anyway, all countries have allies and enemies. It's a weak attempt to leverage the US into doing what they want. Most of these "world opinion" nations have never supported us at any point in the past anyway. It's downright stupid for the US to care about the opinions of those who oppose us at every turn. The US needs to think about itself first and everybody else second, just like all the other nations of the world do.

2006-09-30 21:05:46

#370

kr@cker: Bringin' Sexy Back!; +581|6803|Southeastern USA

Stingray24 wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Because US foreign policy tends to be shit.

That's why the rest of the world tend to disagree with it.

Yet the US government are so arrogant they dismiss world opinion and get on with doing whatever they want anyway and then have the audacity to claim they have been helping the world out.
What you just said is exactly why the US dismisses "world opinion". No matter what we would decide to do, you'll think it's crap. So why bother?? We get on with what we need to do. World opinion is a joke, anyway, all countries have allies and enemies. It's a weak attempt to leverage the US into doing what they want. Most of these "world opinion" nations have never supported us at any point in the past anyway. It's downright stupid for the US to care about the opinions of those who oppose us at every turn. The US needs to think about itself first and everybody else second, just like all the other nations of the world do.

it goes from
"why did you pre-emptively strike iraq who repeatedly threatened to attack"
to
" why haven't you pre-emptively struck north korea"

2006-09-30 21:24:49

#371

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6699|The Land of Scott Walker

kr@cker wrote:
Stingray24 wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Because US foreign policy tends to be shit.

That's why the rest of the world tend to disagree with it.

Yet the US government are so arrogant they dismiss world opinion and get on with doing whatever they want anyway and then have the audacity to claim they have been helping the world out.
What you just said is exactly why the US dismisses "world opinion". No matter what we would decide to do, you'll think it's crap. So why bother?? We get on with what we need to do. World opinion is a joke, anyway, all countries have allies and enemies. It's a weak attempt to leverage the US into doing what they want. Most of these "world opinion" nations have never supported us at any point in the past anyway. It's downright stupid for the US to care about the opinions of those who oppose us at every turn. The US needs to think about itself first and everybody else second, just like all the other nations of the world do.
it goes from
"why did you pre-emptively strike iraq who repeatedly threatened to attack"
to
" why haven't you pre-emptively struck north korea"

Strange how that works, huh. UN condemns a nation til it's blue in the face and then we carry out the actions of the consensus and suddenly we're too quick to use force.

2006-09-30 22:28:37

#372

Ikarti: Banned - for ever.; +231|6963|Wilmington, DE, US

lowing wrote:
thanks_champ wrote:
Anti-American? Why would they be anti-american?
Oh I dunno,

they hate our western lifesyle?

they hate our power?

they hate our freedom?

they hate our beliefs?

they hate Israel and Israel is our ally?

take yer pick.

I just won Jingo Bingo on this post, lowing. Thanks.

2006-09-30 22:36:01

#373

thanks_champ: Member; +19|6776

lowing wrote:
thanks_champ wrote:
Anti-American? Why would they be anti-american?
Oh I dunno,

they hate our western lifesyle?

they hate our power?

they hate our freedom?

they hate our beliefs?

they hate Israel and Israel is our ally?

take yer pick.

Ah dear. brainwashed son. brainwashed.

2006-09-30 22:52:21

#374

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6699|The Land of Scott Walker

thanks_champ wrote:
lowing wrote:
thanks_champ wrote:
Anti-American? Why would they be anti-american?
Oh I dunno,

they hate our western lifesyle?

they hate our power?

they hate our freedom?

they hate our beliefs?

they hate Israel and Israel is our ally?

take yer pick.
Ah dear. brainwashed son. brainwashed.

Yes, the ol' brainwashed response. Please post any redeeming qualities of the UN. I find none.

2006-09-30 22:55:39

#375

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6783|Global Command

Well, the U.N. gives a creditable voice to those who hate America.
After all, where else can a guy like Chavez go to a country not his own and call the host countries president the devil.
He's creditable see, he wears a suit.

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