w00t w00tVilham wrote:
KNIFE FIGHT!!!!!!chuuby wrote:
lets just remove all the kits. then everyone would be happy.
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Todd_Angelo wrote:
Vaguely is right I didn't actually, what I asked was, based on your level of vehicle use "why would you think someone should give your opinion on something to do with infantry play as much weight as you think it should have?"
Mmmm. Peace on this point there, we can let this point rest then. Now. [/nicebear]Todd_Angelo wrote:
Ah, no actually I wasn't although I can see how it might have read. I was just going for an example of a specialist player where there wouldn't be any point in him going in certain maps.
First thing I would like to point out: Despite all the other people disagreeing with you. Have you by any chance noticed the number of people AGREEING? Or are we going to have to resort to childish means such as going through post by post or take a poll on it (again, like all the 'Which is the most useless class threads').Todd_Angelo wrote:
Again you're letting your bias cloud your reasoning. The topic had already stopped being about competitive play only before the end of page 1; go check if you don't believe me. I didn't post until page 4! The fact that you're continuing to argue points with just me, despite all the other people disagreeing with you and posting contrary info clearly shows your bias.polarbearz wrote:
Well, YOU brought the topic over to public-server play.
That aside, no, I'm not letting my bias cloud my reasoning. Yes, I do have a slight intolerance for snipers in public servers, but I'm answering all your questions/statements based PURELY from a competitive point of view, a view that I personally feel, renders the sniper class utterly and completely useless.
Another VAGUE rememberance (I'm too fucking lazy to read back previous posts) is of you telling me 'blah blah blah would require a punch to the face etc' and claims that my form of civility was not civilised at all and stuff. But what you FAILED to see was that, it was obviously a short argument between me and another poster, and if you had left that apology alone, we wouldn't have been arguing over this totally off-topic point altogether.Todd_Angelo wrote:
In all seriousness, anyone who has stooped to veiled threats of physical violence can't play the maturity card and expect to be taken seriously. But anyway, the reason I answered that point in that way is I know something you don't, but it's not something I can post as I'm not sure if it was shared in confidence. Perhaps if he's not busy and gets wind of this thread he'll post but otherwise I'll have to leave it at hehe.
23% = Almost 1/4 time. Or giving you the benfit of the doubt, 1/5. In a game that has 20++ maps? Yes. Whore. And you don't ever have a pertinent reason At least for me, I avoid karkand like the plague, along with other city maps i.e. Mashtuur. But unlike you (having a WHOLE range of servers to choose from), I only have TWO, yes, T.W.O. servers to play on under 100+ ping. During the whole 1.3 bullshit era, where the servers kept crashing, karkand would be the first map. So I had little choice but to grit my teeth and play that stupid map just to be able to go onto the other maps.Todd_Angelo wrote:
less than 23% is a whore in what universe?
Only one. The fact that you insist snipers = useful in competitive play.Todd_Angelo wrote:
So, about competitive play/players, any problems with the premise in what I posted?
Well. In excess of 80. Kilograms. When I was still in my prime (that is, still a national team rugby forward), 100 kilos, 4 sets of 7. 1 rep max of 145+.Todd_Angelo wrote:
What is 'quite a bit' in your neck of the woods?
Mmmpfft. Unless you're 6+++ feet tall, if you're any heavier than what I can bench you're a fat fuck Because anything with bigger/heavier bones than you is a dinosaur.Todd_Angelo wrote:
And no, I'm not actually fat. I have a heavy skeleton (seriously).
Mmmmm wait. you got shock paddled. He's got a screenie to show it.sharpshot19 wrote:
hmmm the one time i play sniper that game, i dont throw a clay down and i get shock paddled and you take a SS great! good for you i hope you feel special....now did you get any screen shots when [DAWGS] was running that server for 5 hours with out a loss....and back to back to back cap outs of you guys? of course not cuz you left after you started to get owned
as far as the "i keep my promises" wtf is that? any noob can sneak up on a sniper to stupid (and i was) to cover their ass with a clay when on a building....how manytimes did you get me on the ground? when i wasnt a sniper
All you have = your bullshit about you running with your [DAWGS], etc = hot air. You got owned. Shut the fuck up and bite the bullet dumbshit. He's got proof, all you've got is shooting off your big mouth.
Yes, did you?polarbearz wrote:
First thing I would like to point out: Despite all the other people disagreeing with you. Have you by any chance noticed the number of people AGREEING?Todd_Angelo wrote:
Again you're letting your bias cloud your reasoning. The topic had already stopped being about competitive play only before the end of page 1; go check if you don't believe me. I didn't post until page 4! The fact that you're continuing to argue points with just me, despite all the other people disagreeing with you and posting contrary info clearly shows your bias.polarbearz wrote:
Well, YOU brought the topic over to public-server play.
Actually in formal debate that's not considered 'childish', since it's exactly the tendency to gloss over prior mis-statements and such that certain types seem to favour, for obvious reasons.polarbearz wrote:
Or are we going to have to resort to childish means such as going through post by post or take a poll on it (again, like all the 'Which is the most useless class threads').
And yet we've seen again that you're incapable of acknowledging something in my favour, something you said straight out you find impressive in another player, something so vital to the game that you stated Because BF2 = Flags. Nothing else.polarbearz wrote:
That aside, no, I'm not letting my bias cloud my reasoning.
That's pretty weak.
Let's do a quick summary, the vocal anti-me camp in this thread v. me on this point; flag points/min for recent play:
polarbearz, 0.15
towelly, 0.17
STrYYKer, 0.21
.:ronin:._|_Patton, 0.21
Todd_Angelo, 0.26
Can I get an owned anyone?
Again, it is vague because that's not what I said and not what I implied.polarbearz wrote:
Another VAGUE rememberance (I'm too fucking lazy to read back previous posts) is of you telling me 'blah blah blah would require a punch to the face etc' and claims that my form of civility was not civilised at all and stuff.Todd_Angelo wrote:
In all seriousness, anyone who has stooped to veiled threats of physical violence can't play the maturity card and expect to be taken seriously. But anyway, the reason I answered that point in that way is I know something you don't, but it's not something I can post as I'm not sure if it was shared in confidence. Perhaps if he's not busy and gets wind of this thread he'll post but otherwise I'll have to leave it at hehe.
Not about that (which I'm not insisting about incidentally) I meant about the clan play on unranked servers = no impact on stats. Clan players = much better than average. So clan players should then have mega stats. Yes/no?polarbearz wrote:
Only one. The fact that you insist snipers = useful in competitive play.Todd_Angelo wrote:
So, about competitive play/players, any problems with the premise in what I posted?
Okay, if you could legitimately bench 145kg I have to say officially impressed (nearly 320lbs you guys still stuck on Imperial).polarbearz wrote:
Well. In excess of 80. Kilograms. When I was still in my prime (that is, still a national team rugby forward), 100 kilos, 4 sets of 7. 1 rep max of 145+.Todd_Angelo wrote:
What is 'quite a bit' in your neck of the woods?
But if we're bragging about prowess then sorry, it has to be about present-day ability, not the ol' glory days
LOLpolarbearz wrote:
Mmmpfft. Unless you're 6+++ feet tall, if you're any heavier than what I can bench you're a fat fuck Because anything with bigger/heavier bones than you is a dinosaur.Todd_Angelo wrote:
And no, I'm not actually fat. I have a heavy skeleton (seriously).
just let it die, instead of beating the poor horse.
How did you come up with that ratio?
What is mine BTW?
What is mine BTW?
Statpadder.com gives a summary of flag points (caps/assists/defends). If the player is in the database already they have archived data that can be used to assess play from then to now:usmarine2005 wrote:
How did you come up with that ratio?
As you can see it summarises vehicle and infantry kill rate and KDR separately. Combine the two features and that's how I could say this.The results are basically the same as if you were to create a new player account, but with more experience to do well.
You can also use it to to state quite confidently that James{CAN} sucks on the ground and has some balls to consistently slag snipers off for being useless to the team when it's pretty clear that even an average Joe can do better... lots better. Pretty easy to see why he wouldn't accept a challenge related to infantry play LOL
0.17usmarine2005 wrote:
What is mine BTW?
I fail.
/Wrists.
Thank you.
/Wrists.
Thank you.
I hope a lot of people keep FEELing (I thought we were talking fatcs here btw but nvm) the way you are bearz, so I can keep hammering them during pcw's and matches with my .308's.polarbearz wrote:
That aside, no, I'm not letting my bias cloud my reasoning. Yes, I do have a slight intolerance for snipers in public servers, but I'm answering all your questions/statements based PURELY from a competitive point of view, a view that I personally feel, renders the sniper class utterly and completely useless.
Only one. The fact that you insist snipers = useful in competitive play.
Lol Jemme you might have been able to snipe once or twice in matches back in VETS before you got kicked out, but a real clan has no need for one.
Despite my general dislike for you, that's a nice argument and I'll respect that.Todd_Angelo wrote:
That's pretty weak.
Let's do a quick summary, the vocal anti-me camp in this thread v. me on this point; flag points/min for recent play:
polarbearz, 0.15
towelly, 0.17
STrYYKer, 0.21
.:ronin:._|_Patton, 0.21
Todd_Angelo, 0.26
Can I get an owned anyone?
Although it is hard for bearz to cap flags while he's in a jet.
Sarge, you might wanna stick with what you know, which isnt that much alltogether.
And a real clan? If I remember correctly you were beggin to get in that clan and havent achieved anything since.
Its allways easier to kick out at people who arent here to post, so why dont you take it up with Vets in their forum.
So lol back at you noob
And a real clan? If I remember correctly you were beggin to get in that clan and havent achieved anything since.
Its allways easier to kick out at people who arent here to post, so why dont you take it up with Vets in their forum.
So lol back at you noob
Those numbers do not reflect the effiency of snipers capping flags, but how much a player decides to cap them.
Oh, then I take back some of my congratulations from Todd, but not all of them.SargeV1.4 wrote:
Those numbers do not reflect the effiency of snipers capping flags, but how much a player decides to cap them.
Begging to get in VETS? I got invited by Nipper, I never even asked And if you meant begging to get in uQ.bf2/NoFear/Rock, I got invited to that too.Jemme101 wrote:
Sarge, you might wanna stick with what you know, which isnt that much alltogether.
And a real clan? If I remember correctly you were beggin to get in that clan and havent achieved anything since.
Its allways easier to kick out at people who arent here to post, so why dont you take it up with Vets in their forum.
So lol back at you noob
Haven't achieved anything since?
http://www.clanbase.com/claninfo.php?cid=1097201
LMFAO
sure man, being in one of the #1 clans in BF2, getting sponsored to play. I've achieved nothing
so, back at ya
btw if was fun on TS after you left.
Last edited by SargeV1.4 (2006-09-17 02:23:20)
wow.. you beat my by .05Todd_Angelo wrote:
That's pretty weak.
Let's do a quick summary, the vocal anti-me camp in this thread v. me on this point; flag points/min for recent play:
polarbearz, 0.15
towelly, 0.17
STrYYKer, 0.21
.:ronin:._|_Patton, 0.21
Todd_Angelo, 0.26
Can I get an owned anyone?
congradufuckinglations.
i WOULD capture more flags, but i average 20 minutes a day, on knife pistol servers.
thats a flag to time ratio
i have almost 1000 hours, and i used to never capture flags, because i was a noob.
You are sure a frustrated youngman to still be refering to stuff thats so way back I cannt even remember who you were exactly or what it was all about. But gg to that clan took you in and if you want to vent your anger or whatever in future you still have the option of using a PM here. Which I offcourse will ignore with full pleasure as any future posts you make concerning yesterdays. What is it, the fourth time you brought this up?SargeV1.4 wrote:
Begging to get in VETS? I got invited by Nipper, I never even asked And if you meant begging to get in uQ.bf2/NoFear/Rock, I got invited to that too.Jemme101 wrote:
Sarge, you might wanna stick with what you know, which isnt that much alltogether.
And a real clan? If I remember correctly you were beggin to get in that clan and havent achieved anything since.
Its allways easier to kick out at people who arent here to post, so why dont you take it up with Vets in their forum.
So lol back at you noob
Haven't achieved anything since?
http://www.clanbase.com/claninfo.php?cid=1097201
LMFAO
sure man, being in one of the #1 clans in BF2, getting sponsored to play. I've achieved nothing
so, back at ya
btw if was fun on TS after you left.
Geez go practice some with your leet clan
Keep on switching to that pistol Jemme
I smell BULLSHIT!
You are not the first to notice it after Sarge has entered a threadDefiance wrote:
I smell BULLSHIT!
All depends on the type of match.
In typical 8v8 conquest style matches, you'll typically see entire teams go anti tank because the SMGs have decent DPS now, and your biggest threat is always a good armor player. But if you keep the enemy armor from being useful by filling it with 4 Eryx shots every time it shows up, you neutralize that. A sniper can't do a damn thing against a tank.
HOWEVER, in matches that are infantry only, you'll see a sniper or two. Depending on the map, you may even see a team full of snipers because it provides area denial with the claymores and controlling ticket bleed is extremely important especially in small map situations.
In typical 8v8 conquest style matches, you'll typically see entire teams go anti tank because the SMGs have decent DPS now, and your biggest threat is always a good armor player. But if you keep the enemy armor from being useful by filling it with 4 Eryx shots every time it shows up, you neutralize that. A sniper can't do a damn thing against a tank.
HOWEVER, in matches that are infantry only, you'll see a sniper or two. Depending on the map, you may even see a team full of snipers because it provides area denial with the claymores and controlling ticket bleed is extremely important especially in small map situations.
*sigh*
Why oh why do those discussions always end up in a meaningless mud-throwing contest?
I should tempban every single idiot here. But I happen to have a day job too
R
Why oh why do those discussions always end up in a meaningless mud-throwing contest?
I should tempban every single idiot here. But I happen to have a day job too
R
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