no I can see two Polish dudes having a chat and the Latvians down at 30 seem to be having a bit of a knees up, but no marauding oppressors on the streets, phew
No they haven't.jonsimon wrote:
At this point in time, our government has addressed and denied all previously stated reasons for entering Iraq.
How old are you? And did you ever serve in the military?Ikarti wrote:
Hey, US soldiers are doing a pretty good job at rape as it is.usmarine2005 wrote:
So if your Wife / Mom were in Iraq a few years ago, and got caught outside without covering their face. Then they got thrown in jail and rape rooms without a trial, you would just say "Hey, it is thier country, do what you want."CameronPoe wrote:
Saddam, an Iraqi, was murdering and abusing on his own turf. Each nation must take it upon themselves to liberate themselves, not wait about for some supposedly benevolent FOREIGN overseer. The debacle we see in Iraq today is the result of attempting to 'bring peace and freedom' to an Iraq that was not ready for such responsibilities. I'm for self-determination and winning your freedom and making a country of your own choosing. That is obviously at right angles to your viewpoint.
Oh please. That's not even a relevent issue when discussing our country's reasoning for going to war in Iraq. Talk about a tired out talking point...usmarine2005 wrote:
So if your Wife / Mom were in Iraq a few years ago, and got caught outside without covering their face. Then they got thrown in jail and rape rooms without a trial, you would just say "Hey, it is thier country, do what you want."CameronPoe wrote:
Saddam, an Iraqi, was murdering and abusing on his own turf. Each nation must take it upon themselves to liberate themselves, not wait about for some supposedly benevolent FOREIGN overseer. The debacle we see in Iraq today is the result of attempting to 'bring peace and freedom' to an Iraq that was not ready for such responsibilities. I'm for self-determination and winning your freedom and making a country of your own choosing. That is obviously at right angles to your viewpoint.usmarine2005 wrote:
And Saddam didn't oppress people? Which kind of oppression are you for?
There are more greivous conditions in other countries that don't have oil that are ignored...take for example the entire continent of Africa... That shithole is full of reasons to invade, in many cases because of things much worse than rape rooms without due process.
You know damn well that if Saddam alone was the only real reason, then a wimpy ass invasion with 150k soldiers (about 600k soldiers less than the gulf war just to expel Iraq from Kuwait) in a country that was supposed to have mobile biological weapons labs, WMDs, 1 million man army -- would not have done it. Undercover assasins would have more than sufficed. No, the reasons for going have all been put to rest as false, and the real reasons are obvious as billions of our tax dollars go to pay special interests of the president and his cabinet.
Irrelevant and I don't have the desire to rape and murder people. It's not like that guy raped that girl and then him and his friends set her and her family on fire.usmarine2005 wrote:
How old are you? And did you ever serve in the military?Ikarti wrote:
Hey, US soldiers are doing a pretty good job at rape as it is.usmarine2005 wrote:
So if your Wife / Mom were in Iraq a few years ago, and got caught outside without covering their face. Then they got thrown in jail and rape rooms without a trial, you would just say "Hey, it is thier country, do what you want."
It isn't irrelevent to me. I just wanted to know where you are coming from and what experience you may have. You sound like a little rich twat who lives in "blue" Delaware, am I wrong?Ikarti wrote:
Irrelevant and I don't have the desire to rape and murder people. It's not like that guy raped that girl and then him and his friends set her and her family on fire.usmarine2005 wrote:
How old are you? And did you ever serve in the military?Ikarti wrote:
Hey, US soldiers are doing a pretty good job at rape as it is.
I just read through that whole congressional declaration you posted and yes, every reason for going has been refuted. Or can you name one that hasn't?M1-Lightning wrote:
No they haven't.jonsimon wrote:
At this point in time, our government has addressed and denied all previously stated reasons for entering Iraq.
Considering 95% of the people in this country are retards i'd say thats an awesome percentage.Ikarti wrote:
I saw this one cartoon once I really enjoyed. It said "75% of troops believe they're in Iraq because Saddam did 9/11. This leads me to believe that 75% of troops are complete idiots/"
Your not entitled to your opinion now Poe? i think that wot he is tryin to say.captain_itchy_pants wrote:
Ireland couldnt have had it's freedom without American influence or American money. So why is that a bad thing for Iraq? Ireland is doing fantastically well now with American companies leading the way and spending many dollars on the infrastructure there. Cant they employ that in Iraq?
usmarine2005, what difference does it make ? having served in the military does not make u all knowing.
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"our government has addressed and denied" is not the same as "refuted".IRONCHEF wrote:
I just read through that whole congressional declaration you posted and yes, every reason for going has been refuted. Or can you name one that hasn't?M1-Lightning wrote:
No they haven't.jonsimon wrote:
At this point in time, our government has addressed and denied all previously stated reasons for entering Iraq.
Yep, I've served in the military, but I'm the liberal one here siding with Poe. I don't even wear birkenstocks. I don't even like granola! So no, it doesn't matter who you are or where you've served when opining about such political things.
EDIT: Actually fuck what I wrote. I use $20s as toilet paper. I have a country club membership and I play squash and polo. I lock my car doors when I see black people. Friends was an entertaining show to me. All my friends are also rich and white. Daddy made sure I would never have to join the military.
What a fucktard you are USmarine, yet I'm not too surprised.
What a fucktard you are USmarine, yet I'm not too surprised.
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Considering that came form a cartoon I'd say there's at least one idiot here.PRiMACORD wrote:
Considering 95% of the people in this country are retards i'd say thats an awesome percentage.Ikarti wrote:
I saw this one cartoon once I really enjoyed. It said "75% of troops believe they're in Iraq because Saddam did 9/11. This leads me to believe that 75% of troops are complete idiots/"
Can you fuckers read? I said I just wanted to know where he was coming from and what experiences he has. Becuase if he is some kid, then I will just skip over his posts from now on.mafia996630 wrote:
Your not entitled to your opinion now Poe? i think that wot he is tryin to say.captain_itchy_pants wrote:
Ireland couldnt have had it's freedom without American influence or American money. So why is that a bad thing for Iraq? Ireland is doing fantastically well now with American companies leading the way and spending many dollars on the infrastructure there. Cant they employ that in Iraq?
usmarine2005, what difference does it make ? having served in the military does not make u all knowing.
Oh, my bad. But can you name something that wasn't yet denied by our government? Also, what counts as "our government?" Does that include joint cheifs? Governement workers fired for their dissent?M1-Lightning wrote:
"our government has addressed and denied" is not the same as "refuted".IRONCHEF wrote:
I just read through that whole congressional declaration you posted and yes, every reason for going has been refuted. Or can you name one that hasn't?M1-Lightning wrote:
No they haven't.
I never hear you crying about all the innocent people Saddam killed, or how many innocent people other dictators kill. You just see one person make a mistake and run with it. How many people get raped in this country everyday? Why dont I hear anything form you about that?Ikarti wrote:
As opposed to some degenerate hick from a red state? Yes you are wrong. Christ, you bring state colors in and everything. No I'm not rich, yes I live in Delaware, and no, I don't get off on killing innocent people, which you may or may not do. You've got the whole indoctrination of the military can do no wrong. Yeah right. Continue living in your denial.usmarine2005 wrote:
It isn't irrelevent to me. I just wanted to know where you are coming from and what experience you may have. You sound like a little rich twat who lives in "blue" Delaware, am I wrong?Ikarti wrote:
Irrelevant and I don't have the desire to rape and murder people. It's not like that guy raped that girl and then him and his friends set her and her family on fire.
Gee, thanks for asking for more of us who get off our asses and protect your freedoms to die. You really don't have a fucking clue do you. Who do you think would protect you during this "pound our country" session? Me and the rest of the people that actually do something to protect this country. Another dumb ass that just doesn't get it.IRONCHEF wrote:
I wish other countries would pound our country into humility for once so we could again focus on our own country and it's people. Maybe Bush can accomplish this before he's gone. I'd be happy to support a regime change in this country.
I don't like your generalization. I'm going to liberate your mind from your head because it offends me. Or is that only right in some circumstances?usmarine2005 wrote:
You sound like a little rich twat who lives in "blue" Delaware, am I wrong?
Here we go again, you say shit to me but yet he just generalized me with a rapist soldier, and you dont say shit.SysTray wrote:
I don't like your generalization. I'm going to liberate your mind from your head because it offends me. Or is that only right in some circumstances?usmarine2005 wrote:
You sound like a little rich twat who lives in "blue" Delaware, am I wrong?
Because you wouldn't give a damn anyway. The military is a great outlet for people who under normal circumstances would rape and kill here. Saddam was not our business.usmarine2005 wrote:
I never hear you crying about all the innocent people Saddam killed, or how many innocent people other dictators kill. You just see one person make a mistake and run with it. How many people get raped in this country everyday? Why dont I hear anything form you about that?Ikarti wrote:
As opposed to some degenerate hick from a red state? Yes you are wrong. Christ, you bring state colors in and everything. No I'm not rich, yes I live in Delaware, and no, I don't get off on killing innocent people, which you may or may not do. You've got the whole indoctrination of the military can do no wrong. Yeah right. Continue living in your denial.usmarine2005 wrote:
It isn't irrelevent to me. I just wanted to know where you are coming from and what experience you may have. You sound like a little rich twat who lives in "blue" Delaware, am I wrong?
And as for getting on the case of "RICH BLUE STATERS," why don't you take a look at the rich man from a red state who doesn't give a damn about poor people, red or blue. He's in charge now. And he has placed his personal interests above those of the country.
Yes they have. Reasons given and circulated: WMDs, links to al-queda, links to 911. Bush has stated there are no links to 911. Everyone has stated there are no WMDs besides the ones we gave Saddam. And now the senate has declared there were no links to al-queda.M1-Lightning wrote:
No they haven't.jonsimon wrote:
At this point in time, our government has addressed and denied all previously stated reasons for entering Iraq.
"Our government" would be 51% of the Congress, the president and 5 members of the Supreme court. The DNC can pay any retired military general to go on the news and lie to the American people.IRONCHEF wrote:
Oh, my bad. But can you name something that wasn't yet denied by our government? Also, what counts as "our government?" Does that include joint cheifs? Governement workers fired for their dissent?M1-Lightning wrote:
"our government has addressed and denied" is not the same as "refuted".IRONCHEF wrote:
I just read through that whole congressional declaration you posted and yes, every reason for going has been refuted. Or can you name one that hasn't?
WTF is wrong wth u , this has already been answered. go back to page two.usmarine2005 wrote:
I never hear you crying about all the innocent people Saddam killed, or how many innocent people other dictators kill. You just see one person make a mistake and run with it. How many people get raped in this country everyday? Why dont I hear anything form you about that?Ikarti wrote:
As opposed to some degenerate hick from a red state? Yes you are wrong. Christ, you bring state colors in and everything. No I'm not rich, yes I live in Delaware, and no, I don't get off on killing innocent people, which you may or may not do. You've got the whole indoctrination of the military can do no wrong. Yeah right. Continue living in your denial.usmarine2005 wrote:
It isn't irrelevent to me. I just wanted to know where you are coming from and what experience you may have. You sound like a little rich twat who lives in "blue" Delaware, am I wrong?
TO QUOTE CP:
"Saddam, an Iraqi, was murdering and abusing on his own turf. Each nation must take it upon themselves to liberate themselves, not wait about for some supposedly benevolent FOREIGN overseer. The debacle we see in Iraq today is the result of attempting to 'bring peace and freedom' to an Iraq that was not ready for such responsibilities. I'm for self-determination and winning your freedom and making a country of your own choosing. That is obviously at right angles to your viewpoint."
Welp, there it is. Thank You. I will not be reading or responding to any of your posts anymore. Thank you againIkarti wrote:
Because you wouldn't give a damn anyway. The military is a great outlet for people who under normal circumstances would rape and kill here. .
I didn't say anything to him because his remark didn't offend me, only yours did. (It only offended you.) You want me to go and beat the shit out of him because he said something to you? What have you done for me? What are you going to do in return? I have better things I can be doing in and around my house than go to his and say "Stop messing with him, ok?".usmarine2005 wrote:
Here we go again, you say shit to me but yet he just generalized me with a rapist soldier, and you dont say shit.SysTray wrote:
I don't like your generalization. I'm going to liberate your mind from your head because it offends me. Or is that only right in some circumstances?usmarine2005 wrote:
You sound like a little rich twat who lives in "blue" Delaware, am I wrong?