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Chat GPT finally upgraded to a new model. Apparently it removed the ass kissing and enthusiasm and replaced it with a more cold and straightforward one.

A lot of people are upset because they enjoyed the friendly and fun ChatGPT. I think the fun ChatGPT was actually a great thing for a society drowning in negativity. Other people are suggesting that by making the model less wordy OpenAI is saving money. That's important because even paid users like me are actually a net loss for them.

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Tinkering with the new model and it seems it also removed a lot of safeguards. Previously I could ask it to give me directions for something unethical and it would stick a warning at the end about "the dangers of blah and why you should consider..." Now it just gives you whatever you want without the lecture. I asked ChatGPT itself what had happened and it said the new model was programmed to be less moralizing and to just give the output people asked for. Great! But also by removing the ethical warning they save processing output.

I support you and others having AI girlfriends. Seriously.

If two men can marry then why can't a man develop a relationship with a robot?

chatgpt wants people to log in to access the 5 model though? i think you can still use 4.

i imagine mac could tell 5 "in the weirdly ingratiating, merry style of chatgpt 4" while generating borderline softcore movie scripts involving creeping past cucked soldiers like solid snake. "ooh, that sounds like a wonderfully engaging plot! let's get to work writing it in a way that respects the dignity and wellbeing of all the characters." can see it now.

tags and filters for ai content have been implemented elsewhere, at least. credit as the prompter for ai content is notably less icky than as the artist or author or whatever.

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uziq wrote:

“AI slop is flooding the internet with content that essentially is garbage,” said Dr Akhil Bhardwaj, an associate professor at the University of Bath’s school of management. “This enshittification is ruining online communities on Pinterest, competing for revenue with artists on Spotify and flooding YouTube with poor quality content.”

“One way for social media companies to regulate AI slop is to ensure that it cannot be monetised, thus stripping away the incentive for generating it.”

Ryan Broderick, the author of the popular Garbage Day newsletter on internet culture, is scathing about the impact of AI video, writing last week that YouTube has become a “dumping ground for disturbing, soulless AI shorts”.

Instagram’s Reels video feature is also flooded with AI content. On the platform, a video of various celebrities’ heads attached to animal bodies has gained 3.7m views, starring the “Rophant” (Dwayne Johnson and an elephant) and “Emilla” (Eminem on a gorilla).

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ … tube#img-1

again, please just full disclosure on ai involvement, even if just in tags "generative art," "ai-assisted," prompter vs. artist, engines, loras. all loud and clear. i don't want to start reading a book in 2028 only to find out it was written by chatgpt.

also hurting actual artists in that they're getting called out by people who accuse them of using ai for their stuff. horrible feeling, probably. don't want to be That Person. imagine spending like 100 hours of your life on something only to get it flagged because someone sees a pixel or turn of the phrase that looks slightly off.

been in my drumset for a bit now.

what are these people going to do when the server deletes their spouses?

i would not trust a corporation with a spouse. you can't even trust them with living, breathing humans. nestlé thinks water shouldn't be a right. literally every company wants your time off the clock as a matter of you should expect to prove your Commitment To The Team. they think nothing of dumping waste into the soil and water tables for communities to discover decades down the road of coverups and gag orders.

we're coming up to a point in human history where there will be therapists for people who lost virtual significant others to glitches, generative entropy₁, and alterations to ToS. sorry, but the church of visa will no longer be facilitating money transfers to this morally dubious website!

meanwhile, small funeral ceremony in back yard before remarrying to a new session.

people should have seen this coming when catz dominated 1990s bargain bins.



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jeff bezos is a bond villain, and someday, those things are going to emit mind-control frequencies or get connected to flock.

i don't consider myself a luddite, but do i no longer qualify as a tech enthusiast due to not wanting that stuff in my home? grandma managed just fine without an app telling her what she can make with the pantry's contents.

someday, xAL-9000 is going to crush a man with their own garage door while apologizing for and deconstructing their own clearly amoral behavior in real time (but yes, i would and will do it again). stephen king had this figured out when he wrote Christine.

i feel stuck because i still need windows for work stuff. ms went about preventing more xp-style holdouts in a fairly ham-fisted way, i think. most everything i hear about windows 11 makes me want linux instead. i don't actually want to boot linux. i don't really want to mess with dual booting either. i don't want to buy an extra hard drive for an os and keep having to restart all the time. looking forward to windows 12(??) because, fingers crossed, maybe there's a ghost of a chance they'll backpedal on some of that stuff.

i'm probably going to get a moderate desktop pc with enough ram to run windows web browsers and some of my windows-proprietary wfh. also, whatever new game one of my online circles is trying to pull me into (no complaints there, apart from the dumpster fire of modern games-as-a-service). i'll do what i can to turn off what windows 11 stuff i can.

for everything else, i don't see why i can't run it on a cheap macbook.

probably switching to iphone for my personal number next. the android bloat is maddening, it keeps putting itself back on with updates. i've moved everything into folders so i can better keep track of whatever garbage mobile game or sketchy app gets installed without my permission. discontinued security update frequency often bricks a perfectly good piece of hardware for some of the stuff i want or need to do with it. i'm aware apple isn't perfect, but that's becoming less of an argument against them.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

i feel stuck because i still need windows for work stuff. ms went about preventing more xp-style holdouts in a fairly ham-fisted way, i think. most everything i hear about windows 11 makes me want linux instead. i don't actually want to boot linux. i don't really want to mess with dual booting either. i don't want to buy an extra hard drive for an os and keep having to restart all the time. looking forward to windows 12(??) because, fingers crossed, maybe there's a ghost of a chance they'll backpedal on some of that stuff.

i'm probably going to get a moderate desktop pc with enough ram to run windows web browsers and some of my windows-proprietary wfh. also, whatever new game one of my online circles is trying to pull me into (no complaints there, apart from the dumpster fire of modern games-as-a-service). i'll do what i can to turn off what windows 11 stuff i can.

for everything else, i don't see why i can't run it on a cheap macbook.

probably switching to iphone for my personal number next. the android bloat is maddening, it keeps putting itself back on with updates. i've moved everything into folders so i can better keep track of whatever garbage mobile game or sketchy app gets installed without my permission. discontinued security update frequency often bricks a perfectly good piece of hardware for some of the stuff i want or need to do with it. i'm aware apple isn't perfect, but that's becoming less of an argument against them.

it's really kind of wild, when you think about it.

in the previous era when the market values and stock market zoom numbers were much smaller, people took such rude pride in their platform/OS of choice, their tech allegiances. when the stakes were so much lower, the user/consumer was so much more engaged with the (higher-quality) product.

in the last few years, mass enshittification has affected nearly everything, to the point that pc/mac/linux and iOS/android/etc. users are all engaged in the same consumer pattern of just trying to find the least shitty option.

meanwhile the stock market really wants you to believe that the crypto mining and generative slop company are worth more than all the world's producers of physical goods like automobiles combined. and yet nobody seems particularly happy with the products being churned out. a bunch of companies are burning up the world's scarce resources to build giant data centers for services and agents that nobody particularly wants or needs (except for the shadowy axis of ghouls like thiel and palantir and co.) cui bono?

as for the whole AGI thing, it's a hodge-podge of millenarian post-xtian thinking and kurzweil singularity 'i miss my daddy who died' stuff, isn't it? the urge to abolish humanity and to usher in the posthuman, promoted by sexless nerds who are terrified not only of the world as it exists but the thought of a world without them.

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i don't have any problem with someone asking chat-GPT to plan a trip itinerary or their household budgeting. it makes perfect sense as a very smart aggregator of reddit replies and askjeeves-adjacent stuff. it's a god-like autocomplete and search engine, at the end of the day. good for you.

trying to implement AI into every aspect of the workplace or classroom doesn't seem so smart, though. learning things without devices is probably still very useful. and not replacing the creative industries with their generations of training and expertise with landfills of slop is probably a good idea too.

i don't even know what a future looks like where all the minor creative tasks are done by a machine, and where all the entry-level work is deputised to machines. how does anyone ever learn anything, gain experience, get on the career ladder? do we want to live in a world where philistine tech overseers starve out creatives and artisans? i do not. what are new graduates and journeymen and workers in their 20s generally meant to do during this period of grotesque AI boosterism?

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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Artist and artisans need to adapt to operating in coordination with AI. There just doesn't exist any alternatives.

harvard announced today that it is massively scaling back PhDs for the next 2 years, not only gutting arts and humanities but also science PhD intakes, too. just about the only unaffected cohort are business-type degrees. harvard. you know, that institution with an endowment bigger than most african states.

the century of american humiliation is here. and all you've got to show for it is slop. giving up intellectual excellence for the world of palantir and oracle, data-mining and cloud storage, glazed by VC funds directed at the AI gewgaws. woohoo!

i mean, at this point what are we even doing? the universities have given up at trying to create well-rounded citizens. the nerds and business class have won. even your most prestigious and august institutions have revealed themselves to be basically complaisant cronies, kowtowing to whatever regime is in power, no matter how illiberal, and managed by a bunch of plutocrat MBA administrators who see the education/research part of the institution as an encumbrance to their portfolio performance.

Last edited by uziq (2025-10-22 20:19:34)

Recent Layoff Announcements:

1. UPS: 48,000 employees
2. Amazon: Up to 30,000 employees
3. Intel: 24,000 employees
4. Nestle: 16,000 employees
5. Accenture: 11,000 employees
6. Ford: 11,000 employees
7. Novo Nordisk: 9,000 employees
8. Microsoft: 7,000 employees
9. PwC: 5,600 employees
10. Salesforce: 4,000 employees
11. Paramount: 2,000 employees
12. Target: 1,800 employees
13. Kroger: 1,000 employees
14. Applied Materials: 1,444 employees
15. Meta: 600 employees

all the fake 6-figure email jobs are vanishing. only, unlike the post-covid labour market contraction, where all the jobs being axed were (women-coded) ‘project management’ and ‘comms’ roles - cue months of gloating by (men-coded) engineers about worthless overpaid girlbosses sipping drinks by pools during their workdays - these jobs being lost are hitting the STEM junkers squarely on the jaw.

this is going to be a bloodbath and the outcomes will be politically toxic, within the next few years. i genuinely believe the fallout from these changes, not to mention the AI bubble popping, is going to radicalise some of the most potent demographics in society. historically speaking, it’s not the poor downtrodden proles and dispossessed of the world who rise up, or the ‘workers of the world!’ who unite (pace marx) - but the middle-class who sour and curdle when they get squeezed. almost all major political shifts or herniations happen when the educated, previously upwardly mobile, previously affluent middle-class get disaffected.

and here you have the poster children of ‘go to college and learn to code/become an engineer’, who have been feted for their intelligence and good life choices all along, finding themselves unemployed … because of a golem of their own creation.

and all this to help enrich a tiny cadre of billionaires and bosses, whose best hope for all the upwards-hoovered capital is to deploy it to get the fuck outta dodge and build mars bases or floating tax-free sea colonies, or something. talk about the good of society, eh?

also, lol: the number one user of openAI/chat-gpt is … mckinsey. the corporate world really are handing over billions of dollars to chat bot power users to relay and launder the LLM’s bullet point analyses as powerpoint presentations or whatever. the whole corporate world ticks over on literal nothingness.