BF2S Forums Pandemic thread

A congressman from Florida got it. He may have spread it among Congress because he voted Saturday.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Thats great and all, same for culture.

In various pacific islander cultures cannibalism was the in-thing for millenia.
Should we be 'open and tolerant' to other people's cultures in this case?
When someone turns up at the airport with a suitcase bulging with human body parts and dripping blood what do we say? "Oh those New Guineans, so quaint" and wave them through?
Probably we should divert our resources from MS to treating kuru without addressing the root cause, like good multicultural citizens.

New Guineans following ritualistic practices in the near history is not an isolated thing. In proto-civilizations and even through antiquity your beloved white ancestors were doing the same under the same pretenses.

From my understanding, cannibalism as food sustenance (as opposed to ritualistic activities related to the dead of war) was not widely practiced in pacific islander cultures (or any others), let alone for millenia, but I haven't read up much on it since a few anthropology courses in college, so I may be out of date.

Cannibalism isn't even a thing anymore, except in extremely isolated cases. Are you really asking such a stupid question?

Should we be open and tolerant to blood letting? Hmm, let's spend the next 20 pages indulging in your nonsensicals.

anyway.

We don't do that, or drink the blood of the vanquished, any more.

The Chinese are still in the dark ages. We should fence them off until they evolve.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Probably they'll never share any data so no-one will ever get to the truth. Like Chernobyl it may take decades and a change of government to get the full truth.
Fuck them frankly.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr … vice-wrong

editor in chief of the lancet commends china, questions our politicians.

gee, balanced thought is difficult !

every government everywhere is trying to look after themselves. witness the futility of trump and co. downplaying, denying, blaming china/europe, etc.

yep, no disagreements with you that the government's handling of the outbreak was a disaster in the first month. but they listened to the scientists, looked at the data.

that's more than the UK/US are doing. it's okay to be alarmed at our treatment of it without having to be a red commie, you know.

meanwhile coronavirus has reached every single state in the US and they've only just managed to agree to make testing free. lol.

Dilbert_X wrote:

No doubt being smug will bounce back on me, however Jay's state has a similar population to my country and four times the cases.

https://reut.rs/3daq8mF

this is part of why, although i imagine NJ has 10x the population density. proximity to NYC cannot help.

Almost 9000 confirmed cases in the U.S. There's no stopping it. Expect 100,000 cases in a week.

10,000 cases when you're not even testing, may i remind you again, for the 4th time. you already have 100,000s of cases. people sick with the exact symptoms, visiting hospitals, can't get tested. what tiny fraction of the severely ill are getting test confirmations?

remember when jay was saying only 2600 cases? all of, er, two days ago?

do they not teach the concept of exponential growth in pog college or something?

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What kills me are when people exhibiting multiple symptoms, profess to have been around those who test positive, or who return from a severely affected country are deemed unqualified to be tested. I get that there are a limited number of kits, but damn.

my friend went to his local pub last night, there were only about 5 people there, only 5 people for a reason clearly -- they are all fucking irresponsible idiots. i gave him a good chewing off this morning. people breaking a quarantine only makes the short-term pain and sacrifices that the rest are making worthless. as people like patient 31 in south korea demonstrate, one person can seed it to thousands of others, not to mention killing their family members who are quarantined back at home.

i actually do worry for america. your testing and tracing has been pathetic, probably the worst in the world. the only approach that has had anything like success, such as in china, south korea and taiwan, is to test extensively and follow up all chains of contact. it's pointless trying to quarantine 330 million people whilst you're not chasing down the active spreaders. america doesn't seem to get it. the UK government's early tactic was just as hopeless; the doctors and nurses on the frontline understood it only too clearly, not having tests in busy hospitals and the like. china have shared data and clearly pointed a way here, and it has nothing to do with jay's protestations about 'people loving chinese socialism'.

'only 2,600 cases' jay says. 3 days later, 10,000. meanwhile, italy had 'only' 10,000 cases a week ago, now they have 35,000 and 500-600 people a day dying. it's only going to get worse for america, not better, as a lack of lockdown tracing means that figure goes up and up. at least italy's total measures means they can soon get over the hump from uncontrolled spreading 3-4 weeks ago. the overwhelming of their medical system will abate, even if the death figure goes up in the short term.

this virus has an asymptomatic incubation period of up to 3-4 days. people become gravely ill for 3-4 weeks, requiring life support. the total infected and total dead numbers are not a realistic grip on the situation -- especially in countries that aren't testing in the first place, where there will be an order of magnitude more cases than officially reported. it's safe to assume in terms of official figures that we are always 2-3 days of exponential growth behind new diagnoses and still waiting for the infected of 3-4 weeks ago to pull through or die.

america is in a yuuuugely bad situation. this will be the test and endnote to trump's presidency, not congressional politicking.

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