Pandemic thread

2020-05-08 07:07:46

#3001

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5597|London, England

Larssen wrote:
Have you forgotten the Chinese started frantically building hospitals and digging mass graves at breakneck speed? If there is any regime that would've supressed information about this new virus and let its people die it would have been that one. I'm quite certain the fact that it spread all over the world indicates it exceeded the expectations and danger assessments of the CCP.

Granted, this was all with incomplete information at hand, though the aformentioned points did occur. A virus being what it is, acting too late is a far, far more dangerous problem than acting too early and too carefully.

No, I haven't forgotten. I clearly remember calling them death hospitals back when the first images were shown. I can't think of a better way to kill your populace than to have them all placed on cots spaced three feet apart. Whatever sickness they didn't already have was surely going to be transmitted rapidly across the tent hospital.

You really need to stop looking to China for any sort of intellectual leadership or cues.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2020-05-08 07:09:17

#3002

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5597|London, England

Dilbert_X wrote:
Jay wrote:
The medical profession was caught off guard and unprepared. Now that the initial shock has worn off they're saying oh wait, not so bad. We're now shipping our excess ventilators to Russia even as we're reopening our economy.
I'm going to keep on posting this, and don't forget Trump was thoroughly warned early December.

Oh man, is this going to be your thing now? I understand that you don't have the ability to have many thoughts, but please, for the love of god, do not spend the next ten years posting that image. We finally got past you talking about Bush and Blair and Jews in every topic.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2020-05-08 07:13:25

#3003

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6345|eXtreme to the maX

You are unable to think for yourself, all you do is parrot whatever you last heard.

I'll stop posting that image if you stop making things up which didn't happen.

Trump was warned endlessly, the White House was warned endlessly and in detail, both sat on their hands.
America's appalling response is not the fault of the medical community.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2020-05-08 07:14:41)

Fuck Israel

2020-05-08 07:34:04

#3004

uziq: Member; +495|3691

Jay wrote:
Larssen wrote:
Have you forgotten the Chinese started frantically building hospitals and digging mass graves at breakneck speed? If there is any regime that would've supressed information about this new virus and let its people die it would have been that one. I'm quite certain the fact that it spread all over the world indicates it exceeded the expectations and danger assessments of the CCP.

Granted, this was all with incomplete information at hand, though the aformentioned points did occur. A virus being what it is, acting too late is a far, far more dangerous problem than acting too early and too carefully.
No, I haven't forgotten. I clearly remember calling them death hospitals back when the first images were shown. I can't think of a better way to kill your populace than to have them all placed on cots spaced three feet apart. Whatever sickness they didn't already have was surely going to be transmitted rapidly across the tent hospital.

You really need to stop looking to China for any sort of intellectual leadership or cues.

china isolated the sick from their families and communities. draconian measures, to be sure, and not to be imitated in the west if it can be avoided. but it worked. their numbers are down.

you’re bothered about people being isolated in hospitals but want sick people to be free to roam and wander about normal society? it’s just confusing. do you value life or not?

2020-05-08 08:07:39

#3005

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +641|3959

Nursing homes are a shame. Old people should be taken care of by their families and visiting aides. They shouldn't be put in situations where they have to make friends with strangers like 1st graders.

2020-05-08 08:24:40

#3006

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6976|Cinncinatti

What if I don't like old people

2020-05-08 08:24:50

#3007

uziq: Member; +495|3691

caring for someone with dementia or alzheimer’s is a full time job. and it is distressing to the loved ones. nobody wants to put a relative in a home.

2020-05-08 08:31:43

#3008

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +641|3959

uziq wrote:
caring for someone with dementia or alzheimer’s is a full time job. and it is distressing to the loved ones. nobody wants to put a relative in a home.

Home healthcare workers would be a more expensive but better service providing alternative.

2020-05-08 09:47:25

#3009

Larssen: Member; +99|2126

uziq wrote:
caring for someone with dementia or alzheimer’s is a full time job. and it is distressing to the loved ones. nobody wants to put a relative in a home.

Depends on the relative

2020-05-08 10:04:32

#3010

lil_droo: Member; +19|1734

i don't understand people wearing masks that only cover the mouth? is this virus not spread as easily by breathing and exhaling thru your nose? are these people just straight up mouth breathers? i went to the beach yesterday in ventura again (beach itself was nice, people were actually practicing social distancing this time and no big crowds) but the stores do not require masks out there or even seem to be limiting the amount of ppl inside. i got some fish and chips at this little seafood place and it was crowded inside, with maybe half the people wearing masks. saw a cook in the back literally not wearing anything. i got some ice cream later in the night at this other place and once again it was crowded inside and all 3 employees were essentially just wearing this chin strap thing that like only partially covered the mouth and the nose was completely exposed.

this random old couple probably like 70+ yrs old even asked me to take a pic of them in front of a sign. both were close to me and this guy even shook my hand afterward. i felt weird doing that since im sure this dude is high risk but whatever he didn't even seem phased by anything

at least in LA county/the city stores make face masks mandatory to go inside and ppl seem to take thigns more seriously

ill keep u guys updated

Last edited by lil_droo (2020-05-08 10:05:28)

gang shit

2020-05-08 10:17:10

#3011

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +641|3959

A member of Vice President Mike Pence's staff has tested positive for the coronavirus, two sources familiar tell CNN.

Pence's Friday morning flight to Iowa was delayed on the tarmac of Joint Base Andrews for about an hour, and some people deplaned, according to White House pool reports.

The person who tested positive was not on the Iowa trip, but there was concern about other people on the plane having been in contact with the positive individual, a source familiar told CNN.

it's just a matter of time before the white house gets COVIDed

2020-05-08 10:48:10

#3012

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +641|3959

We are at 14% unemployment up until April. It is definitely higher now. Trump is leading America through a second Great Depression as was warned?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/United_States_unemployment_with_incarceration_1892-2016.png

2020-05-08 11:08:19

#3013

uziq: Member; +495|3691

we’ve been talking about care home epidemics but have said nothing about the incarcerated.

america is the most carceral nation on the planet. what happens when your prison populations start fire storming with coronavirus?

2020-05-08 11:10:14

#3014

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +641|3959

uziq wrote:
we’ve been talking about care home epidemics but have said nothing about the incarcerated.

america is the most carceral nation on the planet. what happens when your prison populations start fire storming with coronavirus?

that's already happening. some states are releasing low level criminals. i think this is a mistake

2020-05-08 12:21:05

#3015

uziq: Member; +495|3691

there were mass prison riots in italy. a bunch of people died.

2020-05-08 13:20:03

#3016

uziq: Member; +495|3691

trump is back to saying that the virus will ‘just go away’ again. without a vaccine. oh dear. oh dear oh dear.

2020-05-08 13:35:28

#3017

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +641|3959

President Donald Trump confirmed Friday that Vice President Mike Pence's press secretary, Katie Miller, tested positive for the coronavirus.

Miller is now the second White House staff member known to have tested positive for the coronavirus this week, after one of Trump's personal valets tested positive on Thursday.

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2020-05-08 13:45:47

#3018

Larssen: Member; +99|2126

I expect Trump, like Bolsonaro, will inexplicably escape the coronavirus dance and survive through all of this, of course praising his own 'strong physical constitution' throughout.

2020-05-08 15:24:45

#3019

uziq: Member; +495|3691

Trump: "I feel about vaccines like I feel about tests. This is going to go away without a vaccine, it's gonna go away, and we're not going to see it again, hopefully, after a period of time. You may have some flare-ups..."

2020-05-08 15:29:09

#3020

Pochsy: Artifice of Eternity; +702|5782|Toronto

Reading a transcript of Trump's idiosyncratic speech is enough to assure me that the world order is in the process of shifting. America, it's been real, but we're chilling with other people now. We had a good run. BTW, we're getting a wall. Hear Mexico's buying.

The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families

2020-05-08 16:23:45

#3021

uziq: Member; +495|3691

diplomats and mandarins have been saying this for ages. trump is a massive loss of credibility for america on the world stage. perfect ammunition for its enemies (china, russia, even without collusion; i mean he's an idiot and the face of 'democracy'), and damaged relations with many of its former allies.

2020-05-08 16:24:35

#3022

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5597|London, England

uziq wrote:
diplomats and mandarins have been saying this for ages. trump is a massive loss of credibility for america on the world stage. perfect ammunition for its enemies (china, russia, even without collusion; i mean he's an idiot and the face of 'democracy'), and damaged relations with many of its former allies.

Said the same about Bush. It's like there's a pattern...

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2020-05-08 16:55:28

#3023

uziq: Member; +495|3691

Jay wrote:
uziq wrote:
diplomats and mandarins have been saying this for ages. trump is a massive loss of credibility for america on the world stage. perfect ammunition for its enemies (china, russia, even without collusion; i mean he's an idiot and the face of 'democracy'), and damaged relations with many of its former allies.
Said the same about Bush. It's like there's a pattern...

no, i don't recall international relations being so fraught under bush at all. bush was not the laughing stock of europe.

did liberals and the centre-left/left-wing in europe decry bush? absolutely. there was a huge anti-war movement, after all. but establishment figures? diplomats? ambassadors? i think any misgivings would have been kept strictly within discretion/embassy cables, if it did exist.

2020-05-08 17:00:05

#3024

Larssen: Member; +99|2126

Old Europe vs New Europe and the Iraq war were a pretty wild ride in diplomat land. But in comparison Trump is definitely even worse.

2020-05-08 17:00:16

#3025

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +641|3959

uziq wrote:
Jay wrote:
uziq wrote:
diplomats and mandarins have been saying this for ages. trump is a massive loss of credibility for america on the world stage. perfect ammunition for its enemies (china, russia, even without collusion; i mean he's an idiot and the face of 'democracy'), and damaged relations with many of its former allies.
Said the same about Bush. It's like there's a pattern...
no, i don't recall international relations being so fraught under bush at all. bush was not the laughing stock of europe.

did liberals and the centre-left/left-wing in europe decry bush? absolutely. there was a huge anti-war movement, after all. but establishment figures? diplomats? ambassadors? i think any misgivings would have been kept strictly within discretion/embassy cables, if it did exist.

Bush oversaw a massive NATO expansion east. He got almost all the Eastern Europeans in the alliance in exchange for their sending troops to Iraq and Afghanistan. That's why you had Polish Special Forces running around Afghanistan fighting indigenous people like they were a western European country.

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