Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

“we buy from vietnam and taiwan more than they buy from us!”
They buy US debt.

Its been a way of bootstrapping their economies but once bootstrapped maybe they don't need it any more.

Collapse of the US dollar and high inflation for Americans is going to be fun to watch.
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Dilbert_X
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

a couple responses to dilbert's aboves:

"the last 75 years have been for boomers" may come as a surprise to boomers forcibly sent to vietnam, or shot by the national guard while walking to class. an Xer should recall that the greatest generation was viewed with disdain like people view boomers today, albeit without the same internet amplification. not to overly defend a generation firmly in reagan's pocket like the other voters of the 80s, but a lot of boomers aren't exactly financially resilient today. barely in housing (if at all), still in debt, and still working with no end in sight, while people tell them they should just go out and die of exposure or something for the betterment of the tribe.
According to my rough maths the boomer generation has had about U$20Trillion more spent on them by the federal govt than they should have (to be paid off by the next generations) and benefited from being able to have about U$10trillion worth of goods on credit.

Rough maths again, the average boomer has pocketed about U$600,000 and lumbered the next generation with that debt.
So yeah, fuck you boomer.
I mean, wouldn't it be nice to get a free U$20k handout from the govt every year of your working life?

If they're 'poor' despite that advantage, or just blew it on gas-guzzling trucks and the gas to go in them, too bad for them.

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uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

“we buy from vietnam and taiwan more than they buy from us!”
They buy US debt.

Its been a way of bootstrapping their economies but once bootstrapped maybe they don't need it any more.

Collapse of the US dollar and high inflation for Americans is going to be fun to watch.
well, yes, which is why i said earlier that the current status quo has suited US monetary (not to mention foreign) policy perfectly well.

the balance of trade is off? yes, sure, but the rest of the world are buying bonds and relying on you for development loans.

the euros taking the piss with their luxury goods and automobiles has historically been a small price to pay for securing their close alliance during the cold war – when most of europe was still up for grabs by various forms of communism and socialism, if not the USSR itself – and onwards through the NATO era. the world hegemon could accept importing more BMWs than it exported escalades, c'mon. europe was a parking lot for their tanks and jets.
unnamednewbie13
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Dilbert_X wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

a couple responses to dilbert's aboves:

"the last 75 years have been for boomers" may come as a surprise to boomers forcibly sent to vietnam, or shot by the national guard while walking to class. an Xer should recall that the greatest generation was viewed with disdain like people view boomers today, albeit without the same internet amplification. not to overly defend a generation firmly in reagan's pocket like the other voters of the 80s, but a lot of boomers aren't exactly financially resilient today. barely in housing (if at all), still in debt, and still working with no end in sight, while people tell them they should just go out and die of exposure or something for the betterment of the tribe.
According to my rough maths the boomer generation has had about U$20Trillion more spent on them by the federal govt than they should have (to be paid off by the next generations) and benefited from being able to have about U$10trillion worth of goods on credit.

Rough maths again, the average boomer has pocketed about U$600,000 and lumbered the next generation with that debt.
So yeah, fuck you boomer.
I mean, wouldn't it be nice to get a free U$20k handout from the govt every year of your working life?

If they're 'poor' despite that advantage, or just blew it on gas-guzzling trucks and the gas to go in them, too bad for them.
this is probably a really lazy way of looking at it, and a little hypocritical of a man who says he only works out of sheer boredom.

the problem with "averages," is that it overlooks a certain human element. boomers are among the demographic i see pushing homeless shopping carts heaped with their stuff. boomers are still working (multiple) entry level jobs so they can afford rent. boomers are cancelling basic services, skipping doctor appointments, and turning down ambulances because it's too expensive.

you, on the other hand, are financially secure, living with your parents, and not far from being a boomer yourself. looking at it in terms of federal reserve data like that, your average is still above $1mil/household, so fuck you too? you're just mad that the boomers have you beaten out.

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ergh, this again. trump really wants a military parade for his birthday. spending millions and millions of dollars on his strong man vanity obsession is such a trump way to usher in recession.
uziq
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all those nerd companies with lord of the rings names are cartoonishly evil. and they’re helping to police the borders. neat!

https://x.com/sanktmaxtci/status/191008 … 7OKnIcMVqg
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"palantir" is an unambiguously fitting name. those things corrupted saruman.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5f/ea/1f/5fea1f0dfac1b9069214fad38ba0beb7.jpg

in partnership with mordor electronics or something. lmao

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Dilbert_X
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

this is probably a really lazy way of looking at it, and a little hypocritical of a man who says he only works out of sheer boredom.

the problem with "averages," is that it overlooks a certain human element. boomers are among the demographic i see pushing homeless shopping carts heaped with their stuff. boomers are still working (multiple) entry level jobs so they can afford rent. boomers are cancelling basic services, skipping doctor appointments, and turning down ambulances because it's too expensive.

you, on the other hand, are financially secure, living with your parents, and not far from being a boomer yourself. looking at it in terms of federal reserve data like that, your average is still above $1mil/household, so fuck you too? you're just mad that the boomers have you beaten out.
Its a simplistic view, however the US economy has been spinning its legs in the air and the post-war generations have benefited immensely from all the borrowing from future generations.
Without it Americans would have had the lifestyles of Mexicans.

And I haven't even touched on the avoidance of infrastructure spending, pushing a whole lot more multi-trillion-dollar problems down the road.

Thats all trivial though, compared with the damage done by pollution, burning up all the oil, climate change obviously.
Each boomer should probably be forced to put their hand in their pocket and and over about $2m.
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lack of investment spending is one of the most reprehensible aspects of the neoliberal paradigm. 'trickle up' without even taking care of the barest necessities to keep the lights on for future generations. pillaging, essentially, with as much sense of noblesse oblige or responsibility to the nation.

we had a conservative government in power with record low interest rates for ~15 bloody years and all they did was take things away, death by a thousand cuts, 'austerity' invoking war-time rationing and forbearance ... while the fat cats had their euphemised 'quantitative easing' (i.e. socialism for the megarich). you couldn't even convince the main retail banks to lend to stricken plebs post-2008, despite being flush with bailout money taken straight from the taxpayers. you can't make this shit up. no attempt whatsoever to leverage exceptionally favourable conditions for big, multi-generational development projects.

the craziest thing about the entire 21st century so far is that an existential, once-in-a-century event like the 2008 GFC didn't cause a reckoning with the prevailing system. everything went back to 'business as usual' with alarming alacrity. worst, certain administrations soon rolled back the new regulations and punishment clauses for the big banks and wall street, the so-called correctives. we just flopped straight back to the failing model and shushed any political alternatives. almost every single groundswell of support for movements like corbyn, sanders, OWS, podemos, syriza, pasok, etc. were ignored within about one electoral cycle.

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unrelated, but J D vance trying to 'sleight' china by referring to them as 'chinese peasants' is all sorts of odd. isn't this the guy whose path to power was by playing on a parody of his 'hillbilly' origins? and why would you try to insult the fucking CCP on their peasant origins? lol. that's kind of the whole banner appeal of communism. having ancestors who were peasants is high status in china ffs, lol.

vance has a terminally online 4chan-millennial kind of world view. extreme ignorance combined with vicious discrimination.

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@Uzi,

The problem is that vast sums of the people who live in English speaking countries don't consider their fellow citizens to be valid citizens or sometimes even human.

I am not just talking immigration and race. The existence of gays, trans, and girls with blue hair upset people to the point where they will happily vote for people who promise to punch down on that group while also explicitly endorsing an economic program that hurts everyone but the wealthy.

There's really no way to break. It is impossible to convince a big subset of society to be nicer to each other when you also have a huge media superstructure telling them to embrace their worse instincts.
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Remember these two 🥷 that Masterstyle/Roc18 used to post about all the time? I bet that homeboy went straight down the MAGA pipeline with them after the nerdy white and Asian girls at college didn't give him any play. I thank God every day I didn't end up in that sewer. I don't even know how I avoided it.
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uziq
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that effect isn't limited to 'english speaking countries' and certainly isn't a modern phenomenon. fascism itself requires a 'germ' or 'outsider' that can be blamed for all of society's ills and discontents. the idea of a scapegoat is literally biblical in origin, and is nothing new.

the ruling class strategy of sowing internecine conflict amongst the plebs is basically as old as rome too.
uziq
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https://x.com/esjesjesj/status/19107099 … 7OKnIcMVqg

realistically, is he going to last another 3 months?

he was totally at odds with the administration on tariffs.
Dilbert_X
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Very funny that Trump thinks he can 'bring manufacturing home'.
Apart from the colossal capital cost, there's finding the workers.


Apart from that, there's finding the Industrial and Manufacturing Engineers.
Germany is short of these people, the whole western world is short of these people.
You can't just offshore an entire industry and expect the skill base to be sitting there waiting 20-30 years later, they've moved on and their kids skipped over completely.
There probably aren't even the engineers to train the next generation when there's been a generation or two gap.
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uziq
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engineering is a low-status job and the dearth of engineering talent in the low-population west can more than easily be made up for by skimming the 1% cream of the crop from india’s technical universities.

doing the necessary and checking the failsafing saaahr.

with AI i’d say about 70% of day-to-day scientific expertise has been solved for. the world had to suffer 25 years of the jay’s of this world rubbing their HVAC ‘engineering nous’ in our faces aka plugging numerical values into wolfram alpha or somesuch other solved-for problem, all while pretending they’re daily developing new forms of calculus or pondering the riemann zeta distribution or whatever the fuck.

plus aren’t the indians all plenty experienced in air conditioning systems by now anyway?

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https://x.com/palantirtech/status/19106 … 7OKnIcMVqg

on the plus side, bright high-schoolers can now be hoovered up by shadowy silicon valley firms funded by parodic fascist supervillain peter thiel. yay! educating the best and brightest technicians of tomorrow’s total surveillance state/race war/atomic holocaust (you get to choose!!!)
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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p … 235314218/

this rolling stone write-up on the internal workings of DOGE is so funny. who wudda thunk it!

to quote a twitter user:

DOGE is made of people who believe they can derive all things from first principles because they're Very Special Boys who are good at using the computer; a trait that is shared (to varying ends) by a bunch of really, really annoying posters.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoW9hedWgAIjxLg?format=jpg&name=medium

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uziq
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SuperJail Warden
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It all comes down to disfigured penises.

Jewish podcasters want us to give up our jobs working around women to instead reclaim manhood working in factories. They spend all day looking at penises in porn and feel bad about their circumcized penises. They feel torn from their manhood because their foreskin was taken from them. It is the same way with Joe Rogan and all of these other bodybuilding MAGA homos. The MAGA bodybuilders literally shrunk their balls with steroids in order to impress other men. They look down and see their balls have gotten smaller. And they are like "oh no. My balls are small now." And they decide they need to reclaim manhood on a factory floor. If they assemble enough transmissions maybe something will happen that will make their balls big again. But it won't work. Do you know why? Microplastics in the factory air will continue to shrink penis and balls. The white American male will literally be unable to reproduce because so many have spent so much time trying to impress other men at the gym. And I am tired of having to pretend otherwise.
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So the SC said to return that guy, and Trump says no and the El Salvador president says no, and conservatives are cheering that the Constitution is ignored?

Got it.

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