pirana6 wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
So when did the Palestinians start any of it?
They're the victims, not the invaders or the aggressors.
I'm not saying you're right or wrong, what I'm saying is, it's basically impossible to say who started it.
For example, (in heavily condensed terms) Israel was created that forced palestinians out. They got mad and fought back. Blame jews in this case? It was the general assembly (if i remember correctly) that decided to partition the area.
It's not that impossible.
Jewish immigration to the area in the early 20th century caused it.
Before then you needed to go back more than a millennia so I think we can discount the arguments from the Roman era as being historic (as well as being highly disputed by mainstream modern historians, particularly the stuff about the Syria Palestinia name change - a name referred to in the 5th century BC as describing the region, which the Romans assigned to Judea 6 or 7 centuries later, allegedly to convince Jews to leave), whereas things within the past couple of centuries are relevant in a modern context.
It was nothing to do with Israel being created and that forcing the Palestinians out. Israel was created by terror squads forcing the Palestinians out or massacring them (Deir Yassin for example), this was later legitimised by the general assembly. It's not the same thing at all.
It is one thing to be given a country it is another to turn up in someone else's country and to deprive them of their livelihoods, have militia groups murder them (Hagganah) and terror groups (Irgun and Lehi) conduct bombing campaigns against them until you can seize control and force them out - then to have these actions legitimised by the UN because everyone felt sorry for them in the wake of WWII.