In one ear, out the other. It'll never take with him.Bertster7 wrote:
There is a huge difference between campaigning for equality and promoting something.
i said it multiple times, we are not recognizing equality in this and posted plenty of reasons why. we will treat homosexuals like the impaired people they are placing appropriate restrictions on them, the same way we do with, for example, color blind. we are not interested in what you think about it because you are unable to provide any reasoning. fuck off already.
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if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
yeah because color blind people are getting the shit beaten out of them in the streets. gg.Shahter wrote:
i said it multiple times, we are not recognizing equality in this and posted plenty of reasons why. we will treat homosexuals like the impaired people they are placing appropriate restrictions on them, the same way we do with, for example, color blind. we are not interested in what you think about it because you are unable to provide any reasoning. fuck off already.
"Hey fells he can't see red! Let's get him!"
If color-blind people were getting singled out for violence for some reason, I'd expect them to campaign for awareness too.
Can't we just give gay people a country somewhere and let them do whatever the fuck they want? Like Israel.
Because creating Israel was such a great idea in the first place.
sure. if that happened. the thing is, we have laws to protect anybody who's singled out for violence for any reason, including their sexual preferences here. there's no need to raise any fuss, there are courts of law available.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
If color-blind people were getting singled out for violence for some reason, I'd expect them to campaign for awareness too.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
You need more than just laws to change the stance of a society.
you can't change the stance of a society. it can only change itself.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
You need more than just laws to change the stance of a society.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
All you've done is found a polite way to say "I don't like homos/fags". If you wanted to protect children, you'd do well to eliminate bigotry:Shahter wrote:
i said it multiple times, we are not recognizing equality in this and posted plenty of reasons why. we will treat homosexuals like the impaired people they are placing appropriate restrictions on them, the same way we do with, for example, color blind. we are not interested in what you think about it because you are unable to provide any reasoning. fuck off already.
http://www.examiner.com/article/proposi … olestation
The man behind a prominent anti-gay group (the US branch of protect marriage) was arrested in 2011 for child molestation.
But seriously, you think they're impaired because of the whole "can't breed" thing? How do you reconcile that against infertile heterosexual couples?
Wouldn't allowing gay couples equal legal recognition instead of oppressing them present an ideal solution to the orphan problem? You'd be providing the kids with a more stable home & a better life, and would also reduce demand for orphanages (which in turn reduces costs to the Russian taxpayer)
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"you can't change the stance of society"Shahter wrote:
you can't change the stance of a society. it can only change itself.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
You need more than just laws to change the stance of a society.
*looks at multiple instances where the stance of society has changed over the course of history*
So who changes it? Midi chlorians?
What's wrong with that!? I'm pretty fucking sick of this modern day bullshit where you have to like EVERYONE or you're a bigot or a racist or some other shit.BVC wrote:
All you've done is found a polite way to say "I don't like homos/fags".
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Go hold hands with and sing lollipop songs with your "deep" friends and shut the fuck up. If he doesn't like or I don't like gay people, that really isn't any of your fucking business so long as we aren't harming anyone.
Who cares if you like them or not? All most of them want is that people be reasonable about it. No targeted violence, no slander, equal rights, etc.
Brilliant, you're starting to understand the core of the equal rights argument here! Now, if only governments thought this way.Extra Medium wrote:
If he doesn't like or I don't like gay people, that really isn't any of your fucking business so long as we aren't harming anyone.
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Here we go.......unnamednewbie13 wrote:
"you can't change the stance of society"Shahter wrote:
you can't change the stance of a society. it can only change itself.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
You need more than just laws to change the stance of a society.
*looks at multiple instances where the stance of society has changed over the course of history*
So who changes it? Midi chlorians?
Let me guess, people like MLK?
Because blacks are so fucking popular these days right? He totally changed society. Instead of everyone hating blacks in public, everyone hates them in private now. Good job MLK, did you also have a dream about having the highest percentage of race in prison, poverty and drug users too? Ever notice how virtually every major city in the U.S. honored MLK by naming their WORST streets MLK BLVD?
Extra Medium: "people have zero impact on society"
Extra Medium: *blaming the plight of blacks in today's society on MLK*
/facedesk
Extra Medium: *blaming the plight of blacks in today's society on MLK*
/facedesk
That isn't at all what I said.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Extra Medium: "people have zero impact on society"
Extra Medium: *blaming the plight of blacks in today's society on MLK*
/facedesk
already answered this - i'm totally indifferent towards gays. what i don't like is when they try to trow their homosexuality in the face of society.BVC wrote:
All you've done is found a polite way to say "I don't like homos/fags".
easy. if infertile heterosexuals started publicly promoting their infertility i would be against that just as well as i'm against promoting homosexuality.But seriously, you think they're impaired because of the whole "can't breed" thing? How do you reconcile that against infertile heterosexual couples?
no. because homosexuality is undesirable condition that can be influenced in people via social means, like, in this case, between parents and children.Wouldn't allowing gay couples equal legal recognition instead of oppressing them present an ideal solution to the orphan problem?
while also exposing them to influence from homosexuals. no, thanks.You'd be providing the kids with a more stable home & a better life
i'm okay with my tax money spent on orphanages.and would also reduce demand for orphanages (which in turn reduces costs to the Russian taxpayer)
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if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
you want to know how tradition and social consensus is formed within a society? well, there's a number of ways to learn that. i'll let you find one on your own.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
"you can't change the stance of society"Shahter wrote:
you can't change the stance of a society. it can only change itself.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
You need more than just laws to change the stance of a society.
*looks at multiple instances where the stance of society has changed over the course of history*
So who changes it? Midi chlorians?
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
What exactly do I need to find out again? Changes in society can be induced by popular ideas, which often have small origins.
pfffbt
pfffbt
yes.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
What exactly do I need to find out again? Changes in society can be induced by popular ideas
very seldom.which often have small origins.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
So society spontaneously changes because everybody suddenly decides to do so? Since when did we turn into the borg collective?
'impaired people' ... ha. For someone who says he doesn't care about gay people you sure like to argue how they're inferior and best kept from seeing the light of day. Let me guess, the next step is locking up people with downs in cages again?Shahter wrote:
i said it multiple times, we are not recognizing equality in this and posted plenty of reasons why. we will treat homosexuals like the impaired people they are placing appropriate restrictions on them, the same way we do with, for example, color blind. we are not interested in what you think about it because you are unable to provide any reasoning. fuck off already.
Really, I give up on expecting anything remotely intelligent from someone (you) who honestly believes academics writing on Russia and the SU are part of a western slander conspiracy against his nation. I guess you must've been rejected from some shitty third-grade Russian uni leading you to develop a long-life grudge against anything and anyone involved with what would be called 'proper research'. You and your fellow Ruskis are totally backwards.
inane little opines
Post of the year.Extra Medium wrote:
Let me guess, people like MLK?
Because blacks are so fucking popular these days right? He totally changed society. Instead of everyone hating blacks in public, everyone hates them in private now.
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