Assuming you do 8 hours a day and work 5 days a week you make a little less than $40,000 a year. That isn't a great job.Canin wrote:
No, I repair food equipment. Its a skilled trade. I am making over 20.00 an hour. My wife stays at home with my 4 kids, and I am able to barely support everything we need.Macbeth wrote:
Aren't you a delivery person?Canin wrote:
I agree with this.
If someone who has had a career job and lost it has to take a minimum wage job and supplement it with government assistance for a time, that is fine. I think they call it being under employed.
Those who are under employed should continue to look for a better paying job, not resign themselves to a minimum wage job and hope the government increases the minimum wage to make up what they lost.
And what do you do, since you are so inclined to have the minimum wage raised?
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it's an honest job, and he's acquired skills.Macbeth wrote:
Assuming you do 8 hours a day and work 5 days a week you make a little less than $40,000 a year. That isn't a great job.
pray tell macbeth, outside of washing cars and taking up space in asylums, what skills have you amassed in your beautiful, new jersey life?
i thought so.
I was actually working on the cars. A skilled trade. I was making a little under $30,000 a year.
According to the U.S. poverty guidelines he is barely above the poverty line.
http://www.njb.uscourts.gov/content/poverty-guidelines
In NJ the median income for a household, assuming 2 kids I think, is $55,000. By NJ standards he is poor and by U.S. federal standards just hanging on.
I am not trying to be a dick but unless you are making bank you probably should avoid judging other people's job choices. Just a thought.
According to the U.S. poverty guidelines he is barely above the poverty line.
http://www.njb.uscourts.gov/content/poverty-guidelines
In NJ the median income for a household, assuming 2 kids I think, is $55,000. By NJ standards he is poor and by U.S. federal standards just hanging on.
I am not trying to be a dick but unless you are making bank you probably should avoid judging other people's job choices. Just a thought.
How much do you make a year burnzz's? I would like to compare it with the average income of all other drug convicted former inmates.
i make just under fifty large, if i were to share it with you, after a life of driving a forklift, driving a 53" truck, teaching myself how to extract IC chips, having 7 certifications and generally being more adapted at my advanced age to cope with today's world than to someone from bayonne that chokes on an english majors' nuts.Macbeth wrote:
How much do you make a year burnzz's? I would like to compare it with the average income of all other drug convicted former inmates.
Not that its really your business, but with OT through out the year, I gross close to 60k and take home most of that, since I pay very little in federal income tax.Macbeth wrote:
Assuming you do 8 hours a day and work 5 days a week you make a little less than $40,000 a year. That isn't a great job.Canin wrote:
No, I repair food equipment. Its a skilled trade. I am making over 20.00 an hour. My wife stays at home with my 4 kids, and I am able to barely support everything we need.Macbeth wrote:
Aren't you a delivery person?
And what do you do, since you are so inclined to have the minimum wage raised?
Again, what do you do that makes you so inclined to have the minimum wage increased?
Canin, it will be very hard to discern macbeth's answer from inside uzique's rectum. he washes cars and takes up space in new jersey sanitoriums, pay him no heed.Canin wrote:
Again, what do you do that makes you so inclined to have the minimum wage increased?
For one thing a high min wage discourages people from running unproductive businesses.
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It would also cut down on that companies available workforce.Dilbert_X wrote:
For one thing a high min wage discourages people from running unproductive businesses.
It dawns on me now, the reason for the government wanting to increase the minimum wage so drastically. With the added strain of obamacare, and the employers reducing everyones hours to below a 30 hour work week, this is the governments attempt to pacify those entry level earners who lost thier hours due to the cutbacks....
Still you said yourself you are just managing to support your family. You should avoid criticizing other people's jobs and choices of work since you are on the lower end of the economic curve. It is especially funny you were agreeing with Ilocano who would slit his wrist if he made as much as you do.
Me? I quit my job a few months back so my rent, car, utilities, cell phone, and all other life expenses are covered by my parents. I was making a little under $30,000 a year fixing cars before though. I hated it. Was making over minimum wage.
I'm not trying to make fun of you or put you down over your life's work or something. I just don't think like it when lower wage people shit on people just a little bit below them.
Me? I quit my job a few months back so my rent, car, utilities, cell phone, and all other life expenses are covered by my parents. I was making a little under $30,000 a year fixing cars before though. I hated it. Was making over minimum wage.
I'm not trying to make fun of you or put you down over your life's work or something. I just don't think like it when lower wage people shit on people just a little bit below them.
I am just managing to support my family, without government assistance, because of bad debt choices I made when I was younger. I am not shitting on anyone. I made minimum wage when it was 3.15 an hour, and I was 16. Its called minimum wage for a reason, you twit. Learn a skill, go to school and get a degree, and go out and look for a real career. Dont expect one to be handed to you, and dont expect the government to raise you up. All of us who make more than minimum wage get screwed when the government dictates that it needs to be raised. If you cant figure that out now, while living off of mommy and daddy, you are lost and better hope you can find your way.Macbeth wrote:
Still you said yourself you are just managing to support your family. You should avoid criticizing other people's jobs and choices of work since you are on the lower end of the economic curve. It is especially funny you were agreeing with Ilocano who would slit his wrist if he made as much as you do.
Me? I quit my job a few months back so my rent, car, utilities, cell phone, and all other life expenses are covered by my parents. I was making a little under $30,000 a year fixing cars before though. I hated it. Was making over minimum wage.
I'm not trying to make fun of you or put you down over your life's work or something. I just don't think like it when lower wage people shit on people just a little bit below them.
Working on cars for you yielded only slightly less than what I make. That's like the most depressing thing ever. (Granted, my job is shitty and I'm sure I'm overqualified, but gotta take little babby steps)Macbeth wrote:
I was actually working on the cars. A skilled trade. I was making a little under $30,000 a year.
According to the U.S. poverty guidelines he is barely above the poverty line.
http://www.njb.uscourts.gov/content/poverty-guidelines
In NJ the median income for a household, assuming 2 kids I think, is $55,000. By NJ standards he is poor and by U.S. federal standards just hanging on.
I am not trying to be a dick but unless you are making bank you probably should avoid judging other people's job choices. Just a thought.
Some cars techs make a $100,000 gross if you can believe it. It is such a shitty job though that I would happily take half of that to work in an office.DesertFox- wrote:
Working on cars for you yielded only slightly less than what I make. That's like the most depressing thing ever. (Granted, my job is shitty and I'm sure I'm overqualified, but gotta take little babby steps)Macbeth wrote:
I was actually working on the cars. A skilled trade. I was making a little under $30,000 a year.
According to the U.S. poverty guidelines he is barely above the poverty line.
http://www.njb.uscourts.gov/content/poverty-guidelines
In NJ the median income for a household, assuming 2 kids I think, is $55,000. By NJ standards he is poor and by U.S. federal standards just hanging on.
I am not trying to be a dick but unless you are making bank you probably should avoid judging other people's job choices. Just a thought.
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Whatever. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't be giving lectures on how to get a career and criticizing people who aren't as well enough as you are when you are still behind the curve.Canin wrote:
I am just managing to support my family, without government assistance, because of bad debt choices I made when I was younger. I am not shitting on anyone. I made minimum wage when it was 3.15 an hour, and I was 16. Its called minimum wage for a reason, you twit. Learn a skill, go to school and get a degree, and go out and look for a real career. Dont expect one to be handed to you, and dont expect the government to raise you up. All of us who make more than minimum wage get screwed when the government dictates that it needs to be raised. If you cant figure that out now, while living off of mommy and daddy, you are lost and better hope you can find your way.Macbeth wrote:
Still you said yourself you are just managing to support your family. You should avoid criticizing other people's jobs and choices of work since you are on the lower end of the economic curve. It is especially funny you were agreeing with Ilocano who would slit his wrist if he made as much as you do.
Me? I quit my job a few months back so my rent, car, utilities, cell phone, and all other life expenses are covered by my parents. I was making a little under $30,000 a year fixing cars before though. I hated it. Was making over minimum wage.
I'm not trying to make fun of you or put you down over your life's work or something. I just don't think like it when lower wage people shit on people just a little bit below them.
By the way, the cost of living is less where I live. If I lived in Newark, I would probably be making somewhere close to 85-90K. Well above your median line. Cost of living is 40% higher in Newark, so pay for my field would be equivilant.
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A rise of 40% in cost of living doesn't automatically translate to 40% more income... Especially when you work in a highly industrialized place that is heavily populated. You would find that there are a lot more people with your skill set here than bumblefuck Carolina. Good luck raising 4 kids on 90,000 a year in NJ too.
I'm not sure about the specifics but I think a lot of seasonal farm workers work for much less than 7.25 an hour. Sucks pretty hard. Can't really get an education or learn trade skills when you don't speak very good english, have no identification and live in a shack in the middle of nowhere. I feel truly bad for those people.
you'd rather be lectured by a one-percenter? oh okay.Macbeth wrote:
Whatever. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't be giving lectures on how to get a career and criticizing people who aren't as well enough as you are when you are still behind the curve.Canin wrote:
I am just managing to support my family, without government assistance, because of bad debt choices I made when I was younger. I am not shitting on anyone. I made minimum wage when it was 3.15 an hour, and I was 16. Its called minimum wage for a reason, you twit. Learn a skill, go to school and get a degree, and go out and look for a real career. Dont expect one to be handed to you, and dont expect the government to raise you up. All of us who make more than minimum wage get screwed when the government dictates that it needs to be raised. If you cant figure that out now, while living off of mommy and daddy, you are lost and better hope you can find your way.Macbeth wrote:
Still you said yourself you are just managing to support your family. You should avoid criticizing other people's jobs and choices of work since you are on the lower end of the economic curve. It is especially funny you were agreeing with Ilocano who would slit his wrist if he made as much as you do.
Me? I quit my job a few months back so my rent, car, utilities, cell phone, and all other life expenses are covered by my parents. I was making a little under $30,000 a year fixing cars before though. I hated it. Was making over minimum wage.
I'm not trying to make fun of you or put you down over your life's work or something. I just don't think like it when lower wage people shit on people just a little bit below them.
It would be good for people making minimum wage. I would not be good for people who are unemployed and got priced out of the market.
RAIMIUS wrote:
It would be good for people making minimum wage except the ones fired to make room. It would not be good for people who are unemployed and got priced out of the market.
Yes, that was the point about those priced out of the market. Yes, the "I" should have been "It."unnamednewbie13 wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:
It would be good for people making minimum wage except the ones fired to make room. It would not be good for people who are unemployed and got priced out of the market.
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