you are clearly a very poor interpreter of art/imagery. the chin and ears have been exaggerated in that image. he has a strong mouth but the lips are not at all in the style of racist depictions of african-americans. perhaps it's a translation issue, but he doesn't have frizzy hair, either. nothing about his 'blackness' has been emphasised in that cartoon.Shahter wrote:
black, big lips, frizzy hair.
racist?
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guilty as charged. i do know my music and russian literature - kinda, but deciphering imagery - notta thing.uziq wrote:
you are clearly a very poor interpreter of art/imagery.
well...the chin and ears have been exaggerated in that image. he has a strong mouth but the lips are not at all in the style of racist depictions of african-americans. perhaps it's a translation issue, but he doesn't have frizzy hair, either. nothing about his 'blackness' has been emphasised in that cartoon.
Basically yes.Shahter wrote:
right. so, basically, by these standarts it's impossible to draw a caricature of a black person, or jewish person or <put any other group which had been stereotipically pictrured in the past here> that wouldn't be racist of anti-smitic or what not, huh? there's always a context of the kind you described, is there not? serena, for example, is black, brutish, with big lips and has frizzy hair - how do you draw a cartoon of her omitting those features which would still be recognizably about her?
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All caricatures are insulting, why should anyone get special treatment?uziq wrote:
it's almost as if all those people aren't part of a race that has been systematically mistreated and abused with a racist caricature for 300 years.
uuuuuuh . . .Dilbert_X wrote:
All caricatures are insulting, why should anyone get special treatment?uziq wrote:
it's almost as if all those people aren't part of a race that has been systematically mistreated and abused with a racist caricature for 300 years.
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if i'm getting zeek's opinion right, the point is some groups of people have been exposed to so much insulting crap for no reason (or worse - for purposes of discrimination) in recent past that it does warrant some special care in dealings with them - and i kinda agree tbh. there is of course a problem with this particular case: the criteria for identifying what's okay and what's not is very subtle and requires specialized knowledge to spot - "he has a strong mouth" whatever the heck that means... - all that makes it seemingly impossible to do any kind of satire targetted at members of certain groups of people, imo.Dilbert_X wrote:
All caricatures are insulting, why should anyone get special treatment?
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she didn't cheat. I watched that whole match live. Tennis coaches coach from the box all the time, and it virtually never gets called. In no circumstance should a chair ump have the ability to take a whole game away from a player. Sad ending to an amazing match.Dilbert_X wrote:
She did throw an ape tantrum. What does she expect, special treatment?
Maybe the umpire should have let her cheat 'because slavery', this victim-claiming thing is getting annoying.
I blame the jews for starting it.
Crux of the issue tbhKEN-JENNINGS wrote:
dilbert is a racist
Being coached from the box is cheating, this time it did get called out.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
she didn't cheat. I watched that whole match live. Tennis coaches coach from the box all the time, and it virtually never gets called. In no circumstance should a chair ump have the ability to take a whole game away from a player. Sad ending to an amazing match.Dilbert_X wrote:
She did throw an ape tantrum. What does she expect, special treatment?
Maybe the umpire should have let her cheat 'because slavery', this victim-claiming thing is getting annoying.
I blame the jews for starting it.
Maybe Serena Williams is racist and sexist, expecting special treatment because of who she is.dilbert is a racist
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