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One day their heads are literally going to explode.

First they said we had to support the troops. Then they said we had to support small businesses. Then they said we needed to support the police. Now they are saying we need to support the Jews.

I am not saying I don't support the Jews. But I resent this guilt trip about Jewish people being attacked in NYC by black people. This isn't like the attacks on the innocent Asians. All the Jews need to do is to dress like normal white people and stop trying to cause scenes whenever they go places.

I'm looking forward to when Israel decides its in their best interests to flip sides and ally with China.

uziq wrote:

american conservatives like pro-israel jews. there's a weird symbiosis between zionism and evangelicals. even though both theologies technically state that the other group will be excluded in the end-of-times. the important thing, in the short-term, is that they both want to usher in the fucking end-of-times.

lots of evangelicals go to israel to do charity work. it's a really weird quirk of american religion.

They just like that the Israelis kill Muslims.

I forgot who said it but I heard it once argued that 9/11 was the worst thing to ever happen to the Palestinian movement (aside from everything else).

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

uziq wrote:

the video means nothing to me except as a testament to the utter senselessness of american public life in the 2020s.

Growing up in OC, it was well-known that HB is/was a bastion of white supremacy. There's a weird mix of 40-something loser beach bums and older white people who can't afford to leave because they bought their house 30 years ago and it's worth more than they made over their whole careers. It's a fucking cess pool and I don't recommend anyone go there.

Tito Ortiz is the Mayor Pro Tem. All you need to know about that city.

now explain this:

Once again, historically Palestinians haven't been particularly muslim and haven't historically subscribed to radical islam.
Jews are Palestinians after all.

The jewish invasion and persecution of non-jewish Palestinians drove them to Hamas, Lebanon wouldn't have Hezbollah if Israel didn't keep attacking them etc

Lebanon and various regional places have been trading hubs over the years.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Once again, historically Palestinians haven't been particularly muslim and haven't historically subscribed to radical islam.

The vast sum of Sunni Muslim extremism has its roots in Israel giving the Arabs lessons on modern warfare. 9/11 itself was inspired by the bombing of Lebanon. Of course the U.S. gave the Islamic world a lot more to be angry about in the near past but Palestinian nationalism is like Serbian nationalism: nothing good has ever come of it. The world would probably be a better place if Israel managed to push out all of the Muslims from the area and made them into Egyptians, Syrians, and Jordanians.

there was literally a 5-year arab palestine revolt before the founding of israel. you're not very good at the history of colonialism are you?

maybe it's because you can't admit that britain ever did anything wrong in the region.

are you seriously, really suggesting that palestine and the holy lands was a peaceful area before the arrival of zionists in 1900?

laughing my fucking ass off

the holy lands 'no more disrupted than any other part of the world'?

jesus christ read a fucking book. i can't think of many other territories that have been as hotly contested throughout history.

the periods when they've enjoyed relative peace and stability have mostly been when ... they were ruled over by an occupying empire. LMAO.

Pretty sure they brought terrorism and genocide, that was their plan, again.

remind me when and how muslims first conquered palestine, again, in the 7th century?

Last edited by uziq (2021-05-27 19:47:18)

both groups have historical claims to the region. it's probably worth paying attention to the actual history --- something you seem singularly incapable of, thinking, bizarrely, that 'jews are from egypt' and 'jews are palestinians, after all'. you are totally incoherent on this point. the jewish people have been there since the late bronze age. the palestinian 'people' didn't even exist until relatively recently, and is effectively an admixture created by numerous colonial powers (roman, ottoman, british).

in any case, considering islam didn't even arrive in the levant until the 7th century AD, it's safe to say that what you think of as palestinians now, i.e. arab-muslims, are a later identity formation than the jewish tribes which are on the archeological record there from 400 BC. amazing what a basic grasp of history will do, isn't it?

to say that the holy lands and jerusalem have been peaceful and 'no more disrupted than anywhere else in the world' is laughable. the holy lands have been the focal point of conflict and territorial gains/losses for literally two millennia. it was a hotbed of rebellions and uprisings even during the roman era. the only time, again, when it hasn't been an area of strife and contest is when an empire was squatting on it.

Last edited by uziq (2021-05-27 19:59:48)

zionists believe they have an exclusive right, but this view is not unique to jewish theology.

did you miss the part where christians and muslims both fought over jerusalem and believed it was theirs?

are you genuinely interested in the history of zionism? i doubt it. whenever anyone mentions the mandate or the british empire, you put your hands over your ears and start saying la-la-la. whenever anyone tries to explain to you that opposition to zionism within judaism has a long counter-history, you make some inane remark. jews, particularly in western europe and latterly in the US, have been vocal opponents of the zionist project since the 19th century. freud is on record speaking against it. as is einstein. but you aren't interested in this.

americans in general are pro-israel, yep. the israel lobby definitely has an influence on capitol hill, and christians generally are more sympathetic to jews than muslims, especially post 9-11. but to make out that one group making exclusive claims on the region is an aberration is funny. read a book, i sincerely implore you.

'reading comprehension ftw'