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2006-08-31 07:22:51

IG-Calibre: comhalta; +226|6986|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

Mahatma Ghandi once said "The spirit of democracy cannot be imposed from without. It has to come from within".

As the democratic "world" continues to spend hundreds of billions of dollar and a cost of innumerable human lives bringing "Democracy" to those who reject it. What duty do these said countries have towards a nation that embraced Democracy yet their fledgling government was over thrown by a military Junta and it's political leader Aung San Suu Kyi imprisoned (now nearly 14years) while her people live in poverty, children starve to death and a Diaspora of 1.5 millon refugees are homeless worldwide?

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2006-08-31 13:27:41

herrr_smity: Member; +156|6872|space command ur anus

Mahatma Ghandi once said "The spirit of democracy cannot be imposed from without. It has to come from within".
that true

2006-08-31 13:32:11

jonsimon: Member; +224|6739

I like how none of the "lets free the iraqis" right wingers has the guts to speak up here.

2006-08-31 13:36:21

Miller: IT'S MILLER TIME!; +271|7000|United States of America

jonsimon wrote:
I like how none of the "lets free the iraqis" right wingers has the guts to speak up here.

Read between the lines when listening to Bush, he didn't want to free the Iraqi's just to free them. He did it to get the Iranian people to realize that they too could be free and not live under a tyrant where saying "I don't like your system of government." will get you killed. If we invaded Iran you people would be moaning so much more than Iraq, and we also stopped some funding to terrorists. You go ahead and think whatever you want to. I'll be praying for you tonight.

2006-08-31 13:36:23

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|6980|Salt Lake City

I don't think it's true of just democracy, but about anything on such a grand social scale. If the Iraqi people as whole don't want democracy, then no matter what we do we will not change their country for the better.

2006-08-31 13:42:55

jonsimon: Member; +224|6739

Miller wrote:
jonsimon wrote:
I like how none of the "lets free the iraqis" right wingers has the guts to speak up here.
Read between the lines when listening to Bush, he didn't want to free the Iraqi's just to free them. He did it to get the Iranian people to realize that they too could be free and not live under a tyrant where saying "I don't like your system of government." will get you killed. If we invaded Iran you people would be moaning so much more than Iraq, and we also stopped some funding to terrorists. You go ahead and think whatever you want to. I'll be praying for you tonight.

Ah, so when he says "Operation Iraqi Freedom" he really means "Operation make myself some big bucks". Of course, my bad.

The Iranian people should think WE are the tyrant, rightfully so. Last time we tampered with their government they got an oppressive dictator the likes of saddam.

I'm sorry, which terrorists did we cut funding to?

Please don't, if I'm wrong and there is a diety, I want as many degrees of seperation between you and I.

2006-08-31 15:51:17

AlbertWesker[RE]: Not Human Anymore; +144|6888|Seattle, WA

jonsimon wrote:
1) Ah, so when he says "Operation Iraqi Freedom" he really means "Operation make myself some big bucks". Of course, my bad.

2) The Iranian people should think WE are the tyrant, rightfully so. Last time we tampered with their government they got an oppressive dictator the likes of saddam.

3) Please don't, if I'm wrong and there is a diety, I want as many degrees of seperation between you and I.

1) Source? Or just your opinion and that of moveon.org?

2) How do you know, are you Iranian?

3) What is a diety? Do you mean deity?

2006-08-31 16:40:09

jonsimon: Member; +224|6739

Mike_J wrote:
jonsimon wrote:
I like how none of the "lets free the iraqis" right wingers has the guts to speak up here.
You gonna' give em' time? Not everyone is always on BF2S. What's there to speak up against though? He stated Ghandi's view of democracy. Okay, great. Oh wait, should I assume you think all the Iraqi's hate democracy? I could speak out against that.

Uh, how about reading the other half of the OP? Theres a democratic country out there under the yoke of oppression, and we haven't heard hide nor hair about it because they don't have power.

2006-08-31 16:42:05

jonsimon: Member; +224|6739

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
jonsimon wrote:
1) Ah, so when he says "Operation Iraqi Freedom" he really means "Operation make myself some big bucks". Of course, my bad.

2) The Iranian people should think WE are the tyrant, rightfully so. Last time we tampered with their government they got an oppressive dictator the likes of saddam.

3) Please don't, if I'm wrong and there is a diety, I want as many degrees of seperation between you and I.
1) Source? Or just your opinion and that of moveon.org?

2) How do you know, are you Iranian?

3) What is a diety? Do you mean deity?

Sorry, do I need a source for sardonicism now? Or was it not enough that I was instructed to read between the lines by the poster before me?

I was clever, I added the word should in there just to debunk arguments such as this. I never claimed to know what the Iranian people think, just my opinion of what they might likely think.

Yeah, typo.

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2006-08-31 17:46:12

jonsimon: Member; +224|6739

Mike_J wrote:
jonsimon wrote:
Mike_J wrote:

You gonna' give em' time? Not everyone is always on BF2S. What's there to speak up against though? He stated Ghandi's view of democracy. Okay, great. Oh wait, should I assume you think all the Iraqi's hate democracy? I could speak out against that.
Uh, how about reading the other half of the OP? Theres a democratic country out there under the yoke of oppression, and we haven't heard hide nor hair about it because they don't have power.
Your first post implied to me that the Iraqis don't deserve or need help, but these other people do. Like I've mentioned sometime back if it were up to me we'd be making alot more attempts to liberate people, but I'm just glad that we started somewhere (even though of course there are others more desperately in need of help, which is the point of the OP, yet it doesn't change the fact that the Iraqis need help).

Ah, well I was implying that we are not in Iraq for any purpose of 'liberation'. Sorry your inference was misleading.

2006-08-31 18:27:56

EVieira: Member; +105|6722|Lutenblaag, Molvania

Miller wrote:
Read between the lines when listening to Bush, he didn't want to free the Iraqi's just to free them. He did it to get the Iranian people to realize that they too could be free and not live under a tyrant where saying "I don't like your system of government." will get you killed. If we invaded Iran you people would be moaning so much more than Iraq, and we also stopped some funding to terrorists. You go ahead and think whatever you want to. I'll be praying for you tonight.

I guess Bush is your prophet. Are you related to CyrusTheVirus in anyway?

"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

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