Yes there is reverse racism in America, affirmative action is one example. NO I have never been a victim of it and yes it does still exist doesn't it??Jusster wrote:
LOL........your kidding right? So your argument is..........There is reverse racism towards whites in America. You have personally NEVER seen it in your how many years? But you know its out there because you are conscious of the world around you. What a joke. Come to think about it, I haven't seen not one of your post in which you state facts..........only your poor misguided feelings as to what you believe to be true. How about you show some hard core facts to prove your points instead of feeding off your baseless emotions.lowing wrote:
1. You obviously don't get out much. Although, personally, I haven't been called any racial slurs. I am conscious of the world around me.No I don't. Why don't you explain yourself instead of expecting me to read your mind. Sorry, but that would be hard for me to do since I definitely don't live my life from your point of view nor would I ever want to.lowing wrote:
2. You wanted me to "prove" white violence against blacks....If you are as smart as your condescending post suggests you know very well what is referenced. Look it up yourself.Once again you are completely wrong. Did you forget that this is the debate portion of the forums?lowing wrote:
3. I am not whining, never have, you and PrimaCord, and a few others have been the ones being hostile and condescending in this thread. Your problem not mine. I have commented on the original post. Your trouble is, you can't accept it
1. I completely disagree with your FEELINGS
2. You never post any facts to backup your FEELINGS
3. The only thing your good at is twisting the truth and giving half ass answers
I have nothing against you personally. You have the right to FEEL as you do. That doesn't mean that I have to agree with anything that you post. If you don't want people to disagree with you then go post somewhere that everyone shares your point of view. I could think of a few good sites for you to visit.So how is it irrelevant? Could it be that white people don't think as you do? Come on buddy, don't you remember you basically preaching about how the black man has BET and the white man can't do that without being called racist? What are you mad now because its now the white man giving it to the white man? Maybe you are the special white person that dictates how all others should FEEL. The ones who actually own BET and don't mind its mission statement are the people you should have an issue with. Its only people like you and your backwards mentality who believe this is a problem. Tell you what, why don't you show me some facts about how BET is taking away your right to be proud of being white. Sense race is so important to you.lowing wrote:
4. I never really cared who owns BET, really, it is irrelevant, and has nothing to do with the questions posed in reference to BET or any other self proclaimed "black" organization. But hey, ya got 2 white names, so I guess congrats is in order. By the way, if it is OK for "African Americans" to call themselves "black", as in "Black Entertainment Television" why is it offensive for me to call them "black"? just curious.
Also , you failed to comment on BET's mission statement and goals, and whether or not any other network could get away with that, while never being sued for discrimination
And what difference does it matter to you what black people call themselves? I guess that would be infringing on your right to show your white pride as well. Stick to your original arguement and stop attempting to redirect else where.
By the way, you created this post.........so back it up like a man and stop complaining about someone having "condescending" views towards your argument.Now is it me in denial or you? You haven't stated not one FACT to refute any evidence I have put forward. I'm starting to wonder why I even reply to your responses. They are neither intellectual nor construed with any for thought. But I guess they are comical to say the least.lowing wrote:
5. yeah whats the difference. LOL..talk about denialI guess I'll skip six, but what the hell are you talking about in seven? Sorry pal. but if I state minorities, thats what I mean. I choose my words carefully. Now if you want to read something into what I said to attempt to bolster your case, then thats your poragative.lowing wrote:
7. You know as well as I do who EXACTLY, you were talking about when you mention ghettos. If you are going to play innocent about it, then again you are the one being less than honest.
In Houston, TX blacks no longer consist of the largest group living in such circumstances. It is mostly a mixture of many different minority ethnic groups now days. Don't try to put words in my mouth because you have no answer to a question. That is just pathetic to say the least.Look, if you don't know the difference so be it. Go back to school and educate yourself. Once again you miss quote me to try to prove your point. What I said was """"inner cultural racism""""". If you don't understand that a culture is based upon people who share similar experiences and race is generally classified based on skin color then thats your problem. Simply put, there can be different cultures within a race as well as different races within a culture. For instance. You may say your white.........but there are many different cultures within that classification. For instance........Italian, German, Greek, Polish, and Irish just to name a few. Another example would be American culture vs. European culture. If you don't get it by now then you are lost my friend.lowing wrote:
8. Again you fail to explain yourself. You told me there is a difference between culture and race in referring to racism. SO there couldn't possibly be any such thing as "cultural racism" based on your bullshit. To be honest, I know exactly what you are talking about, but I feel I can dissect your words and be just as much as a smart ass as you have been.I'm so glad to hear that you have friends of all different races. [/sarcasm] It only makes me wonder if you spew the same garbage to them as you do in this forum. I'd think not. Funny that a person who states that they look at the race of their neighbors before they move into a neighborhood would have such a large variety of ethnic friends. I guess its OK for you to claim to be their friend but yet they just can't be your neighbor. This has got to be hypocrisy at its finest. Frustrated by you? Please.................lowing wrote:
9. I have been judged by those I work with, live with and socialize with ( yup all my friends, black, white, Jewish Vietnamese, Japanese) and I have no problems. As soon as I start caring what people like you think, I will let ya know. In the mean time just keep feeding me your frustrations
I'll be waiting for your next pathetic attempt to weasel your way out of your previous post
Til then,
Jusster
I didn't forget that this a debate forum and you are free to disagree with me all you want. Have I indicated other wise?? You are the one who is hostile and condescending not me. Maybe you need to remember that this is the debate forum. How boring it would be if we all agreed on everything.
I don't have a problem with BET or united Negro college funds or Ebony magazine or black miss America etc......The original post says that the problem lies in the fact that there would be a problem if whites had the same institutions, I happen to agree with that. If ABC or NBC, or CBS, had a mission statement remotely resembling that of BET, there would be marches and boycotts, and rallies and speeches and a general shit storm. That is the jest of the original post. Nothing more nothing less. Your basic response to this post is."your a racist". I am not a "proud white" guy. I am a guy proud of my achievements. I already told you, if I am prejudice it is a social class prejudice. Example, I want to live in a neighborhood full of respectful, goal driven, personally responsible, families. I look at those qualities as well as every other variable when it comes to buying a house.So yes I look at my neighbors, you call me a racist for it. It just so happens, the ghettos do not fit the bill for me, but on the same hand, neither does the trailer park. Where is the racism in that?? I don't like people with their pants drooped over their asses, on the same hand I don't like freak shows with so much body piercing they look like a pin cushion. Again where is the racism? I have stated before, I will hire a well dressed clean cut well spoken educated black man over some dirty white trash. The point being I will hire for non racial qualities. Affirmative action can not say that. Now call me wrong.
You showed me a link to culture and to race and also a link to 2 white people.........Please don't lecture me on the posting of facts. Your entire responses have been nothing but geared toward hostility and condescending insults. Time to climb off the high horse.
I guess I am the only one that would envision a discussion on ghettos and minorities as a reference to blacks. I am sorry I mis-understood you.
I will try and answer any questions you have for me, as soon as you ask one. Again your posts are full of nothing but insults and condescension. You pose no questions, that are anything other than rhetorical insults.
What I understand is, that in the context of this discussion, race and culture are one package. You are the one with a knife trying to dissect words to prove your point and disprove mine. Back to the ole' definition of "IS".
As a matter of fact I do have discussions like this with my friends, and we generally laugh and make fun of these things. Dave Chapelle does why can't we?
My "minority" buddies are liberal democrats who basically hate Bush and blame him for everything. SO we have a lot of fun trashing each other and our liberal and conservative views on the world.
As a matter of fact you are more a staunch protester against this post than they are. They had a hard time dismissing a lot of the examples the post gave and admit the reverse of a lot of those examples would be construed as racist by them. The agree it is a double standard and can't really defend the reason why it is viewed like that, but they acknowledge it. But again I am not the author I found it a very interesting topic to discuss. I love the fact that by the mere posting of it draws you out and starts calling anyone a racist that dares pose these questions. Very very funny and ironic..
After all that has been said, here is my view on all of this:
I don't hate races or cultures, I hate various ideas, lack of respect for ones self or others, lack of personal responsibility, I judge people by appearance ( not that it is right but it is honest) I look for houses based on resale and everything that affects it, and so do you and so does PrimaCord. I view affirmative action as wrong and as reverse decrimination. I see the orginal post as having some merit asking questions that are worth asking.
