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CommieChipmunk wrote:

mind altering substances

if your life is fucked up enough to want to mess with your brain then be go right ahead...

.. look forward to the shit it serves though.

somewhere they took like 30 harvard grads, gave them a hard math test and the average score was in the 90%s.  They gave them 3 joints a day for a month and the vast majority failed it (i'd look it up but i dont really care). 

so i guess if the rest of your life doesnt require a brain (going into things like politics) then be my guest, otherwise, your jewing yourself out of a lot of life

I smoked my way through college and got my MA in philosophy w/ a 3.8. For whatever that's worth. I,m no genius, so it's not like I lost half my brain capacity and sailed through.
Oh, and I'm quite happy w/ my life. Eudiamonia Via Ataraxia.

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Diogenese wrote:

I smoked my way through college and got my MA in philosophy w/ a 3.8. For whatever that's worth. I,m no genius, so it's not like I lost half my brain capacity and sailed through.
Oh, and I'm quite happy w/ my life. Eudiamonia Via Ataraxia.

Not to be offensive or anything (God knows I do that enough), but a phil. degree is not all that much IMHO, Its really not that hard of a subject, IMHO, You basically just have to think about stuff, and comment on stuff, and make up some bs here and there, and there are hard areas I agree, but for the most part, its a little too....wishy washy.  I'm sure you can do some cool stuff with that degree, but the fact you smoked it up and were able to get a 3.8 on a phil track, doesn't sound like it would be that hard.  Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a CJ/Law major.

I may be a little biased, I have taken a few phil courses, and boy wow the professor was a complete asshole, disrespected my opinions and deviated from the course plan, we didn't read the textbooks and only talked 65% of the time about how Bush is evil and stupid and how the Iraq war is a war for oil and how we are making so much money off of it, and I sit in class and ask for facts and just get flamed.  And I still get no facts.  I don't see how that is logical.  That class kinda fuxed philosophy for me.

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AlbertWesker[RE] wrote "Not to be offensive or anything (God knows I do that enough), but a phil. degree is not all that much IMHO, Its really not that hard of a subject, IMHO, You basically just have to think about stuff, and comment on stuff, and make up some bs here and there, and there are hard areas I agree, but for the most part, its a little too....wishy washy.  I'm sure you can do some cool stuff with that degree, but the fact you smoked it up and were able to get a 3.8 on a phil track, doesn't sound like it would be that hard.  Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a CJ/Law major."
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I am sorry for your bad experience. Philosophy is anything but easy and wishy washy.  It is very organized into disciplines and requires much deep thought and reading. The papers one must write for this subject are lengthy and every attention to detail must be payed. The arguements need not only require logic, but reason and defensibility. It is a great way to start out for law. Speaking of wishy washy. I took many advanced law classes, mainly revolving around Constitutional law and medical ethics, and their is some wishy washy shit. At least to me... pnumbras and such. My point was that an overgeneralization about pot is ignorant, and that many responsible and productive people use it recreationally. I found it helped sometimes getting into Kant and many of the pre-socratics. I think you should sign up for a good modern ethics class or something dealing w/ early philosophy, ie pre-socratics, cuz your Prof. was a douch w/ his own agenda. I specialized in ethics, Utilitarianism, Kantianism, Sartre, and other existentialisits.  It is some deep shit and far from BS. I believe that it is as important as religion is to the faithful.  How to lead a "Good" life has real value and many on this planet could benefit greatly from some reasonable, logical, and just thought about what it is they really believe and if it makes sense. Eudiamonia via ataraxia...  Happiness by way of freedom from pain.
Good luck at school... just what this world needs is more lawyers.
PS. Is it CJ or pre-law?

Last edited by Diogenese (2006-08-24 00:32:31)

Diogenese wrote:

many responsible and productive people use it recreationally

Last edited by TrollmeaT (2006-08-24 04:49:18)

look at how well the dutchies are! weed is legal there, a lot of ppl wont do weed if its legal since a lot of them think its no fun

CronicjoeBlunt wrote:

if drugs were legal, law enforcement would loose millions in funding they currently get to fight it and we all would see a triple increase in the amount of tickets we get as well as the fines amounts for each overnight



Oh yea COPS would probably go off the air too lmao

some drugs are legal... if all drugs are illegal a lot of ppl would be dead by now. marijuana is ok, but other shit like heroin and cocaine is not.

Whose more likely to start a fight and hurt someone, a person whose drunk or a person whose stoned?

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

I am an uber conservative and I think we should legalize pot in America, and tax the living bejeezus out of it.  If you want to get high, than pay extra money, just like taxes on alcohol and cigarrettes.  This would solve a lot of financial issues in some state governments.  Bam!

agreed. marijuana smoking is a fact. legalize it, put tax on it. why should those mafia-wankers get the billions, when the society could have them?

Weed should be decriminalized. You shouldn't be thrown in jail for enjoying a smoke of a natural growing plant in the comfort of your own home doing no one any harm. Booze is 100 times worse.
I would be in favor of legalizing all drugs. As so much crime is created by junkies trying to get money and so much money is spent on cops trying to catch the junkies. If ppl want to be junkies, make the junk clean and available to them so they leave the rest of us alone. The current drug laws haven't stemmed the increase in drug users so a new approach is needed.

   
Deaths from drugs:

   TOBACCO ........................ 400,000
   ALCOHOL ........................ 100,000
   ALL LEGAL DRUGS ................  20,000
   ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS ..............  15,000
   CAFFEINE .......................   2,000
   ASPIRIN ........................     500
   MARIJUANA ......................       0
   ----------------------------------------
   Source: United States government...
           National Institute on Drug Abuse,
           Bureau of Mortality Statistics

Last edited by JahManRed (2006-08-24 05:43:44)

Pubic wrote:

Diogenese wrote:

I smoked my way through college and got my MA in philosophy w/ a 3.8. For whatever that's worth. I,m no genius, so it's not like I lost half my brain capacity and sailed through.
Oh, and I'm quite happy w/ my life. Eudiamonia Via Ataraxia.

Go the philosophy degrees!  Only doing an undergrad (BSc double major with computer science) but am halfway through the phil major!

What part of it did you like the most?  I'm quite fond of logic

Ewwwww.  I hated Logic. All that P&Q BS.  I got through it, lets just say that.
Congrat's, it is a noble discipline. I double majored by BA w/ Psych.
Who's your favorite?  Mine is Nietzche and other Existentialists.
This is a hijacking!!!!

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Ikarti wrote:

Weed turns obnoxious teenagers into obnoxious teenagers that only talk about weed.

And this bothers you how?

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

Diogenese wrote:

I smoked my way through college and got my MA in philosophy w/ a 3.8. For whatever that's worth. I,m no genius, so it's not like I lost half my brain capacity and sailed through.
Oh, and I'm quite happy w/ my life. Eudiamonia Via Ataraxia.

Not to be offensive or anything (God knows I do that enough), but a phil. degree is not all that much IMHO, Its really not that hard of a subject, IMHO, You basically just have to think about stuff, and comment on stuff, and make up some bs here and there, and there are hard areas I agree, but for the most part, its a little too....wishy washy.  I'm sure you can do some cool stuff with that degree, but the fact you smoked it up and were able to get a 3.8 on a phil track, doesn't sound like it would be that hard.  Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a CJ/Law major.

I may be a little biased, I have taken a few phil courses, and boy wow the professor was a complete asshole, disrespected my opinions and deviated from the course plan, we didn't read the textbooks and only talked 65% of the time about how Bush is evil and stupid and how the Iraq war is a war for oil and how we are making so much money off of it, and I sit in class and ask for facts and just get flamed.  And I still get no facts.  I don't see how that is logical.  That class kinda fuxed philosophy for me.

Well I also smoked my way through college and still do to this day.  I have a masters in Mechanical Engineering, I finished with a GPA of 3.4.  And it wasn't easy at all.  Some people it works for and others it doesn't.  Im not saying this to justify smoking.  I am saying it is not as bad as the media makes it out to be nor does it ruin your life.  This happens if you let it control you and you life, the same thing could be said about Alcohol.  Some people are weak and easily influenced by just about anything.  I also agree with you that it would help alot with our debt problem, because the gov't would tax the hell out of it but people would pay, I guess they haven't looked at it like that.

Last edited by Ether151 (2006-08-24 15:02:06)

DesertFox423 wrote:

Sure, it may be true that you can't strictly overdose from puffing the magic dragon, but they do call Mary Jane a "gateway drug." For those of you somehow unfamiliar with the term, you're leading them down a slippery slope into hard core drug use where you can kill yourself. In a sense, I support it to rid our society of the scum who partake in use but not in a practical way. I do enjoy watching doped-out teens and losers getting busted on Cops and Disorderly Conduct, though.

Slippery slope?  Actually, cigarettes and alcohol are the true gateway drugs. 
I am, again, a test case. I have tried a lot of other drugs, but none to my liking. I like pot and that's it. I started w/ cigarettes, then alcohol, then pot, etc. So maybe you should think before you type. Are you christian? Are you southern? Are you a Republican? Are you a Nazi? You sound it. Rid our society of the scum? These are real people with productive and happy lives. You sir need an education and some cooth!

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