Lith
Member
+0|6937
^^^^^^^^ 
CptAssKisser

He did not win did debate dude he got POWNED for his shallow minded thinking.

People unhappy with the game  >>>>> CptAssKisser and Fan Boys

POWNED.
Rogness
The English Redneck
+10|7252|Plymouth, England

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

Rogness wrote:

I cannot, for one minute, believe that you are totally happy with the game Trig998, and if you don't complain about it then nothing will get done about it.  Is that what you want?  You want 2142 to come riddled with red name bugs?  You wanna pay another £30 (or whatever it is in $'s) for a game that CTD's 3 or 4 times before you join a server?  You want the server to freeze just as you're getting going and dump you back to the menu?  I sure as fuck don't and I bet nobody else does either.  Hence the complaints.  EA/DICE make a lot of money from this game (regardless of your agrument about deadlines. Deadlines exist to make money - profit margins and all that), and the least they could try and do is make it work better.  Some things haven't been fixed from it's original release and, considering we're 5 or so patches in, that's unforgivable - I wouldn't expect it from other games and therefore I don't expect it from this.
Believe it, because I am 100% happy with this game. I was 100% happy with Battlefield 1942, I was 100% happy with Battlefield Vietnam, I am 100% happy with Battlefield 2, and I will be 100% happy with Battlefield 2142. Why? Because I play the game and don't complain. Everyone looks for the faults. Then they look for someone to blame for these faults. Perhaps it's time to stop looking at the faults and focus on the good parts of the game. Maybe the fact that this is really the only game in which you can use a large array of different vehicles. Or maybe the large stat system that keeps track of over a million accounts?

You forget that Battlefield 2 version 1.0 was one of the best games ever. Then what happened? People complained. There was nothing wrong with 1.0 as far as I'm concerned. And so DICE tried to make everyone happy. Instead they got more complaints. What more do you expect from them? If you hate the game the way it is now, you shouldn't have complained about the way it was then.
That's cool dude, glad you enjoy the game - I do too, but like I said; it doesn't work properly for me.

I never said I hated the game - that wasn't the point of my post.  I really like it as a matter of fact - I love it when it loads properly, but I'm getting sick of the crashes, and the fact that I like it makes me even more peeved.  I want to play this game and it's real hard sometimes - I paid £30 for it and thus I want to complain.  If 1.4 fixes all the stability issues then you won't hear me bitch, but until then, I feel I have right and reason to moan if I want to, and I think a BF2 forum is a pretty appropriate place to do it.
ComradeWho
Member
+50|7143|Southern California
that was the stupidest post i've ever read

you have no conception of the rights of the consumer. if i pay money for a product and it doesn't deliver it's intended function i have every right to complain or more.  if people continue to buy EA products after this they are certainly stupid - EA won't get any more of my money.  But if this is a "buyer beware" situation then EA is not deserving of the type of respect that you say consumers owe to them.  this game does not deliver it's advertised features and they've even effected it's functioning.  i think that if this were a car company that released a car with a fundamental flaw and consumers were either writing to a car magazing or posting on a forum complaining you would certainly look foolish saying "without them we wouldn't even have a car to complain about, and without cars we wouldn't have this great magazine to complain in - so just remember that.  their huge profits aren't that much because car companies have so many salaries to pay, and making cars is hard by the way."  In my eyes you look foolish now as well.
InnerMonkey
Member
+62|7167
The OP is a twisted bit of logic. 

In that light, I shouldn't feel bad if I buy a new car and it leaves me stranded on the freeway.  Afterall, I'm sure they have deadlines, and it's expensive to make cares I bet.  I'm just glad they met their deadline and didn't sweat the details of provided a product as advertised. 

It's too bad I got food poisoning at Shoneys.  Afterall, they only give the cook 10 minutes to prepare my steak.  I'm sure they cooked it as long as they could.  Even though they caused me to get sick, I won't complain.  I'm sure they tried hard.  Without Shoney's, I couldn't eat at Shoney's.

A company has an obligation to provide a product that is 'as advertised' and functions as it should.  As a matter of fact, if a company screws up too bad, they get in trouble.  Hell, McDonald's got in trouble for a burger not looking like a picture.  ....a 2 dollar burger.

People spent money to buy this game, and they are entitled to a product that works.  If EA/Dice can't live up to a user's expectations, then that user have EVERY RIGHT TO COMPLAIN.  It's okay though, you don't have to like that fact.  You can actually disagree, and this is a great place to discuss it.  Afterall, without the users, this site wouldn't be here.
im_in_heaven
Member
+27|7036
well i agree but not on everything. You cannot compare running a company and the functions of a company to writing assignments for school. And it is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY since EA has a legal obligation to their investors to raise their profits. On the other hand everyone should stop whining so much its not going to help anything. i personally am upset by the poor quality of this latest patch and have a top end computer that now takes 10 mins to load one map where it used to take 30 seconds to load in 1.2.  1.3 has ruined my gaming experience and since i did pay money for it i expect it to be adressed. and the comment about suiing. Sure you can sue them its your legal right to sue. In fact youll probably get something out of it since they will just settle with you and pay you money to shut up.
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6966|Montucky

InnerMonkey wrote:

The OP is a twisted bit of logic. 

In that light, I shouldn't feel bad if I buy a new car and it leaves me stranded on the freeway.  Afterall, I'm sure they have deadlines, and it's expensive to make cares I bet.  I'm just glad they met their deadline and didn't sweat the details of provided a product as advertised. 

It's too bad I got food poisoning at Shoneys.  Afterall, they only give the cook 10 minutes to prepare my steak.  I'm sure they cooked it as long as they could.  Even though they caused me to get sick, I won't complain.  I'm sure they tried hard.  Without Shoney's, I couldn't eat at Shoney's.

A company has an obligation to provide a product that is 'as advertised' and functions as it should.  As a matter of fact, if a company screws up too bad, they get in trouble.  Hell, McDonald's got in trouble for a burger not looking like a picture.  ....a 2 dollar burger.

People spent money to buy this game, and they are entitled to a product that works.  If EA/Dice can't live up to a user's expectations, then that user have EVERY RIGHT TO COMPLAIN.  It's okay though, you don't have to like that fact.  You can actually disagree, and this is a great place to discuss it.  Afterall, without the users, this site wouldn't be here.
Mmmm Good Call.

The only thing i complain about and have the right to do so is, CTDs. I've never played a game that has caused CTDs more than once in a year unlike BF2(now a days).  You'd think that EA/DICE/whoeverthefuck would say to themselves, Whoa this is bullshit, we should make a hotfix NOW to resolve this problem so we don't lose our fan base and create a fancy new and improved with all the goodies v1.4 later.

IMO. EA/DICE need to take a lesson in Game Making/keeping the fans happy from Valve/Sierra.
ShotYourSix
Boldly going nowhere...
+196|7167|Las Vegas
I didn't really mind Trigger's OP.  It was when he insisted that there was nothing wrong with the game, that it ran just fine on the developer machines, and that the only problems were a result of low spec computers and user failure to keep a machine running properly.  That's when I got bothered about it.  He can love the game all he wants (hell we all do at some level), but to say that ALL problems are user problems and none are game client problems is just hogwash.

If we apply his logic to Innermonkeys post, he would be saying that:

1. There was nothing wrong with the car.  After all, if he has that car and it did not break down then yours was poorly maintained and should have been taken care of better.
2. There was nothing wrong with the food.  After all, if he ate at Shoney's and didn't get sick then you simply have a problem with your digestive tract.

Whatever.  He's just pissed off about all the bitching and is excersising his right to vent.  Same as we all do now and then when BF2 pisses us off one time too many.  Kinda ironic though dont you think?

Last edited by ShotYourSix (2006-08-10 17:02:01)

Tripp
I wanna be on you
+116|6975|So Cal
a lot of fanbois in this thread...
aqempty
Member
+6|6954|international waters
but i think with bf1942 there was more bug fixes, versions were stable, and THEY CREATED MORE NEW MAPS AND WEARPONS WITHOUT PAYIG MORE than bf2
ComradeWho
Member
+50|7143|Southern California

aqempty wrote:

but i think with bf1942 there was more bug fixes, versions were stable, and THEY CREATED MORE NEW MAPS AND WEARPONS WITHOUT PAYIG MORE than bf2
shh!! don't talk about what EA does...

They spend a lot of time making these games.  They're quite good at it, if you just learn to appreciate it.  They don't make very much money either.  In fact, without them, you wouldn't have a game to begin with, so why bring money into this?  It's much better for poor little EA to have that money regardless of what they release, consider it a donation to the less advantaged.  People always complain but I think "wow, I am so lucky to be able to buy a product I should just be grateful for having it no matter what.  After all, if we didn't have this shitty product to complain about we wouldn't have great places like this where administrators tell us to stop complaining.
{TL}SHARPSHOOTER
Vacuum Sealed for Freshness
+26|7193|The Island of Carls Jr.
Well I kinda agree with Trig, there are lots of good games out there why not play them (unless you dont wanna spend lots of money) but the thing is EA/DICE or whoever makes the patches just put lotsa fancy ranks, which is good, but instead of trying to fix old problems. But I wonder if the bf2 developers are getting any of this ranting, and I wonder how many people would stop playing BF2 after 1.4 comes out and puts 3 BRAND NEW problems...
ghostgr
177th Field Artillery
+39|7189|In your head

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

ghostgr wrote:

TriggerHappy998 wrote:


I think you have compeltely missed the point of my post. No where did I say for people to leave the forum.

Also, I absolutely NEVER cry hacker in-game or otherwise. I hardly even use the chat feature.
That is not what I said. I said that if you do not like people bitching about a game in the forums or don't like the people:

1-leave
2-ignore it
3-close topic and tell them to stop complaing (nicely) cuz everyone knows about
4- and just for fun......get rid of complaints section that will reduce alot of them.
Your forum title doesn't lie

You said I should take my own advice about leaving the forum.

?

No where I said for people to leave the forum. You're peeing on your own feet.
DAmn you are stupid......even stupider than me. I know that you said no where for people to leave forum. I was talking about how you said that if people do not like the game to stop playing it. I was telling you that if you do not like what is being said/done on the forums to:

1-leave
2-ignore it
3-close topic and tell them to stop complaing (nicely) cuz everyone knows about
4- and just for fun......get rid of complaints section that will reduce alot of them.

So ya know man you say I am stupid? You can't even grasp the concept of just dealing with whiners.
TriggerHappy998
just nothing
+387|7296|-

ghostgr wrote:

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

ghostgr wrote:


That is not what I said. I said that if you do not like people bitching about a game in the forums or don't like the people:

1-leave
2-ignore it
3-close topic and tell them to stop complaing (nicely) cuz everyone knows about
4- and just for fun......get rid of complaints section that will reduce alot of them.
Your forum title doesn't lie

You said I should take my own advice about leaving the forum.

?

No where I said for people to leave the forum. You're peeing on your own feet.
DAmn you are stupid......even stupider than me. I know that you said no where for people to leave forum. I was talking about how you said that if people do not like the game to stop playing it. I was telling you that if you do not like what is being said/done on the forums to:

1-leave
2-ignore it
3-close topic and tell them to stop complaing (nicely) cuz everyone knows about
4- and just for fun......get rid of complaints section that will reduce alot of them.

So ya know man you say I am stupid? You can't even grasp the concept of just dealing with whiners.
And you can't seem to grasp the concept that you were putting words in my mouth.
jord
Member
+2,382|7126|The North, beyond the wall.

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

ghostgr wrote:

TriggerHappy998 wrote:


Your forum title doesn't lie

You said I should take my own advice about leaving the forum.

?

No where I said for people to leave the forum. You're peeing on your own feet.
DAmn you are stupid......even stupider than me. I know that you said no where for people to leave forum. I was talking about how you said that if people do not like the game to stop playing it. I was telling you that if you do not like what is being said/done on the forums to:

1-leave
2-ignore it
3-close topic and tell them to stop complaing (nicely) cuz everyone knows about
4- and just for fun......get rid of complaints section that will reduce alot of them.

So ya know man you say I am stupid? You can't even grasp the concept of just dealing with whiners.
And you can't seem to grasp the concept that you were putting words in my mouth.
I sense tension in your post.
Harmonics
A stabbing fatality
+22|6951
I've been saying its about deadlines since I came here.

I'm in the gaming industry and it can be fucking hell getting something done on time. EA push dice to get things finished because theyve got these deadlines to meet, if they dont meet them, they lose money.

EA have to publish a game, all over the world. Thats a lot of shelf space for that game, if EA miss the deadline theyre supposed to have the game in the shops, they lose all the shelf space and it ends up going to another game. Retailers get annoyed and might not even allocate as much space next time in fear they wont reach the deadline again.

EA lose money, cant afford to pay salaries and make games, they fire people. EA just care that BF2 is out, it's had a hell of a lot of people buy it, so 2142 is actually just a thing to make money money theyve been losing, theyve got the base with the BF2 engine so they dont have to rework anything drastic. Don't have to spend much money, get a team to do the skins etc and you've got a new game in no time. "officially" its not a mod, but it is really. EA are just pushing it  as a new game and hope they'll make more money from Average Joe who doesnt know anything about what EA are doing

Last edited by Harmonics (2006-08-11 08:48:28)

Harmonics
A stabbing fatality
+22|6951

Rogness wrote:

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

I cannot, for one minute, believe that you are totally happy with the game Trig998, and if you don't complain about it then nothing will get done about it.  Is that what you want?  You want 2142 to come riddled with red name bugs?  You wanna pay another £30 (or whatever it is in $'s) for a game that CTD's 3 or 4 times before you join a server?  You want the server to freeze just as you're getting going and dump you back to the menu?  I sure as fuck don't and I bet nobody else does either.  Hence the complaints.  EA/DICE make a lot of money from this game (regardless of your agrument about deadlines. Deadlines exist to make money - profit margins and all that), and the least they could try and do is make it work better.  Some things haven't been fixed from it's original release and, considering we're 5 or so patches in, that's unforgivable - I wouldn't expect it from other games and therefore I don't expect it from this.
Believe it, because I am 100% happy with this game. I was 100% happy with Battlefield 1942, I was 100% happy with Battlefield Vietnam, I am 100% happy with Battlefield 2, and I will be 100% happy with Battlefield 2142. Why? Because I play the game and don't complain. Everyone looks for the faults. Then they look for someone to blame for these faults. Perhaps it's time to stop looking at the faults and focus on the good parts of the game. Maybe the fact that this is really the only game in which you can use a large array of different vehicles. Or maybe the large stat system that keeps track of over a million accounts?

You forget that Battlefield 2 version 1.0 was one of the best games ever. Then what happened? People complained. There was nothing wrong with 1.0 as far as I'm concerned. And so DICE tried to make everyone happy. Instead they got more complaints. What more do you expect from them? If you hate the game the way it is now, you shouldn't have complained about the way it was then.
So you're 100% happy when your game CTD's for the 5th time in a row? and when the server crashes with 10 tickets to go and you lose 100 points or a new kill streak? You're right, BF2 1.0 was good, needed a few things ironing out but it was the best the games been.
topthrill05
Member
+125|7026|Rochester NY USA

Harmonics wrote:

I've been saying its about deadlines since I came here.

I'm in the gaming industry and it can be fucking hell getting something done on time. EA push dice to get things finished because theyve got these deadlines to meet, if they dont meet them, they lose money.

EA have to publish a game, all over the world. Thats a lot of shelf space for that game, if EA miss the deadline theyre supposed to have the game in the shops, they lose all the shelf space and it ends up going to another game. Retailers get annoyed and might not even allocate as much space next time in fear they wont reach the deadline again.

EA lose money, cant afford to pay salaries and make games, they fire people. EA just care that BF2 is out, it's had a hell of a lot of people buy it, so 2142 is actually just a thing to make money money theyve been losing, theyve got the base with the BF2 engine so they dont have to rework anything drastic. Don't have to spend much money, get a team to do the skins etc and you've got a new game in no time. "officially" its not a mod, but it is really. EA are just pushing it  as a new game and hope they'll make more money from Average Joe who doesnt know anything about what EA are doing
I will be getting the game and I know what I am doing.
ghostgr
177th Field Artillery
+39|7189|In your head

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

ghostgr wrote:

TriggerHappy998 wrote:


Your forum title doesn't lie

You said I should take my own advice about leaving the forum.

?

No where I said for people to leave the forum. You're peeing on your own feet.
DAmn you are stupid......even stupider than me. I know that you said no where for people to leave forum. I was talking about how you said that if people do not like the game to stop playing it. I was telling you that if you do not like what is being said/done on the forums to:

1-leave
2-ignore it
3-close topic and tell them to stop complaing (nicely) cuz everyone knows about
4- and just for fun......get rid of complaints section that will reduce alot of them.

So ya know man you say I am stupid? You can't even grasp the concept of just dealing with whiners.
And you can't seem to grasp the concept that you were putting words in my mouth.
WTF?! are you talking about? What words did I "put" in your mouth? Only thing you ever had put in your mouth was penis.
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7045|Seattle

ghostgr wrote:

WTF?! are you talking about? What words did I "put" in your mouth? Only thing you ever had put in your mouth was penis.
omgbanndinated.errrsumfing
pictures? just to make it official?

>>>> I'm walking away now... *whistle whistle*

Last edited by King_County_Downy (2006-08-11 17:34:49)

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
ghostgr
177th Field Artillery
+39|7189|In your head
I don't care if I get banned from here big deal. triggerhappy is just mad that the whiners get there way....and well i am too but there is no reason to make a big stink about it. By the way I have seen him flame people and he doesn't get into trouble? Man they need a new mod or something......and alot of people complain about him but chuy doesn't do anything.....not blaming chuy but maybe trigger needs a vacation from the forums?

Last edited by ghostgr (2006-08-11 17:51:48)

TriggerHappy998
just nothing
+387|7296|-

Harmonics wrote:

Rogness wrote:

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

I cannot, for one minute, believe that you are totally happy with the game Trig998, and if you don't complain about it then nothing will get done about it.  Is that what you want?  You want 2142 to come riddled with red name bugs?  You wanna pay another £30 (or whatever it is in $'s) for a game that CTD's 3 or 4 times before you join a server?  You want the server to freeze just as you're getting going and dump you back to the menu?  I sure as fuck don't and I bet nobody else does either.  Hence the complaints.  EA/DICE make a lot of money from this game (regardless of your agrument about deadlines. Deadlines exist to make money - profit margins and all that), and the least they could try and do is make it work better.  Some things haven't been fixed from it's original release and, considering we're 5 or so patches in, that's unforgivable - I wouldn't expect it from other games and therefore I don't expect it from this.
Believe it, because I am 100% happy with this game. I was 100% happy with Battlefield 1942, I was 100% happy with Battlefield Vietnam, I am 100% happy with Battlefield 2, and I will be 100% happy with Battlefield 2142. Why? Because I play the game and don't complain. Everyone looks for the faults. Then they look for someone to blame for these faults. Perhaps it's time to stop looking at the faults and focus on the good parts of the game. Maybe the fact that this is really the only game in which you can use a large array of different vehicles. Or maybe the large stat system that keeps track of over a million accounts?

You forget that Battlefield 2 version 1.0 was one of the best games ever. Then what happened? People complained. There was nothing wrong with 1.0 as far as I'm concerned. And so DICE tried to make everyone happy. Instead they got more complaints. What more do you expect from them? If you hate the game the way it is now, you shouldn't have complained about the way it was then.
So you're 100% happy when your game CTD's for the 5th time in a row? and when the server crashes with 10 tickets to go and you lose 100 points or a new kill streak? You're right, BF2 1.0 was good, needed a few things ironing out but it was the best the games been.
Yes, because it doesn't seem to happen to me. I don't even remember the last time I crashed.
TriggerHappy998
just nothing
+387|7296|-

ghostgr wrote:

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

ghostgr wrote:


DAmn you are stupid......even stupider than me. I know that you said no where for people to leave forum. I was talking about how you said that if people do not like the game to stop playing it. I was telling you that if you do not like what is being said/done on the forums to:

1-leave
2-ignore it
3-close topic and tell them to stop complaing (nicely) cuz everyone knows about
4- and just for fun......get rid of complaints section that will reduce alot of them.

So ya know man you say I am stupid? You can't even grasp the concept of just dealing with whiners.
And you can't seem to grasp the concept that you were putting words in my mouth.
WTF?! are you talking about? What words did I "put" in your mouth? Only thing you ever had put in your mouth was penis.
I was waiting for you to slip up somewhere. Enjoy your 3 day ban
NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6917

Ok... I was too lazy to even read trough the first page put I totally agree with TriggerHappy with this. What's the point to complain and complain and complain, those bugs won't kill you.

Anyways, what you lose when server randomly crashes? Points? Awards? Promotions? So what... They are just pixels on your screen if you got them once you should be able to get them again.
https://i.imgur.com/S9bg2.png
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7164

NooBesT[FiN] wrote:

Ok... I was too lazy to even read trough the first page put I totally agree with TriggerHappy with this. What's the point to complain and complain and complain, those bugs won't kill you.

Anyways, what you lose when server randomly crashes? Points? Awards? Promotions? So what... They are just pixels on your screen if you got them once you should be able to get them again.
yeah some pixels on a screen... sometimes its really a bitch to lose an expert badge that took you a shitload of time getting, its also a bitch to wait till your favorite server is back up, its even more a bitch that if your admin you have to try and get it backup
https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png
Rogness
The English Redneck
+10|7252|Plymouth, England

NooBesT[FiN] wrote:

Ok... I was too lazy to even read trough the first page put I totally agree with TriggerHappy with this. What's the point to complain and complain and complain, those bugs won't kill you.

Anyways, what you lose when server randomly crashes? Points? Awards? Promotions? So what... They are just pixels on your screen if you got them once you should be able to get them again.
Couldn't give a monkeys about the awards, points, etc.  Could give a monkeys about the fact it crashes ALL THE DAMN TIME and it's a massive, frustrating, inconvenience when it does.  Sure, they don't kill me - but they do completely ruin my enjoyment of the game, and for me, that's critical.  I don't play the game to get awards, I play to have fun but at the moment I can't have fun cos I can't play it.

And at Trig - I still don't believe you're 100% happy with the game cos from you posts you seem to prefer the older versions...

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