Freedom is only worth something if you have the money to educate yourself enough to use it.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Not particularly - I don't believe in communism so why would I tire of it?Horseman 77 wrote:
ever get tired of this line?... communisim is dead, move on.CameronPoe wrote:
I'm not talking about free in the democratic sense - I'm talking about being unfree in terms of the overwhelming concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, with no signs of that changing, i.e. the corporate conquest of Latin America keeping the poor poor and the rich rich. Democracy is ill-equipped to combat this.
It was the man's irish Blood he couldn't help but be a rebel
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Oh yeah thats what they're trying to do... or maybe you've seen Miami Vice one too many times.Erkut.hv wrote:
a loose federation of coca leaf-growing campesinos who are resisting the efforts of the United States government to eradicate coca in the province of Chapare in southeastern Bolivia.
If any government in the world, let alone the most powerfull one - the US g. - trully wanted to eradicate drugs they would've done so long ago. Truth is they maintain it and largely profit from it.
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So than what is equipped to combat this. I see hardly any other better alternatives than democracy........CameronPoe wrote:
Not particularly - I don't believe in communism so why would I tire of it?Horseman 77 wrote:
ever get tired of this line?... communisim is dead, move on.CameronPoe wrote:
I'm not talking about free in the democratic sense - I'm talking about being unfree in terms of the overwhelming concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, with no signs of that changing, i.e. the corporate conquest of Latin America keeping the poor poor and the rich rich. Democracy is ill-equipped to combat this.
Socialism? No
Fascism? Hell No
Communism? I'll take fascism thanks.
And..........source?oug wrote:
Truth is they maintain it and largely profit from it.
Sorry I don't see any amount of significant money coming from drugs (other than pharmaceuticals). I've been a long supporter of legalizing Marijuana and possibly other drugs, and taxing the living bejeezus out of them. If the government is making money of drugs, than thats less pressure on the taxpayers.
someone get me a hugo chavez t-shirt. POR FAVOR
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someone get me a hugo chavez t-shirt. POR FAVOR
Here you can put this image on the shirt, it'll look great.
Or this will do.
Before opening a topic search the net. I don't agree with some of the things Che did, but you have to believe in what you do when you are born in one of the richest families of Argentina, and you decide to leave all the money behind to fight for your ideals.Ikarti wrote:
Alright. So I've noticed the Che sig wars going on. Good stuff. Now most of you know me as a flametroll/liberal/piece of shit/fag/islamofacist/etc. (none of which I really claim to be, though Islamofacist has a nice ring to it), however, I think Che was really nothing more than a murderer who at the very least is an extremely overrated individual. He got his hands cut off and burying under a runway in the end. Ironic that the picture of him has become a prime example of capitalism.
So your views. Or a forum to call each other names over the subject. Begin.
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I'm afraid there are no sources for this. Please don't play dum. You know they take it under the table, and you know this money has nothing to do with taxes because nobody is suposed to know that this deal is going down between the government and the drugdealers.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
And..........source?oug wrote:
Truth is they maintain it and largely profit from it.
Sorry I don't see any amount of significant money coming from drugs (other than pharmaceuticals). I've been a long supporter of legalizing Marijuana and possibly other drugs, and taxing the living bejeezus out of them. If the government is making money of drugs, than thats less pressure on the taxpayers.
Btw legalizing and taxing sounds fine, but not all drugs... just pot and maybe even coke in some extreme scenario.
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Socialism yes. Or else a complete start from scratch (implausible) because the rotten cores of these failed states cannot progress until the institutionalised corruption is eradicated and playing fields are levelled. The poverty gulfs cannot be addressed through capitalism - that only worsens or perpetuatues the problem. Capitalism is necessary for the growth of a country however - as such starting from scratch and building up the country from basics with a more social form of capitalism would save Latin America. Unfortunately that cannot and will not ever happen.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
So than what is equipped to combat this. I see hardly any other better alternatives than democracy........CameronPoe wrote:
Not particularly - I don't believe in communism so why would I tire of it?Horseman 77 wrote:
ever get tired of this line?... communisim is dead, move on.
Socialism? No
Fascism? Hell No
Communism? I'll take fascism thanks.
there was never a true communist country
Sorry, both wrong. Perfectly competitive or monopolistically competitive markets would take care of this. As well as the disbandment of corporate ownership of stocks or assets. The reason the rich are rich and poor are poor is found in the large corporate oligopolies and monopolies. Which are generally special interest groups which gain support from politicians. The less control the government has to grant privilages, the better. Socialism would likely fall prey to corruption by spcial interest groups much like democracy has.CameronPoe wrote:
Socialism yes. Or else a complete start from scratch (implausible) because the rotten cores of these failed states cannot progress until the institutionalised corruption is eradicated and playing fields are levelled. The poverty gulfs cannot be addressed through capitalism - that only worsens or perpetuatues the problem. Capitalism is necessary for the growth of a country however - as such starting from scratch and building up the country from basics with a more social form of capitalism would save Latin America. Unfortunately that cannot and will not ever happen.AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:
So than what is equipped to combat this. I see hardly any other better alternatives than democracy........CameronPoe wrote:
Not particularly - I don't believe in communism so why would I tire of it?
Socialism? No
Fascism? Hell No
Communism? I'll take fascism thanks.
Dude I am impressed ! Well done.
Dont you call us "dude", dude.Horseman 77 wrote:
Dude I am impressed ! Well done.
This is debate and serious talk !
Call us : right honorable gentleman !
Love, Margaret.