BF2S Forums If American Indian's still owned America?

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Nope doesn't help the question of this post. We actually finally got one answer does anyone else have any ideas on it?

I know not the thread m8, why do you think i've quoted you with that post, posted that because of your last line in the quoted post.

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Yup it was a society Based on living with the land, and say the Europeans didn't discover it? What kinda progress do you think the Natives of this land would have made by now? Indianscout please your input would be most beneficial in this discussion..

European's didn't know anything about a lot of the world back then.

maybe this will help ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Exploration

This might help as well ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Ame … ted_States

to ask what it would be like if American Indians still owned America implies that they ever did own America.  Such an implication is entirely a misunderstanding of their very nature.  They had no system of ownership and never viewed themselves as owners of the land, or anything really.

PuckMercury wrote:

to ask what it would be like if American Indians still owned America implies that they ever did own America.  Such an implication is entirely a misunderstanding of their very nature.  They had no system of ownership and never viewed themselves as owners of the land, or anything really.

thats a myth

lol

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

Abraham Lincoln...

In 1862, President Abraham Lincoln ordered the execution, by hanging, of 38 Dakota Sioux prisoners in Mankato, Minnesota. Most of those executed were holy men or political leaders of their camps. None of them were responsible for committing the crimes they were accused of. Coined as the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History. (Brown, Dee. BURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE. New York: Holt, Rinehart, Winston, 1970. pp. 59-61)

Lincoln was a shitty President. He was the first to piss on the Constitution, and now we've got old Dubya carrying on his Republican bullshit tradition.

But to stay on topic:

Even before the "official" colonialization of the Americas, people had been coming here for ages. Be it the Vikings, Polynesian [sic] or Asians. Look at the Eskimo's, they have an Asian look about them. Where as alot of the Eastern/Southern American and Canadian Indians have European features. Someone would've ended up making an organized empire of this land. It could've been the Natives through a great leader and organizer. Or it could've been foriegn settlers.

PuckMercury wrote:

not a myth.  The "sale" of a territory was based on their agreement to no longer occupy said territory.

Whether or not you truly are the illustrious IndianScout, to try and purport yourself as him conveys more than a little bit of ignorance (who the hell would want to be IndianScout?), so excuse me if I don't particularly take to heart your opinion on the matter.

being born and raised on my reservation it's a little more than just an uneducated opinion it's fact..

do some research before stating what you think is fact

learn dont be abba'moo'gii...  there are enough diid'a'foo in this world...

Indian

» If American Indian's still owned America?
There would be casino's EVERYWHERE!.. Woohoo

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

indian nations while alot of them do have casinos ours included, provide much needed employment to communities who's unemployment rates average about 45-80%

most tribal nations dont get rich off the casino's like the public seems to think we do, nor do we all get those "free" govt checks another myth..

The San Manuel Indian Nation of 200 or so members do quite well... albeit most American Indians are not well off.

But as for the OP question, well, my guess would be that the Nazi's would have ruled the world (what with no industrialized USA to fight them).  Considering most indians were pre-disposed to "living with the land", I doubt that they would have progressed as far as the Europeans in developing weapons of mass destruction.

Last edited by Ilocano (2006-07-31 15:05:11)

They would have been taken over by someone else, they were far too kind hearted , at least most of them before they knew what the white man was & had to defend themselves.
They had the chance to let the first pilgrims starve but they fed them out of kindness of human spirit.
It's like the noob in Civ IV that doesn't know how to build, they just got slaughtered.
This is an example of what we would do to a new culture or species, we are still far to young to have so much responsibility, we will have to mature quickly if we are to survive.
And lets not even bring up the Eskimos, our culture destroyed their way of life & turned them into drunks.
Sorry I'm getting off topic.

We must never let mistakes like this happen again for we had much to learn from the Indians that is forever lost now.

Last edited by TrollmeaT (2006-07-31 15:23:00)

TrollmeaT wrote:

And lets not even bring up the Eskimos, our culture destroyed their way of life & turned them into drunks.
Sorry I'm getting off topic.

You're too PC to make such broad and prejudiced generalizations.

They would still be as we found them, a few scattered communities of stone age, semi nomadic, scavenger hunters, that occasionally war with each other, living near a water supply. As would be the case in Africa most of south east Asia and Australia, eventually Japan or China would have reached them if the Europeans hadn't and their fates would have been far worse.

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

They would still be as we found them, a few scattered communities of stone age, semi nomadic, scavenger hunters, that occasionally war with each other, living near a water supply. As would be the case in Africa most of south east Asia and Australia, eventually Japan or China would have reached them if the Europeans hadn't and their fates would have been far worse.

I really can't imagine what could be 'far worse' than the atrocities committed by Europeans in slave trading times.  Care to enlighten me?  I hope it's not going to involve your basement and a pig again.

You didnt have fun with that Boar? he keeps asking for you?

Look at Japans ocupation of China till 1945 that should keep you busy.

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:dude drugs are your ONLY future lol !

I don't take drugs anymore.

Too Late ! Rotflmao

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Horseman I read in an other thread that you thought you were the funniest person you know. You really need to go out and make some friends, one is a lonely number.

One ?  You should know ! I am waiting to meet my new tennents. They will be moving into this NYC condo.
I bought a new house for my two kids.  When we move into it we will all be hunting your ass in BF2. Dont worry about us we have a blast !