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well we want to space travel because we humans always want to explore beyond what we know, like how europeans set on ships and went to discover new land. but about antimatter... its expensive to create and we cant use it as an energy source right now, there is nothing to power it

I see space travel as mandatory for humans to survive.
We all should thank the U.S. space program for the tech used to build these desktop computers.
The spinoff technology makes the endevor worthwhile if nothing else does.

Last edited by Alexanderthegrape (2006-07-23 22:27:01)

Anybody heard of the Mobius Continuum? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moebius_Strip

This theory, or something like it is what is required to travel through space.

Basically describing a way to "surf the wormholes" for interdimensional space travel.

Last edited by Alexanderthegrape (2006-07-23 22:35:49)

We need to get off this planet, since humanity can't survive here forever. I think we should establish a lunar colony. We have the technology to do great things, and we should do them. One of these days, one of the "near miss" asteroids we keep hearing about is going to take a wrong turn at mars and we are all going to be in for a bad day.

That is, if we don't destroy the planet ourselves first.

I am a firm believer that humanity is capable of great things, if only we would stop bickering for DUMBASS reasons.


ps: Nuclear is EXTREMELY SAFE. Its just that when a reactor has a malfunction its REALLY bad. Compared to a couple of nuclear disasters we all know about, how many people have died mining coal over the last couple of centuries? Or what about oil rig workers? Not a safe job.  And don't forget power plant fires are relatively common in the world of "fossil fuels"

And before you start questioning my opinions, know that I live in the "footprint" of a nuclear power station.

Travel through space would need a new technology which doesn't exist yet or ever.

Because if you can use the full energy of matter (like in matter/antimatter annihilation) you would need
half of your spaceship to accelerate at 1/4 light speed and the other half to break again.
With that speed you will need at least 16 years to travel to the next (quite boring) star. If you want to come back again it would need 32 years. Also near light speed time will change (sorry, don't know the exact formulae) but earth will be much older than you.

So, no chance currently, but maybe wormholes or warpdrives really exist.

But a trip to Mars may become possible, but makes no real sense (too cold, almost no atmosphere). Maybe we can send some bacteria to Venus to convert the CO2 to O2 and cool it down.

Hawk

Put some colonists in stasis pods, put a bunch of them on a ship, and fire them off in random directions

Seriously though, we should explore and colonize our solar system, learn what we can about long term life in space, try out new technology, etc., and eventually send a manned mission outside the solar system (it'll probably be a one way trip, but I know for a fact there are enough curious and qualified people out there who would volunteer for such a thing).

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{DsM}SongofWar[BoC] wrote:

We need to get off this planet, since humanity can't survive here forever. I think we should establish a lunar colony. We have the technology to do great things, and we should do them. One of these days, one of the "near miss" asteroids we keep hearing about is going to take a wrong turn at mars and we are all going to be in for a bad day.

That is, if we don't destroy the planet ourselves first.

I am a firm believer that humanity is capable of great things, if only we would stop bickering for DUMBASS reasons.


ps: Nuclear is EXTREMELY SAFE. Its just that when a reactor has a malfunction its REALLY bad. Compared to a couple of nuclear disasters we all know about, how many people have died mining coal over the last couple of centuries? Or what about oil rig workers? Not a safe job.  And don't forget power plant fires are relatively common in the world of "fossil fuels"

And before you start questioning my opinions, know that I live in the "footprint" of a nuclear power station.

Its creepy, becuase i could not agree with you more.... nice post! +1

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Last edited by Alexanderthegrape (2006-07-24 08:56:39)

That, and for a zillion other reasons, is why we must look at wormhole creation or use, as the way to travel through space.
It sounds crazy, I know.   Edgar Casey claimed to use interdimensional passages to do his work.

might as well do it, what the fuck else are we gona do?

Kaosdad008 wrote:

When talking about space travel, folks always focus on propulsion.  There is another, equally important problem:  space junk.  Not only "human debris" but just small chunks of rock floating out there naturally.  Ever wonder what that big dish was on the Enterprise?  It was a shield emitter that cleared crap out of the way of the ship.  As Roddenberry put it; "At warp speed, something the size of a pebble would rip a hole in the Entrprise saucer big enough to drive a truck through."

a very valid point, I was not at all trying to hone in on propulsion, however it seems to be the most imminent issue.  You are exactly right that a massive shield of some sort is needed for the bits of rock and debris that are floating around this Universe.  That is to say nothing of entire planets and solar systems which become an issue the longer and faster you intend to travel.  Space charts and cartography as a whole will really need to step up to the plate to facilitate travel on so grand a scale.

That being said, I think the research with respect to energy generated from a feasible interstellar powerplant would yield energies and technology feasible for implementation in a shield or deflector of some sort.  Furthermore, we don't really know what happens to matter at that speed, it's all theory.  Matter may simply phase out of sync with objects it travels by, though I seriously doubt it.  That is probably a few quantum leaps away from the technology enabling intersteller travel.

I think our momentum stopped with Apollo.  I am not sure what mankind was expecting once we arrived at the moon, but whatever it was they didn't get it.  We arrived to find a giant burnt sphere.  As with any great scientific venture, more questions were raised than answers provided.  Rather than take the knowledge gained and stab further outward, society wailed a collective, "Aw fuck it" and gave up.  The Space Shuttle never had the momentum of any previous space program, and is now limping along well past its intended sunset date.  It has been reduced to a low orbit 18 wheeler.