_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7018|Riva, MD

^KoB^Buckles wrote:

i really REALLY think that it's funny how people argue so much over this crap!
if your computer turns on when you press the button and runs everything you need it to run, then what's the problem?
That's kinda what i'm wondering, most of the people in the this forum seem to be absolutely DROWNING in money though so that might be why.
CRIMS0N_W0LF
Member
+21|7040
Its only 1 product give it a little time and AMD will come out with something more powerful like always
Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6857|Kent, UK

CRIMS0N_W0LF wrote:

Its only 1 product give it a little time and AMD will come out with something more powerful like always
in which time Intel will have developed an even more UBER NINJA CPU unit which will take AMD another 2-3 years to copy
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7017

CRIMS0N_W0LF wrote:

Its only 1 product give it a little time and AMD will come out with something more powerful like always
ok this is what will happen

AMD
2007: 65nm AMD cpus/ possibly K8L
2008: K8L for desktop

Intel
2007: quad core kentsfield/ 45nm conroe
2008: nehelam, conroes succesor
2009: 32nm nehelam
2010: another new architecture

intel said they would release a completely new architecture every two years. for now, the price/performance ratio and overclockability for conroe is just incredible, E6600 2.4ghz conroe kicked FX62's ass. and can overclock higher

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Tunacommy
Member
+56|6921|Massachusetts, USA
I hope Intel buys NVDA....I have a bunch of NVDA stock at $24.....need to make my money back.
Reaper2325
Member
+2|7024|New Hartford, New York
Ah...this thread has been hijacked to become an Intel vs. AMD thread.

I've lost all respect for ATI now that they are merging with AMD.  Some Intel Server boards had integrated ATI graphics. I guess not anymore.  I think ATI is going to find that their diehard Intel guys that use ATI graphics are going to start switching over to NVidia.

I used to use NVidia graphic  cards until one of my fav game MFG's would make a patch, then the patch messed with the NVidia's drivers, then NVidia came out with a new patch to crrect the games patch, then the game would crash. This went on for 3 months. I went to ATI because none of the ATI guys where having problems (NVidia enhanced game). I will admit, NVidia does have awsome graphics, when game MFG's don't touch the damn drivers and am thinking about going back to them myself.

AMD does make good CPU's, but some of us old school guys are just stand-offish on it. Remember the problems with Win 95 and Cyrix CPU's and games. God, you needed a program to trick the game's installer program into thinking your Cyrix was a Pentium just to play some of the games because it did a hardware check and said you weren't running the proper CPU.
Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6857|Kent, UK
my Business Studies teacher a few years back had stocks in British Steel at about 6% of their original value. Poor guy!
The_Mob_Returns
Member
+72|7023|Indianapolis, IN
The sad this is that when AMD annouced the merger earlier the stock fell over 15%.  The reason being that share holders were afraid that AMD will lose the market share to Intel.
Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6857|Kent, UK
it's gunna be a close thing. Thing is, I reckon that Intel and nVidia are gunna have to team up (at least) to keep a hold on the market so there's gunna be a lot of exclusivity on that front. In the end it's only gunna hurt us consumers cuz we're gunna be very limited on our choices of hardware
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7017

^KoB^Buckles wrote:

it's gunna be a close thing. Thing is, I reckon that Intel and nVidia are gunna have to team up (at least) to keep a hold on the market so there's gunna be a lot of exclusivity on that front. In the end it's only gunna hurt us consumers cuz we're gunna be very limited on our choices of hardware
well this may be true, but i as a gamer/techie wouldnt care much about that... why? im too poor to run SLI or crossfire intels new IGC is a major improvement from the last one. but AMD needs chipsets from other companies since they dont make it themselves
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Buckles
Cheeky Keen
+329|6857|Kent, UK
true, true
ShotYourSix
Boldly going nowhere...
+196|7020|Las Vegas
Just once more for clarification.  Up until this very month, AMD clearly ruled the roost in terms of gaming performance.  As of this very month Intel has stolen the performance crown.  For how long may be debatable but at least into mid/late 2007.

Don't believe it?  Instead of posting your rebuttal here, take a moment and visit ANY tech site, does not matter which as they are ALL in agreement.  Intel has stolen the crown, and not by just a bit, Anandtech stated that Intel's new Conroe chip was the fastest CPU they had ever seen.  What was true in June is no longer true.  You can bury your head in the sand if you wish, but sooner or later you will come to terms with this fact.

My first Intel chip was in 1993.  My second intel chip will be a Conroe.
Maj.Do
Member
+85|7053|good old CA
so you guys are saying that ati will hardly support intel because amd is merging with them : ( 
Also Intel has a large RD department  : ).  But hey i dont really like one company more, i just buy the best one.
462nd NSP653
Devout Moderate, Empty Head.
+57|6985

^KoB^Buckles wrote:

i really REALLY think that it's funny how people argue so much over this crap!
if your computer turns on when you press the button and runs everything you need it to run, then what's the problem?
AMEN!
Eboreus
Member of Foamy's Card Cult
+46|6948

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

CRIMS0N_W0LF wrote:

oh yea 1 product that will get owned in a few weeks make a whole difference? Its documented that AMD is better then intel specialistx2324 post some links for cyborg to see
what has AMD have now against conroe? price cuts? K8L wont be out in a year or 2
did amd do something to you personal? kill your mother? eat your savings? just let the people have amd and you have your intel - it doesnt change the world
462nd NSP653
Devout Moderate, Empty Head.
+57|6985

Eboreus wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

CRIMS0N_W0LF wrote:

oh yea 1 product that will get owned in a few weeks make a whole difference? Its documented that AMD is better then intel specialistx2324 post some links for cyborg to see
what has AMD have now against conroe? price cuts? K8L wont be out in a year or 2
did amd do something to you personal? kill your mother? eat your savings? just let the people have amd and you have your intel - it doesnt change the world
AMEN!  AGAIN!!
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6916|do not disturb

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

specialistx2324 wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:


no no u got it wrong, anybody who says AMD cpus own, and intel cpu's suck needs to get their issues fixed, whens the last time youve been to the forums...
anyone who says AMD sucks ass is a freaking smacktard/noob.

i have over 100 forums documented proving that amd outperforms intel ..
yeah... last year... things changes over a year... conroe kicked AMD's ass big time, theres no denying it
Well now at least, and that's one line of CPUs of Intel. Everything else is less efficient. Intel are like weak hearts that have to beat faster to exert the same amount of strength as an AMD heart, which beats slower but stronger. If you have a high resting heart rate, hit the gym! Intel did that with Conroe and made a little Rocky.

I hope the best for AMD because Conroe is going to rip out AMDs' liver.
kilroy0097
Kilroy Is Here!
+81|7144|Bryan/College Station, TX
Let me interject with an actual response to the original topic on the AMD & ATI merger.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060724-7333.html

This article is correct that this merge may potentially lead to some impressed intergrated video card motherboards. With the GPU in a CPU socket on the motherboard itself it can have it's own deticated cooler, power supply and all sorts of things that the CPU would get. It would have to share the DDR2 memory on the board but with the increases of that to as much as 4 GiG on some platforms that might not be an issue. With a deticated communication channel on the mainboard instead of using the PCI-E slot this might increase communication between the CPU and GPU. It at very least prompts a new line of thinking when it comes to integrated mainboards for a cheaper cost. Think of low cost systems with a better graphics engine built in. It's a good step forward if AMD & ATI take it to that level.

The Intel Core 2 Duo is still going to kick ass and take names for a while at least.

Last edited by kilroy0097 (2006-07-24 20:48:05)

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6828|Portland, OR USA

Reaper2325 wrote:

Ah...this thread has been hijacked to become an Intel vs. AMD thread.
No, this thread has been derailed

tsk tsk

That being said ...

dude, Intel and nvidia would like totally kick AMD and ATI's ass and stuff.   I don't care what cyborg trash talks about conroe, I say it's a good chip.  Maybe even a good overclocker I hear ...
Capt. Foley
Member
+155|6889|Allentown, PA, USA
Intel+nVidia=Total Destruction of everyone else.
{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank
U.S. > Iran
+497|6879|Florida
maybe this is why my ATI stock has been doing so well the past few days lol
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6871|Portland, OR, USA

Eboreus wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

CRIMS0N_W0LF wrote:

oh yea 1 product that will get owned in a few weeks make a whole difference? Its documented that AMD is better then intel specialistx2324 post some links for cyborg to see
what has AMD have now against conroe? price cuts? K8L wont be out in a year or 2
did amd do something to you personal? kill your mother? eat your savings? just let the people have amd and you have your intel - it doesnt change the world
yeah no shit dude you need to get out more and stop bitching everytime someone says 'AMD' in a post.. its fucking annoying.  I already know conroe will kick ass, but you shoving it down my throat every-fucking-post.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7017

PuckMercury wrote:

Reaper2325 wrote:

Ah...this thread has been hijacked to become an Intel vs. AMD thread.
No, this thread has been derailed

tsk tsk

That being said ...

dude, Intel and nvidia would like totally kick AMD and ATI's ass and stuff.   I don't care what cyborg trash talks about conroe, I say it's a good chip.  Maybe even a good overclocker I hear ...
that was the whole point of what i did

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Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7037|Salt Lake City

nVidia won't stop making AMD chipsets.  They only recently got an Intel license and they have even less Intel market share that SiS.  Unless NV wants to take it in the ass on their chipset business, they will continue to build AMD chipsets.  AMD has no plans to stop working with NV, and it is NV's best interest to do the same.

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