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2006-07-25 23:40:04
BEE_Grim_Reaper
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Ok.... I guess, our conservative friends lowing and evil_styx are all about nitpicking, twisting facts to their needs and trying to insult people once their own arguments run out.... but this is nothing unexpected.

The Danish flag being burnt was a direct result of the insult of the Mohammed comics, if your want to know. I guess that by that time a years production of american flags had been put ashes already.

lowing wrote:

Only thing I have t osay is this about all of your crap.

The UN is made up of countries that are anti-American and anti-Semetic. THe US is not in a position that  NEEDS the UN to make policy for us or decide for us the best way to defend ourselves. The UN has been proven to have agendas NOT in the best interest of anyone except the UN.
Now this is one piece of crap that needs to be topped... I hope you realize you just called every country in the UN apart from the US a bunch of nazis. Great work. Your might think, the US does not need the UN... fine... the reverse opinion could be also true... The World does not need the US. The world does not need a bunch of warmongers. The best thing would be that the US would just isolate itself so the rest would not have to deal with them. You are not welcome as the worlds police... face that.

Concerning the US involvement in WWII. The US did not win the war. Germany would have fallen without the US anyway. If a country could claim to have won the war, it is the Russians. You might want to bring the circumstance of lend lease.... you were paid for that. Actually the war between Japan and the US was only the result of a series of well conceived insults against Japan.

A word of advice.... before you point your finger on other countries/peoples faults, take care of your own first... and I mean the internal problems being caused by yourselves
2006-07-25 23:55:00
GunSlinger OIF II
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BEE_Grim_Reaper wrote:

Ok.... I guess, our conservative friends lowing and evil_styx are all about nitpicking, twisting facts to their needs and trying to insult people once their own arguments run out.... but this is nothing unexpected.
i am no conservative and me and lowing got into it with the immigration debate and we were both able to find happy ending  in the argument between us. 


I feel like I just seen too much shit to take any kind side on the political table.
2006-07-26 03:37:41
oug
Calmer than you are.
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lowing wrote:

Only thing I have t osay is this about all of your crap.

The UN is made up of countries that are anti-American and anti-Semetic. THe US is not in a position that  NEEDS the UN to make policy for us or decide for us the best way to defend ourselves. The UN has been proven to have agendas NOT in the best interest of anyone except the UN.
1. I started posting in this forum because of an argument I saw between CameronPoe and Captn. Foley if I remember correctly... What amazed me was that although these two had completely different opinions, they managed to pull out this debate without any name calling and with a lot of respect for each other.

It is obvious to me now that this was an exception. I have no intention of answering to EVIL_STYX because clearly he is incapable of  debating in a civilized manner. His posts have never brought anything new to the conversation, only stupid insults for those he doesn't like.

2. I thought maybe you lowing were different, but you are failing to show that.

What you're saying above is the world is anti-semitic and anti-US...?? Need I prove you wrong?
"The UN has been proven to have agendas NOT in the best interest of anyone except the UN"??? What the fuck did you expect? It's the UNITED FUCKING NATIONS!!! Your goddamn country in it as well as ALL others!!
Next time if you're just gonna label my post as "crap" without any justification you might as well not bother at all cause nobody gives a fuck what you say unless you prove yourself to be correct.

So please Captn. Foley, GunSlinger OIF II or whoever out there has anything to say... please raise the standards of the conversation.
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2006-07-26 09:18:23
BEE_Grim_Reaper
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

BEE_Grim_Reaper wrote:

Ok.... I guess, our conservative friends lowing and evil_styx are all about nitpicking, twisting facts to their needs and trying to insult people once their own arguments run out.... but this is nothing unexpected.
i am no conservative and me and lowing got into it with the immigration debate and we were both able to find happy ending  in the argument between us. 


I feel like I just seen too much shit to take any kind side on the political table.
Well.... I have seen too much shit to be of the opinion, that war is a viable method of foreign policy
2006-07-26 09:54:10
Spumantiii
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EVIL_STINK:
listen up now you little faggot I play wha tthe fuck I want and I don't give a shit how you play this game.  I don't call you an illiterate gijoe toy loving little aspiring homo shiteater, that's because I don't give a shit what you do.  It's not statpadding if that's the only kind of bf2 I like playing.  I don't play regular bf2 you fucknut, and I figured my 12000+ pistol kills would have clued you in.   

I don't give a fuck what you do nor would I accuse you of 'padding'  when all it is is playing other than your stupid noob apcing fest artillery BULLSHIT you probably stumble around in.  What the fuck ever.  I'll play this game howevere the fuck I want because it's fun, not for points.  I'm going to go get the idiot police and report you for being such an ass in a forum and making so many gtrammatical errors.

Go back to school
PS WHEN YOU SAY OUT IT MEANS YPOU'RE DONE.  THE WORD YOU WANT IS"OVER"  FFS

FUCKING NOOB

ANYONE ELSE CARE HOW I PLAY THIS GAME?
It's only padding if you're sitting there heal reviving not running around stabbing which is harder and more fun than shooting ppl with tanks

let loose the dogs of war?!  You mean run at the enemy and die?  You seem pretty good at that according to your stats
come play me where some skill is required buddy  I'm toplisted #7 with the pistol in the world  Fuck Ya.

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2006-07-26 10:01:23
GunSlinger OIF II
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well whatever it is that we're talking about now...the bottom line is this:

The United States follows a strict ROE and when it is violated, chances are the service member will be punished, the insurgency does not.

cant say it enough ROE GETS AMERICANS KILLED.  but then when you hear about isolated incidents of Americans overstepping their deadly force, we are painted bad guys by those who just dont fucking know
2006-07-26 10:04:57
kr@cker
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the reason those incidents are newsworthy is that they are the exception, not the rule, the media is all for reaping the rewards without reminding us of this
2006-07-26 12:06:37
konfusion
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sigh...I really wish I were not on holiday, IE, sitting in front of my computer with no life, because I'd really love to contribute to this discussion... I know, another random post... I'll be back in 3 days and you will be seeing my name all over your screen
2006-07-26 16:21:59
lowing
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THE U.N.'s RECORD VIS A VIS ISRAEL



Prior to the Madrid Conference, of '91, the office of Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir commissioned Shai Ben-Tekoa to do a statistical analysis of U.N. voting vis a vis Israel. The following is a summary of Mr. Ben-Tekoa's research.

Summary



Security Council:
175 Total Resolutions
74 Neutral
4 Against the perceived interests of an Arab state or body
97 Against Israel

General Assembly:
Cumulative Number of Votes cast with/for Israel: 7,938.
Cumulative Number of Votes cast against Israel: 55,642.

Now this is the Bottom LINE in this discussion, I could spend all day and site search after search as to how the UN is anti-Semitic........Now, your challenge is to show me sites where the UN,IN FACT, has been historically fair and favorable to Israel.......Good luck.

Last edited by lowing (2006-07-26 16:22:44)

2006-07-26 17:53:23
jonsimon
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lowing wrote:

THE U.N.'s RECORD VIS A VIS ISRAEL



Prior to the Madrid Conference, of '91, the office of Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir commissioned Shai Ben-Tekoa to do a statistical analysis of U.N. voting vis a vis Israel. The following is a summary of Mr. Ben-Tekoa's research.

Summary



Security Council:
175 Total Resolutions
74 Neutral
4 Against the perceived interests of an Arab state or body
97 Against Israel

General Assembly:
Cumulative Number of Votes cast with/for Israel: 7,938.
Cumulative Number of Votes cast against Israel: 55,642.

Now this is the Bottom LINE in this discussion, I could spend all day and site search after search as to how the UN is anti-Semitic........Now, your challenge is to show me sites where the UN,IN FACT, has been historically fair and favorable to Israel.......Good luck.
Maybe Israel deserved those resolutions.
2006-07-26 17:56:05
GunSlinger OIF II
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why does the world hate Jews so much, really, why?
2006-07-26 18:02:15
lowing
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jonsimon wrote:

lowing wrote:

THE U.N.'s RECORD VIS A VIS ISRAEL



Prior to the Madrid Conference, of '91, the office of Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir commissioned Shai Ben-Tekoa to do a statistical analysis of U.N. voting vis a vis Israel. The following is a summary of Mr. Ben-Tekoa's research.

Summary



Security Council:
175 Total Resolutions
74 Neutral
4 Against the perceived interests of an Arab state or body
97 Against Israel

General Assembly:
Cumulative Number of Votes cast with/for Israel: 7,938.
Cumulative Number of Votes cast against Israel: 55,642.

Now this is the Bottom LINE in this discussion, I could spend all day and site search after search as to how the UN is anti-Semitic........Now, your challenge is to show me sites where the UN,IN FACT, has been historically fair and favorable to Israel.......Good luck.
Maybe Israel deserved those resolutions.
your "maybe"'s is not the challenge..........anyone else??
2006-07-26 18:43:24
BEE_Grim_Reaper
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I'm not quite sure on how many people actually know, that the words "anti-semitic", "semites" and everything derived from is racists when used in relation to people. The term semitic is only neutral when used strictly in a linguistic sense.

Funny thing is, that not only Hebrew is classified as a semitic language but also all Arabic dialects and Syrian.

Furthermore some people must really learn to seperate religion from politics. Being Jewish does not automatically make you a citizien of Israel.

Therefore, the actually quoted resolutions where made in favor or against the sovereign nation of Israel and its actions, not against people of the same creed.

However, I did a little digging and found the source of the numbers lowing quotes:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/engli … israel.htm

I must say... Israel National News is hardly a neutral source.

However... regarding history, I must say, the Israel had these resolutions coming. It is undisputed, that the initial UN Partition Plan was undermined and blocked by the Arabian population. It is also undisputed, that the neighbouring Arab states immediately declared war upon Israel upon its founding.

But another thing is also indisputed: the legal foundation of Israel is based upon the principles of the Zionism, which one might safely call being religious fundamentalist.

1. Only people of jewish creed should have full citizenship in Israel. This is highly undemocratic.
2. Between 1948 and 1949 a systematic eviction of Palestinians took place (app. 900.000 Palestinians where evicted) accompanied by seizure of their posessions by the Israelis.

It is also proven that many Palestinians fled in fear of zionist terrorists.

You might want to consult Benny Morris "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem" on this. Benny Morris is one of the "new Historians" of Israel...

Basically, one might call these measures fascist. As a matter of fact, Israel acting as a sovereign state has violated principles of the UN Charta.... more than all arabic states combined.
2006-07-26 19:04:10
lowing
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BEE_Grim_Reaper wrote:

I'm not quite sure on how many people actually know, that the words "anti-semitic", "semites" and everything derived from is racists when used in relation to people. The term semitic is only neutral when used strictly in a linguistic sense.

Funny thing is, that not only Hebrew is classified as a semitic language but also all Arabic dialects and Syrian.

Furthermore some people must really learn to seperate religion from politics. Being Jewish does not automatically make you a citizien of Israel.

Therefore, the actually quoted resolutions where made in favor or against the sovereign nation of Israel and its actions, not against people of the same creed.

However, I did a little digging and found the source of the numbers lowing quotes:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/engli … israel.htm

I must say... Israel National News is hardly a neutral source.

However... regarding history, I must say, the Israel had these resolutions coming. It is undisputed, that the initial UN Partition Plan was undermined and blocked by the Arabian population. It is also undisputed, that the neighbouring Arab states immediately declared war upon Israel upon its founding.

But another thing is also indisputed: the legal foundation of Israel is based upon the principles of the Zionism, which one might safely call being religious fundamentalist.

1. Only people of jewish creed should have full citizenship in Israel. This is highly undemocratic.
2. Between 1948 and 1949 a systematic eviction of Palestinians took place (app. 900.000 Palestinians where evicted) accompanied by seizure of their posessions by the Israelis.

It is also proven that many Palestinians fled in fear of zionist terrorists.

You might want to consult Benny Morris "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem" on this. Benny Morris is one of the "new Historians" of Israel...

Basically, one might call these measures fascist. As a matter of fact, Israel acting as a sovereign state has violated principles of the UN Charta.... more than all arabic states combined.
the last statement about Israels violations, I don't know, but I sure would like to see the context of their violations, becouse from what I have read, you couldn't fart in Israel without violating a UN resolution drawn up against them.

I use anti-Semitic as it is now known and accepted.


BUt still no one is showning me links to sites that prove the UN has been historically fair to Israel.
2006-07-26 20:18:18
jonsimon
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lowing wrote:

BEE_Grim_Reaper wrote:

I'm not quite sure on how many people actually know, that the words "anti-semitic", "semites" and everything derived from is racists when used in relation to people. The term semitic is only neutral when used strictly in a linguistic sense.

Funny thing is, that not only Hebrew is classified as a semitic language but also all Arabic dialects and Syrian.

Furthermore some people must really learn to seperate religion from politics. Being Jewish does not automatically make you a citizien of Israel.

Therefore, the actually quoted resolutions where made in favor or against the sovereign nation of Israel and its actions, not against people of the same creed.

However, I did a little digging and found the source of the numbers lowing quotes:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/engli … israel.htm

I must say... Israel National News is hardly a neutral source.

However... regarding history, I must say, the Israel had these resolutions coming. It is undisputed, that the initial UN Partition Plan was undermined and blocked by the Arabian population. It is also undisputed, that the neighbouring Arab states immediately declared war upon Israel upon its founding.

But another thing is also indisputed: the legal foundation of Israel is based upon the principles of the Zionism, which one might safely call being religious fundamentalist.

1. Only people of jewish creed should have full citizenship in Israel. This is highly undemocratic.
2. Between 1948 and 1949 a systematic eviction of Palestinians took place (app. 900.000 Palestinians where evicted) accompanied by seizure of their posessions by the Israelis.

It is also proven that many Palestinians fled in fear of zionist terrorists.

You might want to consult Benny Morris "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem" on this. Benny Morris is one of the "new Historians" of Israel...

Basically, one might call these measures fascist. As a matter of fact, Israel acting as a sovereign state has violated principles of the UN Charta.... more than all arabic states combined.
the last statement about Israels violations, I don't know, but I sure would like to see the context of their violations, becouse from what I have read, you couldn't fart in Israel without violating a UN resolution drawn up against them.

I use anti-Semitic as it is now known and accepted.


BUt still no one is showning me links to sites that prove the UN has been historically fair to Israel.
Popular belief is anti-semitic means anti-jew. Not all jews are israelis. Thus, you are still wrong.
2006-07-26 22:38:59
BEE_Grim_Reaper
Member
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jonsimon wrote:

lowing wrote:

BEE_Grim_Reaper wrote:

I'm not quite sure on how many people actually know, that the words "anti-semitic", "semites" and everything derived from is racists when used in relation to people. The term semitic is only neutral when used strictly in a linguistic sense.

Funny thing is, that not only Hebrew is classified as a semitic language but also all Arabic dialects and Syrian.

Furthermore some people must really learn to seperate religion from politics. Being Jewish does not automatically make you a citizien of Israel.

Therefore, the actually quoted resolutions where made in favor or against the sovereign nation of Israel and its actions, not against people of the same creed.

However, I did a little digging and found the source of the numbers lowing quotes:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/engli … israel.htm

I must say... Israel National News is hardly a neutral source.

However... regarding history, I must say, the Israel had these resolutions coming. It is undisputed, that the initial UN Partition Plan was undermined and blocked by the Arabian population. It is also undisputed, that the neighbouring Arab states immediately declared war upon Israel upon its founding.

But another thing is also indisputed: the legal foundation of Israel is based upon the principles of the Zionism, which one might safely call being religious fundamentalist.

1. Only people of jewish creed should have full citizenship in Israel. This is highly undemocratic.
2. Between 1948 and 1949 a systematic eviction of Palestinians took place (app. 900.000 Palestinians where evicted) accompanied by seizure of their posessions by the Israelis.

It is also proven that many Palestinians fled in fear of zionist terrorists.

You might want to consult Benny Morris "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem" on this. Benny Morris is one of the "new Historians" of Israel...

Basically, one might call these measures fascist. As a matter of fact, Israel acting as a sovereign state has violated principles of the UN Charta.... more than all arabic states combined.
the last statement about Israels violations, I don't know, but I sure would like to see the context of their violations, becouse from what I have read, you couldn't fart in Israel without violating a UN resolution drawn up against them.

I use anti-Semitic as it is now known and accepted.


BUt still no one is showning me links to sites that prove the UN has been historically fair to Israel.
Popular belief is anti-semitic means anti-jew. Not all jews are israelis. Thus, you are still wrong.
Exactly...

Additionally, judgeing by Israels historical actions and policies as a state, the UN actions are definitely with a point. As the Palestinian militias are not a country, they cannot be sanctioned like one. Also I believe that without forced relocation and expulsion from their land they owned for generations, Palestinians wouldn't have had the urge of shooting at their oppressors. I wonder where the US with their urge to bring freedom and democracy to all were by the time the rights of the Palestinians were brutally suppressed.

Also I do not see a point in refuting claims, Israel has been treated "unfair" by the UN, when the basis is a biased report by the perpetrator giving only numbers without any proof. Where are the links to the source of unfairness aka the UN reprimands?

By the way... be careful with the use of the term anti-semitic... Arabs (Palestinians included) are also semites.

Last edited by BEE_Grim_Reaper (2006-07-26 22:40:17)

2006-07-26 22:44:54
kr@cker
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you can look up the votes and resolutions against israel on the UN's own website, but don't plan on doing anything for 2 days, it takes some time (you'll find they're pretty much all written after Israel has chosen to defend itself after being on the receiving end of a terrorist attack)
2006-07-26 22:51:56
BEE_Grim_Reaper
Member
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Someone else posted a list of the resolutions against Israel in another post on this forum.... I just take the liberty of copying them in here:

UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992
1. Resolution 106: "... 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid"
2. Resolution 111: "...'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
3. Resolution 127: "...'recommends' Israel suspend its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem"
4. Resolution 162: "...'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions"
5. Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria"
6. Resolution 228: "...'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
7. Resolution 237: "...'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
8. Resolution 248: "... 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
9. Resolution 250: "... 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
10. Resolution 251: "... 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
11. Resolution 252: "...'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
12. Resolution 256: "... 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation""
13. Resolution 259: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
14. Resolution 262: "...'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
15. Resolution 265: "... 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
16. Resolution 267: "...'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
17. Resolution 270: "...'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
18. Resolution 271: "...'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN  resolutions on Jerusalem"
19. Resolution 279: "...'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
20. Resolution 280: "....'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon"
21. Resolution 285: "...'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
22. Resolution 298: "...'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem"
23. Resolution 313: "...'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
24. Resolution 316: "...'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
25. Resolution 317: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
26. Resolution 332: "...'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon"
27. Resolution 337: "...'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty"
28. Resolution 347: "...'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
29. Resolution 425: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
30. Resolution 427: "...'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon'
31. Resolution 444: "...'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
32. Resolution 446: "...'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
33. Resolution 450: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
34. Resolution 452: "...'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
35. Resolution 465: "...'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel's settlements program"
36. Resolution 467: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon"
37. Resolution 468: "...'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
38. Resolution 469: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians" 39. Resolution 471: "... 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
40. Resolution 476: "... 'reiterates' that Israel's claims to Jerusalem are 'null and void'"
41. Resolution 478: "...'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'"
42. Resolution 484: "...'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
43. Resolution 487: "...'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility"
44. Resolution 497: "...'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
45. Resolution 498: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
46. Resolution 501: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
47. Resolution 509: "...'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
48. Resolution 515: "...'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
49. Resolution 517: "...'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
50. Resolution 518: "...'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
51. Resolution 520: "...'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut"
52. Resolution 573: "...'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
53. Resolution 587: "...'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
54. Resolution 592: "...'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops" 55. Resolution 605: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
56. Resolution 607: "...'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
57. Resolution 608: "...'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
58. Resolution 636: "...'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
59. Resolution 641: "...'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians
60. Resolution 672: "...'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
61. Resolution 673: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
62. Resolution 681: "...'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
63. Resolution 694: "...'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
64. Resolution 726: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians
65. Resolution 799: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
 
The following are the resolutions vetoed by the United States during the period of September, 1972, to May, 1990 to protect Israel from council criticism:
1. ....condemned Israel's attack against Southern against southern Lebanon and Syria..."
2. ....affirmed the rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, statehood and equal protections..."
3. ...condemned Israel's air strikes and attacks in southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians..."
4. ....called for self-determination of Palestinian people..."
5. ....deplored Israel's altering of the status of Jerusalem, which is recognized as an international city by most world nations and the United Nations..."
6. ....affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people..."
7. ....endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian people..."
8. ....demanded Israel's withdrawal from the Golan Heights..."
9. ....condemned Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip and its refusal to abide by the Geneva convention protocols of civilized nations..."
10. ....condemned an Israeli soldier who shot eleven Moslem worshippers at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount near Al-Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem..."
11. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Lebanon..."
12. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Beirut..."
14. ....urged cutoff of economic aid to Israel if it refused to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon..."
15. ....condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, denouncing them as an obstacle to peace..."
16. ....deplores Israel's brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon and urges its withdrawal..."
17. ....condemned Israeli brutality in southern Lebanon and denounced the Israeli 'Iron Fist' policy of repression...."
18. ....denounced Israel's violation of human rights in the occupied territories..."
19. ....deplored Israel's violence in southern Lebanon..."
20. ....deplored Israel's activities in occupied Arab East Jerusalem that threatened the sanctity of Muslim holy sites..."
21. ....condemned Israel's hijacking of a Libyan passenger airplane..."
22. ....deplored Israel's attacks against Lebanon and its measures and practices against the civilian population of Lebanon..."
23. ....called on Israel to abandon its policies against the Palestinian intifada that violated the rights of occupied Palestinians, to abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions, and to formalize a leading role for the United Nations in future peace negotiations..."
24. ....urged Israel to accept back deported Palestinians, condemned Israel's shooting of civilians, called on Israel to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention, and called for a peace settlement under UN auspices..."
25. ....condemned Israel's... incursion into Lebanon..."
26. ....deplored Israel's... commando raids on Lebanon..."
27. ....deplored Israel's repression of the Palestinian intifada and called on Israel to respect the human rights of the Palestinians..."
28. ....deplored Israel's violation of the human rights of the Palestinians..."
29. ....demanded that Israel return property confiscated from Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to observe Israel's crackdown on the Palestinian intifada..."
30. ...called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against Palestinians in Israeli-occupied lands..."-
2006-07-26 22:53:48
kr@cker
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how dare they defend themselves, dirty fucking jews
2006-07-26 22:58:08
BEE_Grim_Reaper
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kr@cker wrote:

how dare they defend themselves, dirty fucking jews
And how dare those dirty fucking palestinians be angry with the almighty, godsent and -given Israeli? How dare they not chant joyously for being expelled in almighty wisdom...

I do know the application of sarcasm as well...
2006-07-27 03:50:01
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6852|USA
Where was the resolution condemning the Arabs for starting the 6 days war?, where was the resolution condemning Iraq for launching scuds into Israel?? Again no proof that the UN has been historically fair to Israel.
2006-07-27 04:07:10
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6763

lowing wrote:

where was the resolution condemning Iraq for launching scuds into Israel??
They were a little busy waging war with them at the time.

lowing wrote:

Again no proof that the UN has been historically fair to Israel.
And none that they've been fair to the Palestinians.
2006-07-27 04:41:22
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6720|Πάϊ

lowing wrote:

THE U.N.'s RECORD VIS A VIS ISRAEL



Prior to the Madrid Conference, of '91, the office of Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir commissioned Shai Ben-Tekoa to do a statistical analysis of U.N. voting vis a vis Israel. The following is a summary of Mr. Ben-Tekoa's research.

Summary



Security Council:
175 Total Resolutions
74 Neutral
4 Against the perceived interests of an Arab state or body
97 Against Israel

General Assembly:
Cumulative Number of Votes cast with/for Israel: 7,938.
Cumulative Number of Votes cast against Israel: 55,642.

Now this is the Bottom LINE in this discussion, I could spend all day and site search after search as to how the UN is anti-Semitic........Now, your challenge is to show me sites where the UN,IN FACT, has been historically fair and favorable to Israel.......Good luck.
So let me get this straight. All the countries of the world, aka the UN, came up with all these resolutions against Israel, and all you could say is that the UN is anti-semitic?

Did it never occur to you that maybe all the countries of the world may be right and Israel may be wrong?
Isn't that more probable than all countries except Israel being anti-semitic????

And as far as this "we're merely defending ourselves"  epicheirema is concerned, all you have to do is take a look at the map and see who is expanding and who has been shrinking over the years. Face it, Israel has  been on the attack ever since its creation.
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2006-07-27 12:51:22
BEE_Grim_Reaper
Member
+15|6908|Germany
I guess the most fair decisions of the UN was simply not to decided to wipe Israel of the face of the earth. Being anti-semitic as they are, that would have been a logical conclusion.

Ok... enough of sarcasm. Anyhow... seing the fascist aggressiveness of Israel, I wonder, why the UN has not yet put complete sanctions against Israel in place or declared a war on them as they did with Iraq when they invaded Kuwait....
2006-07-27 15:09:27
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6852|USA
like I said,,,,,,,,talk is cheap...........POST some links, cuz I god damn know you have tried to find some, that shows fairness to Israel in the dealings with the UN. It stands out like a sore thumb that you WASTE time tring to define anti-Semite and go on and on about your maybe's this and probably's that.........PROVE it!!!! show some links that back up the UN.......Still waiting.

 

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