Nikola Bathory
Karkand T-90 0wnage
+163|6796|Bulgaria
the "infantry" only option is a direct violation of the ROE!!!
FFS
I love tanks! Why introduce such option?? Instead, they could make the new map without any tanks and APCs. Only jeeps, let's say.
Drumedor
Oops, who put that tree there?
+17|6554|Borås, Sweden
I think they will change the ROE after the patch, if you want to whore your tank then don't play on the infantry servers.
joker8baller
Member
+68|6676
How is it a violation? They just took out the tanks eh?
chittydog
less busy
+586|6844|Kubra, Damn it!

Apparently you can only use the infantry-only option in non-ranked games.
INCSOC
Member since 1984
+113|6689|Denver, CO
the pre 1.4 infantry only servers violate the ROE because they PROHIBIT players from using vehicles that are available on the map... like joker8baller said, if the map has no vehicles AVAILABLE then there is no violation.  Just like in Karkand there're no planes or choppers... there is no violation.

Likewise, I believe that if there should also be a weapon select mode for infantry only servers.  That way people could create legal "pistol/knife" servers without having your general stat padding humpfest.  If everybody played normally with just pistols/knives/sniper rifles/insert your favorite weapon here it could be a very fun game, in my opinion.

^Edited for clarification... seemed to confuse some people

Last edited by INCSOC (2006-07-07 09:26:26)

Schuchi
Member
+1|6625
its no violation of the BFROE because ... this option is only available for NON-ranked servers and non-ranked servers are not controlled by the ROE
Sgt.Davi
Touches Himself At Night.
+300|6652|England

Drumedor wrote:

I think they will change the ROE after the patch, if you want to whore your tank then don't play on the infantry servers.
Best. Advice. Ever.....











lol
Boomerjinks
Member
+301|6804|Denver, CO
Won't anyone think of the children???
teehee1988
Member
+5|6647|Birmingham, UK
its not that youre not aloowed to sue the vehicles
the vehicles just wont be there
hence no violation
but who bets more bugs are produced by this??
Zodiaccup
Member
+42|6556

INCSOC wrote:

the infantry only servers violate the ROE because they PROHIBIT players from using vehicles that are available on the map... like joker8baller said, if the map has no vehicles AVAILABLE then there is no violation.  Just like in Karkand there're no planes or choppers... there is no violation.

...
In the moment where u set the server on Inf. only-Mode, there are no vehicles anymore...
So there is no violation of the ROE. Even when the finished 1.4 Patch is released and you
play Inf.only on ranked servers...
INCSOC
Member since 1984
+113|6689|Denver, CO

Zodiaccup wrote:

INCSOC wrote:

the infantry only servers violate the ROE because they PROHIBIT players from using vehicles that are available on the map... like joker8baller said, if the map has no vehicles AVAILABLE then there is no violation.  Just like in Karkand there're no planes or choppers... there is no violation.

...
In the moment where u set the server on Inf. only-Mode, there are no vehicles anymore...
So there is no violation of the ROE. Even when the finished 1.4 Patch is released and you
play Inf.only on ranked servers...
i hope you were quoting me as support for your statement... cuz if not you should read it again.
DirtyMexican
I knife Generals
+278|6546|Search Whore killing fields
Infantry only needs a J-10
INCSOC
Member since 1984
+113|6689|Denver, CO

DirtyMexican wrote:

Infantry only needs a J-10
better yet 62 infantry only VS 2 in a Cobra.... mmmmmmmm pizza
-=5TON3D
Member
+42|6544|u.k
so what about if everyone on say,for example a 16player server decides they all want to
play a round of P/K without forcing anyone to only use those weapons.would that be a
violation of the ROE?,i cant see how it could be because theres no rule that says you have to use
a vehicle or all your weapons,your just not allowed to force server rules onto people.

if what i've said does'nt fall into a violation of the ROE & someone spots the server in the list
without joining it & decides they wanna go grass on everyone because of the high looking scores
they saw,& people get reset over it,that'd mean those resets would be unjust & theres a flaw in the
ROE system.it would also mean that people could be able to play whatever style of weapons round
they feel like without having to worry about breaking any rules as long as no certain weapons only
server rules are forced onto anyone during the round.

if that makes sence lol.

be nice to get some feedback on this,as say a clan server full of friends that would all agree to playin
a round of any weapon they decide (without being forced or told to) be it p/k or sniper only or something
could do so without actualy breaking any rules at all.

Last edited by -=5TON3D (2006-07-07 09:44:04)

dan500
Member
+57|6857
The beta is not ranked.. its not breaking the RoE..
Impaqt
Member
+37|6647|Chicago, Il
Are ANY of the 1.4 Servers Ranked yet?  Seems to me it would be silly for EA to allow Beta servers to be ranked at all...

(Havent installed 1.4 yet....  Dunno if I will...)
INCSOC
Member since 1984
+113|6689|Denver, CO

-=5TON3D wrote:

so what about if everyone on say,for example a 16player server decides they all want to
play a round of P/K without forcing anyone to only use those weapons.would that be a
violation of the ROE?,i cant see how it could be because theres no rule that says you have to use
a vehicle or all your weapons,your just not allowed to force server rules onto people.

if what i've said does'nt fall into a violation of the ROE & someone spots the server in the list
without joining it & decides they wanna go grass on everyone because of the high looking scores
they saw,& people get reset over it,that'd mean those resets would be unjust & theres a flaw in the
ROE system.it would also mean that people could be able to play whatever style of weapons round
they feel like without having to worry about breaking any rules as long as no certain weapons only
server rules are forced onto anyone during the round.

if that makes sence lol.

be nice to get some feedback on this,as say a clan server full of friends that would all agree to playin
a round of any weapon they decide (without being forced or told to) be it p/k or sniper only or something
could do so without actualy breaking any rules at all.
correct.  the only 2 things that could potentially violate the ROE in that instance is that if someone else came in and raped you all with a tank/claymores/grenades/etc..., and the admin kicked him.  The other, if the players decided to blatantly stad pad together and start a knife/defib humpfest.  There is nothing wrong with people DECIDING to use a specific weapon.  The admin cannot prohibit players from using available resources, and he cannot encourage them to stad pad (ie.  pause the server and say: "DON'T CAPTURE BASES!!!!" just so the tickets don't end)
INCSOC
Member since 1984
+113|6689|Denver, CO

Impaqt wrote:

Are ANY of the 1.4 Servers Ranked yet?  Seems to me it would be silly for EA to allow Beta servers to be ranked at all...

(Havent installed 1.4 yet....  Dunno if I will...)
it looks like some of them are ranked, however i'm not sure if the stats are actually recorded.
*TS*tphai
The Forum Alien
+89|6815|The planet Tophet
you know how long it would take to walk on jalalabad? a long time they should give us some humvees with no wepons
travisb05
bullseye (+)
+58|6708|U.S
how many times is someone going to post about this i think its the 5th post about it know one cares.
-=5TON3D
Member
+42|6544|u.k

INCSOC wrote:

-=5TON3D wrote:

so what about if everyone on say,for example a 16player server decides they all want to
play a round of P/K without forcing anyone to only use those weapons.would that be a
violation of the ROE?,i cant see how it could be because theres no rule that says you have to use
a vehicle or all your weapons,your just not allowed to force server rules onto people.

if what i've said does'nt fall into a violation of the ROE & someone spots the server in the list
without joining it & decides they wanna go grass on everyone because of the high looking scores
they saw,& people get reset over it,that'd mean those resets would be unjust & theres a flaw in the
ROE system.it would also mean that people could be able to play whatever style of weapons round
they feel like without having to worry about breaking any rules as long as no certain weapons only
server rules are forced onto anyone during the round.

if that makes sence lol.

be nice to get some feedback on this,as say a clan server full of friends that would all agree to playin
a round of any weapon they decide (without being forced or told to) be it p/k or sniper only or something
could do so without actualy breaking any rules at all.
correct.  the only 2 things that could potentially violate the ROE in that instance is that if someone else came in and raped you all with a tank/claymores/grenades/etc..., and the admin kicked him.  The other, if the players decided to blatantly stad pad together and start a knife/defib humpfest.  There is nothing wrong with people DECIDING to use a specific weapon.  The admin cannot prohibit players from using available resources, and he cannot encourage them to stad pad (ie.  pause the server and say: "DON'T CAPTURE BASES!!!!" just so the tickets don't end)
i thaught so,thanks for the reply,been curious about it for a while now lol.
INCSOC
Member since 1984
+113|6689|Denver, CO

travisb05 wrote:

how many times is someone going to post about this i think its the 5th post about it know one cares.
well... judging by the amount of replies here... it seems to me some people do care.  Whether they agree or not is a different matter. 

In the case of your reply though. 
1.  It contributes nothing to any of the conversations on this thread.
2.  Formed as a question that immediately answers itself.  If you already know the answer then don't bother wasting your 'valuable' time and making a post.
3.  Only hurts your own opinion, because by actually reading this thread and posting on it.  Shows that YOU care.
dan500
Member
+57|6857

INCSOC wrote:

Impaqt wrote:

Are ANY of the 1.4 Servers Ranked yet?  Seems to me it would be silly for EA to allow Beta servers to be ranked at all...

(Havent installed 1.4 yet....  Dunno if I will...)
it looks like some of them are ranked, however i'm not sure if the stats are actually recorded.
There not, its a error reading from gamespy..
INCSOC
Member since 1984
+113|6689|Denver, CO
ok so i'm reading the ROE again to refresh my memory and here's what i thought of:

roe wrote:

3 LOCAL (PRIVATELY RENTED) RANKED SERVER RULES MODIFICATIONS

These are rules that are not enforced upon in EA’s public ranked servers but may be modified in privately rented ranked servers. These rules are decided by clan administrators for those servers and as long as they do not contradict any global rules enforced by EA are considered valid for those servers.

This would include but not limited to:
§ Artillery fire or bombing runs on main (uncapturable) bases may be prohibited.
§ Prolonged or sustained attacks on main (uncapturable) bases (i.e. spawncamping).
§ Using the Transport Helicopters to take flags (Blackhawk whoring or flag hopping).
§ Impersonating clan members.
§ Using C4 on jeeps, or other fast moving vehicles to take out other vehicles.
§ Clans may change or customise rules, provided they don’t violate the above ROE rules.
If a server was to make a rule like:
"Snipers may not use rooftops or they will be kicked/banned"
"Armors may not use main roads to travel to locations or they will be kicked/banned"
"Aircraft may not fly above 20ft or they will be kicked/banned"

they would be perfectly legal and do not violate ROE ... weird and funny but true
137[CSi]
Headshot Specialist
+104|6847|Woodland Hills, Ca
the ROE was never written by EA. Jesus fucking christ, it is sponsored by EA and Gamespy.

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