Kurlowski
Member
+7|6536|St. Louis
I was playing on some 24/7 KAW Sharqi and the game just started. I ran to the heli and jumped it. There was a KAW member as pilot and a KAW member was standing outside of the heli as if he was supposed to be where I was, in the gunners seat. The KAW pilot started spamming BAIL OUT, JUMP OUT, HOP OUT! I said negative cause theres no way I am going to get out, I got in fair and square. Then he said, " Oh Kurlowski looks like your ping is high" I checked it was like 60-70. And then I got kicked. Reason? Just said High Ping.

Looks like that stupid clan got there way afterall. I now avoid all servers where  theres more than 3 clan members in it.
Zeon.
l33t sp33k Specialist
+159|6569|Behind j00OMFG HAX, Bristol UK
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gazzie
Pulls out gun, Watch him run
+39|6734|England
Dude you got to respect them though im sure if i paid x amount for a server i would want to get the most out of it. They could also be using teamspeak or ventrilo meaning they would work better as a team.

And zeon lolz
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6707|NJ
F that they might be paying for the server but without people playing on their server there would be no game.
Arkanon
Member
+3|6707|London, UK
Yeah, if it was their server, it's their money going into it.

If someone tells me to bail out, I'm outta there. There's nothing worse than a pissy chopper pilot. Sulking at 100m off the ground will just get you both killed.

On the other hand, there's nothing better than a chopper pilot who actually lands next to you and yells "Hop in!", then proceeds to show that he is the dog's bollocks when it comes to piloting.

Last edited by Arkanon (2006-06-27 08:28:17)

CLEVERLITTLETROJAN
I killed you,you just don't know it yet
+18|6626|birmingham,uk
But still admins should remember that without ppl like us there would be no need to have a server. are they going to pay all that money so they can just fly there chopper all day with noone in there just them self's what ever happened to fair play
LockerFish
Member
+47|6717
um, it's a clan. I'm sure there's always going to be plenty of members to start it. And all they have to do is recruit more people if there isn't. It's really simple. And good luck finding servers without clan members. They/we don't join to ruin your noob-ass game, kid. One of us joins and more get back from a real life and see us on xfire: "oh, he's playing Bf2, I'll join". Bam. It's just that simple.
Arkanon
Member
+3|6707|London, UK
Some probably do only put money in so that they can fly a chopper around all day, yeah.

It would be nice if they'd accept that other people want some gunnery fun, but they're in charge of the ban list. All us freeloaders can do is avoid servers that make us feel unwelcome.
Kurlowski
Member
+7|6536|St. Louis
Well when I joined there were 7 players. I looked at the scores.  0 0 0 0 0 . Cleaerly because there were not enough to players to start the game. I joined and made it 8 and the game started. Sure enough when I went and looked at that server refreshed. The scores were back to 0 0 0 0 0 . So the game stopped cause they kicked me. Kind of dumb to stop the game just cause your buddy didnt get the gunner seat with you, but whatever.
the_outsider38
Microsoft Poster Child
+83|6706|Vancouver BC Canada

gazzie wrote:

Dude you got to respect them though im sure if i paid x amount for a server i would want to get the most out of it. They could also be using teamspeak or ventrilo meaning they would work better as a team.

And zeon lolz
Yep, i know my clan does it, the TS that is, although the other day while me and a clan mate are flying we get rammed by this J-10, we were in a bad spot so i was like w/e but then we get back to the carrier and were waiting for our chopper when this fricking private comes up and stands with us. Somehow he managed to get pilot and i got gunner then he has the nerve to tell me to get out. He then proceded to do barrel rolls, loops, spins etc. Gave him a few warnings,"Fly or kick" but no he continued, that is untill he was kicked.

So, yes everyone should get a chance, but don't be a frickin asshat about it. People are paying for the servers that YOU use, if you dont like it use the EA official servers.

Sry, im out of karma, ill + you ASAP.

Last edited by the_outsider38 (2006-06-27 08:37:26)

Kurlowski
Member
+7|6536|St. Louis

the_outsider38 wrote:

gazzie wrote:

Dude you got to respect them though im sure if i paid x amount for a server i would want to get the most out of it. They could also be using teamspeak or ventrilo meaning they would work better as a team.

And zeon lolz
Yep, i know my clan does it, the TS that is, although the other day while me and a clan mate are flying we get rammed by this J-10, we were in a bad spot so i was like w/e but then we get back to the carrier and were waiting for our chopper when this fricking private comes up and stands with us. Somehow he managed to get pilot and i got gunner then he has the nerve to tell me to get out. He then proceded to do barrel rolls, loops, spins etc. Gave him a few warnings,"Fly or kick" but no he continued, that is untill he was kicked.

So, yes everyone should get a chance, but don't be a frickin asshat about it. People are paying for the servers that YOU use, if you dont like it use the EA official servers.

Sry, im out of karma, ill + you ASAP.
Yes but its not like I WAS an asshat about it. I am a First Ssergeant, so its not like they mistaked me for a n00b that would crash or not do anything. Plus I wasnt in the pilot seat I was just gunning. Hes the one that was the asshat for spamming and kicking me. I dont care how much you pay, to me you look like some whiney 5 year old if you kick cause you dont get your way.
Zeon.
l33t sp33k Specialist
+159|6569|Behind j00OMFG HAX, Bristol UK
Maybe he is?
Echo
WOoKie
+383|6731|The Netherlands

gazzie wrote:

Dude you got to respect them though im sure if i paid x amount for a server i would want to get the most out of it. They could also be using teamspeak or ventrilo meaning they would work better as a team.

And zeon lolz
The fact that they pay for the server doesn't mean shit. That doesn't give them the right to violate the ROE.

the ROE wrote:

§1.5 Server administrators may not explicitly or implicitly (by actions) enforce restrictions on vehicles or weapons that players can use while on your server (e.g. knives only, aircraft prohibited except for clan members, etc.)

    * § Infantry only Servers
    * § Kicking Players who use vehicles or aircraft
    * § Limiting certain vehicles or aircraft for non clan members
Tjasso
the "Commander"
+102|6535|the Netherlands

Kurlowski wrote:

I was playing on some 24/7 KAW Sharqi and the game just started. I ran to the heli and jumped it. There was a KAW member as pilot and a KAW member was standing outside of the heli as if he was supposed to be where I was, in the gunners seat. The KAW pilot started spamming BAIL OUT, JUMP OUT, HOP OUT! I said negative cause theres no way I am going to get out, I got in fair and square. Then he said, " Oh Kurlowski looks like your ping is high" I checked it was like 60-70. And then I got kicked. Reason? Just said High Ping.

Looks like that stupid clan got there way afterall. I now avoid all servers where  theres more than 3 clan members in it.
i'd Blow 'em out of the sky and say Sorry ! @$$HOLES !!!

WHY DONT YOU NOOBS LEARN TO SHARE !!! LEARN TO PLAY WITH OTHERS ... tk-ING sPAMMING PLANE/CHOPPER - WHORES YOUR THE WORST I EVER SET MY EYES ON ... A HOOAH FOR ALL YOU GRUNTS,
GO SQUAD GO !!!

P.S. DONT FORGET !! ;there are Pilots/gunners who definitly are good and a big help for the TEAM ! MANY THANKS !
elmo1337
Banned
+186|6571|The real world
Slashed06
Member
+44|6569
Nah that is bloody annoying !! I've had that done. Its not fair at all.
[PHPR]-SpecialOps
Member
+18|6793|Your six is my twelve
It all comes down to a matter of rank, the higher ranks get the chopper, and clan members should both be able to get in the chopper.  If i have some PFC noob that got into the chopper before my dad (yes, my dad plays BF2 with me), and doesn't get out, then I'll just take him for a trip to the edge of the map, give him a chance to bail out over a flag after 5 seconds, and if he doesn't, then you gets to go for the full 10 seconds.

If someone does get out for my dad or my brother or anyone else in my clan, then I'll give them the chopper if we die.  Also, I think that there should be some kind of rank requirement for being in a chopper.  I see these corporals and what not get in the chopper and then CRASH it, over and over and over again.  It's bad enough to be shot down by AA when you're in a chopper, but being shot down by a tree is just.. unbelievable.
Higher ranked players should have priority when it comes to anything.  Some non-coms do fly better then generals, but not many.

The only true solution that would make EVERYONE happy would be to have a remake of DC_NoFlyZone (20 jets on each side) or to have some kind of license system to get into vehicles.  And people with higher standings on the license should be able to kick out people in the chopper that are lower then them just by pressing "e," just like how it works on single player.  Except people get pissed off because they aren't flying. And we're back to the infallible option, a remake of DC_NoFlyZone.
the_outsider38
Microsoft Poster Child
+83|6706|Vancouver BC Canada

Kurlowski wrote:

the_outsider38 wrote:

gazzie wrote:

Dude you got to respect them though im sure if i paid x amount for a server i would want to get the most out of it. They could also be using teamspeak or ventrilo meaning they would work better as a team.

And zeon lolz
Yep, i know my clan does it, the TS that is, although the other day while me and a clan mate are flying we get rammed by this J-10, we were in a bad spot so i was like w/e but then we get back to the carrier and were waiting for our chopper when this fricking private comes up and stands with us. Somehow he managed to get pilot and i got gunner then he has the nerve to tell me to get out. He then proceded to do barrel rolls, loops, spins etc. Gave him a few warnings,"Fly or kick" but no he continued, that is untill he was kicked.

So, yes everyone should get a chance, but don't be a frickin asshat about it. People are paying for the servers that YOU use, if you dont like it use the EA official servers.

Sry, im out of karma, ill + you ASAP.
Yes but its not like I WAS an asshat about it. I am a First Ssergeant, so its not like they mistaked me for a n00b that would crash or not do anything. Plus I wasnt in the pilot seat I was just gunning. Hes the one that was the asshat for spamming and kicking me. I dont care how much you pay, to me you look like some whiney 5 year old if you kick cause you dont get your way.
I didn't say you were wrong, just that the guy in guy in my example was. So long as you do gun for him and don't be a tard, (which it looks like you weren't) then you are in the right.

I belive my example fall under this ROE.

ROE wrote:

§2.3 You may not deliberately hinder your own team or acting in such as way as to cause team mates unavoidable deaths or team losses.
gazzie
Pulls out gun, Watch him run
+39|6734|England

General-Echo wrote:

gazzie wrote:

Dude you got to respect them though im sure if i paid x amount for a server i would want to get the most out of it. They could also be using teamspeak or ventrilo meaning they would work better as a team.

And zeon lolz
The fact that they pay for the server doesn't mean shit. That doesn't give them the right to violate the ROE.

the ROE wrote:

§1.5 Server administrators may not explicitly or implicitly (by actions) enforce restrictions on vehicles or weapons that players can use while on your server (e.g. knives only, aircraft prohibited except for clan members, etc.)

    * § Infantry only Servers
    * § Kicking Players who use vehicles or aircraft
    * § Limiting certain vehicles or aircraft for non clan members
Who goes by the ROE anywayz i break a rule everyday in the ROE so i dont give a crap about there stupid rules. The day i go by the ROE is when they stop fucking up the game with the new patches. Hail cougar with his post about the ROE.

Well if you dont like clans trying to play as a team in a server they own then go play the official EA servers. I know i can do twice as good talking to a clan member over teamspeak then a gunner getting in that has to spot the enemy. Theres more pro's about getting into a chopper with a clan member than there is with a non clan member.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6707|NJ
First off, it's a game which means everything on the gaming server is fair game to anyone on the server. If the clan doesn't want people flying or gunning on the server they can just put a password on the server and be done with it.  Ranks and everything else don't matter again it's a game and everyone gets a chance to get into a copter or jet and to get kicked because the pilot wants an other gunner is retarded.  Everyone is so worried about winning and points that it's retarded.

And the annoimis - karma guy way to go champ
Kurlowski
Member
+7|6536|St. Louis
Oh how nice I got a -Karma saying 'you faggot'. How mature is that. At least leave a legit reason. Sigh...
[PHPR]-SpecialOps
Member
+18|6793|Your six is my twelve
They should have the karma thing automatically show who gave the karma, as well as a street address so that you can go pound them into the ground.
Edit - So long as they don't have a good reason to give you negative karma, as that is usually the case.

Last edited by [PHPR]-SpecialOps (2006-06-27 12:18:08)

gazzie
Pulls out gun, Watch him run
+39|6734|England

cpt.fass1 wrote:

First off, it's a game which means everything on the gaming server is fair game to anyone on the server. If the clan doesn't want people flying or gunning on the server they can just put a password on the server and be done with it.  Ranks and everything else don't matter again it's a game and everyone gets a chance to get into a copter or jet and to get kicked because the pilot wants an other gunner is retarded.  Everyone is so worried about winning and points that it's retarded.

And the annoimis - karma guy way to go champ
The thing is you cant just say its a game and ranks didnt mean anything. Most people play for the best ranks at certain stuff battlefield 2 isnt just a game its a competition to become the best.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6707|NJ
Well then be the best helicopter pilot you can be. You have control over the whole copter don't worry about the gunner. I just worry about ranks for unlocks and stats(like k/d, aiming)for braging rights against my friends. So when someone jumps in a helo with me I'm not too worried about it, and it doesn't matter who it is. If they person sucks I'll try to leave them behind the next time or fly as if they weren't in the copter.
[1stSSF]=Nuka=
Banned
+23|6761|PDX Metro Area, OR, US, SOL
Well, if you are on our server (or we're on a server with you), we'll politely ask you to bail out. If you don't, we'll let you ride. OTOH, often clanmembers are on Vent/TS and communicate very well, which gives your team an advantage, if you are willing. The question that should be asked of you is, "Do you do everything for yourself (points) or do you try to win every round?"

Maybe you ARE a god gunner...I know I'm not. I can get some when I fly (39 kills on Dalian this am, for example, mostly with TVGs), but I'm always willing to let others play. I want to win and I don't care as much about my points or K...it's all about the winning for me.

Maybe you could do well in that seat...maybe you can't. They certainly shouldn't have kicked ya, tho...that's just lame.

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