BF2S Forums Close range sniping

Nyte wrote:

stryyker wrote:

statspadder.com is a website for people who suck more than they admit themselves to believe. its true, dont try and deny it

I deny that wild allegation. DENIED!

suit yourself.

TurDlich wrote:

TrueArchon wrote:

What gets me more than anything about this guide (and many other posts), is the degree of technical thought put into this game.  Changing DPI settings?  Buying a specific mouse type?  Graphics setting changes?  Ok, not to say that I haven't changed my graphics settings for better advantage since I recently purchased a better computer, but I did pretty well beforehand.

Well, try to think about the guide in a critical way.  Read between the lines here.  This guide has Nyte's mark of arrogance all over it, but that should not eliminate anyone from his audience of readers.  Hardware DOES make a difference.  If you like sniping so much, you might want to consider a better mouse.  (Forget about it being a must.  Like Nyte, I'm lucky enough to have a G5. which I now consider the G5 must for myself when I play, because it is superior to any mouse I have ever used.  Only natural to pimp the sweet stuff if you've used it.  Using my old rig and MX500 is a lot different than the new stuff.) Changing settings DOES make a difference.  Reducing the effects of lag (whatever kind it is) can only help when trying to make precision shots with say, I don't know, um a sniper rifle.  If you can't appreciate this then you need to play online FPS more.  Good hardware that works properly together, as well as, proper settings in drivers, games, etc. is an advantage over people just like TrueArchon.  Their gaming skill is bottle necked by ignorance of their rig.  Just cuz Nyte didn't say it pleasingly, doesn't mean it has no merit.

Wow... you missed the point of my meaning.  Maybe I screwed up, and didn't put it clear manner.

Knowledge of your rig is fine, and definitely worth taking some note of, but saying something along the lines of...

Nyte wrote:

Requirements:
1) The mouse matters.  I don't care what anyone says, this is the be-all and end-all of close range sniping.

... implies a false sense of "ownage" dependent solely upon hardware.

TurDlich wrote:

Good hardware that works properly together, as well as, proper settings in drivers, games, etc. is an advantage over people just like TrueArchon.  Their gaming skill is bottle necked by ignorance of their rig.

Honestly, you don't know me from Adam, and a remark like this shows a measure of ignorance.  My point wasn't that I don't know my own rig (in fact, quite the opposite).  The point was that everyone learns to compensate for how bad, or good, their own rigs run.  For example, Nyte did make a very valid point here that deserves merit:

Nyte wrote:

.... And please, if you intend to learn aiming well, DON'T buy a new mousepad/mouse every couple of months, it effectively "resets" your "memory" of your mouse/mousepad combo. ....

However, his "be-all and end-all" statement contradicts this statement's meaning.  Given that I said the following in my post (underlined)... 

TrueArchon wrote:

What gets me more than anything about this guide (and many other posts), is the degree of technical thought put into this game.  Changing DPI settings?  Buying a specific mouse type?  Graphics setting changes?  Ok, not to say that I haven't changed my graphics settings for better advantage since I recently purchased a better computer, but I did pretty well beforehand.  However, if I decided to change my mouse for a gaming mouse, it'd screw up everything I've learned through muscle-memory!

... implies I do know my rig.  In fact, I know it well enough that if I did decide to shy away from what you describe as "gaming skill" being "bottleneck for ignorance" because of my choice of keeping the mouse that I like, I'd probably be hurt more for it in the long run, until I did learn it all over again.

So, my point towards Nyte was that his idea of guide for being a good "close range sniper" was more of a guide more written towards being a "better equiped gamer."

Out of curiousity, Nyte has this written:

Nyte wrote:

It's 2.97 actually, I like to go by www.statpadder.com rather than this site because it calculates everything starting from the beginning (Which is 1 year ago!!).  I started off pretty crappy (I had a ~0.5 KDR in my first month of playing as a Sniper in June).

A very nice site I must say.  Props to you Nyte.

Anyways, if I said that my Sniper Rifle KDR over the past week (based on Nyte's discovered site) has been 2.68, would you lend more credence to my opinion of his hardware recommendations?  Probably not.  But does it really matter?  No, because I know how my own rig works, as I'm pretty sure that you and he are familiar with your own rigs.

In the end, my opinion of Nyte's thread was that his guide should have centered a bit more around "close range sniping" vs. "gaming equipment."

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Todd_Angelo wrote:

Good post TrueArchon.

Thanks!  Same to you!

I propose an alternate term for those who might be hung up on the title/description: close-range snipering.

Todd_Angelo wrote:

I propose an alternate term for those who might be hung up on the title/description: close-range snipering.

like close-range sniping?

I'm not a great sniper...In fact I'm pretty rubbish. But I am better at close quater sniping then long range sniping. But I do understand bullet drop a bit more now and I'm starting to get better, I hope.

RD_The_Dog wrote:

Who needs a close range sniper rifle when you have the m11-87 or AK?

People who also want to snipe from a distance. Just because it's about close quarters doesn't mean that's your whole playing style. Read the guide and interpret it when needed. There's hardly anything to worry about when you're sniping from 400m but when you do run into someone while you're out and about it'll be easier to defend yoursef. Look outside the box people.

use a knife short range

RD_The_Dog wrote:

irok100 wrote:

THANKYOU....i snipe just fine with a 800 DPI if you have seen the vid under my sig, you will realize that its not so bad once used to... i also think the close range sniping is redundant...

Close range sniping IS redundant.  First person to say it.  Very bright man as well.  Close range sniping IS redundant.  I couldnt agree more.  Close range sniping is redundant.  Redundant.  Redundant . Redundant.  I wish i could repeat it over and over and over and over again.

IROK100, you settled this.  Sniping (like some1 said way before this) is the art of killing from a distance.

Plus 1 to you buddy

The advantage you get from close range sniping is also that you have a weapon that can operate at medium-long distances.

I guess sniping close range is an extra bonus if you already know the medium-long skillset.  By knowing close-range sniping, you effectively become a multiversed sniper.

easy-skanking wrote:

someone needs to look up redundant .. i think you mean oxymoron

no point in taking advice from nyte unless you need tips on how to suck at bf2

LMAO

Nyte wrote:

By knowing close-range sniping, you effectively become a multiversed sniper.

You actually become an assault player with no armour and a bolt action instead of auto/semi.

Good guide each one gets a little bit better, +1 for that.

Thanks for the tip on m95 i was actually unaware where to aim with that gun I just thought it was extremely inaccurate,lol.

I lol at the people getting annoyed with Nyte saying things like "God amongst snipers" etc as he is obviously doing it to get a reaction out of you and wants to see you say "Omfg Stfu U n00b i could knife you in the face if I was 1v1 with you"

Although he is not literally a "God" (Well if he was I mean his kill:death ratio would be sweet) he is a damm good shot as proved in his assault montage and numerous sniper videos.

Last edited by _The.Don_05 (2006-06-08 05:59:16)

we've yet again managed to go from actually arguing about the subject to arguing about each others method of arguing or other pointless topics