_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7008|Riva, MD
I had to leave my friends house before installed the drivers properly and something happened when he disabled on-board video so neither one displays anything and the monitor doesn't detect a display device.  Is there a way to re-enable it from the outside?  If not, how else can I re-enable it or get the thing to work again?

Last edited by _j5689_ (2006-05-24 08:51:38)

King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6889|Seattle

You could try clearing the CMOS.
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liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6919|UK

King_County_Downy wrote:

You could try clearing the CMOS.
exactly what i was going to say
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7008|Riva, MD
What does that mean and how do I do it?
liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6919|UK
to completey reset your bios to its original values remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins or so
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7008|Riva, MD
Also, what is the name of that site that looks at the specs of your comp, and then compares it with the required specs of a game?
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6889|Seattle

You have to find it on the mainboard, it should say someting like "clrcmos" or something to that effect. Get a little jumper thing like the one you see on the hard drive for moving slave-->matser. Shut down the computer, put your jumper on the clcmos, boot it up for about 20 seconds, then shut it down, remove the jumper and try it.
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_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7008|Riva, MD

liquidat0r wrote:

to completey reset your bios to its original values remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins or so
Are you reffering to the hearing aid/watch/flat battery thing that's on the mobo?  Will the computer still acknowledge the video card when I turn it on so I can install the drivers?  The reason it happened was because my friend did something wrong with the installation.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7008|Riva, MD

King_County_Downy wrote:

You have to find it on the mainboard, it should say someting like "clrcmos" or something to that effect. Get a little jumper thing like the one you see on the hard drive for moving slave-->matser. Shut down the computer, put your jumper on the clcmos, boot it up for about 20 seconds, then shut it down, remove the jumper and try it.
You lost me at the jumper thing for moving hard drive slaves.
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6889|Seattle

_j5689_ wrote:

liquidat0r wrote:

to completey reset your bios to its original values remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins or so
Are you reffering to the hearing aid/watch/flat battery thing that's on the mobo?  Will the computer still acknowledge the video card when I turn it on so I can install the drivers?  The reason it happened was because my friend did something wrong with the installation.
You don't need to remove the battery if you jumper the clear cmos. There are still capacitors on the mobo that store electricity so removing the battery only partially clears it and it's just a shitty way to do it. If your mobo doesn't have a clear cmos, then do the battery thing. Be sure to use a paperclip or something metal to jump the pos/neg battery terminals too so it clears out those capacitors.
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liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6919|UK

_j5689_ wrote:

liquidat0r wrote:

to completey reset your bios to its original values remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins or so
Are you reffering to the hearing aid/watch/flat battery thing that's on the mobo?  Will the computer still acknowledge the video card when I turn it on so I can install the drivers?  The reason it happened was because my friend did something wrong with the installation.
Your not very technicaly minded are you

Yes i am refering to the 'watch battery'

_j5689_ wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

You have to find it on the mainboard, it should say someting like "clrcmos" or something to that effect. Get a little jumper thing like the one you see on the hard drive for moving slave-->matser. Shut down the computer, put your jumper on the clcmos, boot it up for about 20 seconds, then shut it down, remove the jumper and try it.
You lost me at the jumper thing for moving hard drive slaves.
If you don't know what a jumper is i would not reccomend doin this.

Get some manual help
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6889|Seattle

_j5689_ wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

You have to find it on the mainboard, it should say someting like "clrcmos" or something to that effect. Get a little jumper thing like the one you see on the hard drive for moving slave-->matser. Shut down the computer, put your jumper on the clcmos, boot it up for about 20 seconds, then shut it down, remove the jumper and try it.
You lost me at the jumper thing for moving hard drive slaves.
https://xs201.xs.to/xs201/06213/hard-drive-jumper-settings-overview.gif

These are jumpers. The motherboard uses the same ones so if you borrow your HD's, be sure to remember where you got it
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_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7008|Riva, MD

liquidat0r wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

liquidat0r wrote:

to completey reset your bios to its original values remove the CMOS battery for 10 mins or so
Are you reffering to the hearing aid/watch/flat battery thing that's on the mobo?  Will the computer still acknowledge the video card when I turn it on so I can install the drivers?  The reason it happened was because my friend did something wrong with the installation.
Your not very technicaly minded are you

Yes i am refering to the 'watch battery'

_j5689_ wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

You have to find it on the mainboard, it should say someting like "clrcmos" or something to that effect. Get a little jumper thing like the one you see on the hard drive for moving slave-->matser. Shut down the computer, put your jumper on the clcmos, boot it up for about 20 seconds, then shut it down, remove the jumper and try it.
You lost me at the jumper thing for moving hard drive slaves.
If you don't know what a jumper is i would not reccomend doin this.

Get some manual help
I only got into computer parts 5 months ago.
SuB
Member
+50|6967
ok find the book for your motherboard.. no book? right

if you do have the book search for "clearing the cmos" and it should show u the location of the jumpers

first turn off the psu
unplug the psu
open the case
earth yourself on the case (touch it)
search the motherboard for a sticking out plastic object which looks something like this
https://www.pcguide.com/intro/fun/z_000744jumpers.jpg
or this
https://www.dansdata.com/images/io006/cmosclr500.jpg
or possibly this
https://www.infopackets.com/graphics/cmos+jumper.gif
That image shows the battery too

with cmos reset or clrcmos written in small white writing next to it

there will likely be 3 pins
it will be on 2 of them, move it so it covers the centre pin and the pin that was uncovered

now look for the flat "hearing aid"battery and carefully remove it, it's important that you DO NOT touch both flat sides at once if you can help it, this can and will short it.
leave the battery out for a minimum of about 30 seconds,
replace battery,
put the plastic thing back on the 2 pins it was originally on
replace the side panel
plug psu back in
turn psu on
hit the power switch

if nothing displays on the monitor, turn off the pc
plug the monitor into the other display out
turn on the pc

still no luck.. report back here and we'll see what we can do

IMPORTANT: DO NOT BOOT THE SYSTEM WHILE THE JUMPER IS MOVED AS IT CAN/WILL SCREW THE MOTHERBOARD

Last edited by SuB (2006-05-24 09:23:22)

_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7008|Riva, MD
Should I have the monitor plugged into the video card or the mobo?

Last edited by _j5689_ (2006-05-24 10:07:28)

SuB
Member
+50|6967
after all that, try the mobo first, the video card will need drivers, and the onboard will need to be disabled to use it properly i should thing
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7008|Riva, MD
Let's get this straight.  I unplug everything, switch the jumper to the other side, take out the battery for 30 seconds or so, put it back, put the jumper back, and plug everything in.  Did I get it right?
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6889|Seattle

yep, clear the cmos, then try it again
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SuB
Member
+50|6967
yes just follow what i put step by step and u shud be fine
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7008|Riva, MD
I won't have a computer to get directions from when i'm doing this so I better hope I can remember it.
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6889|Seattle

It's a lot easier than it sounds.
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=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7125
Oh my god, people.
You don't have to do both.
You can do one or the other.
Either remove the battery for about 10 - 15 seconds or move the jumper for about 10 - 15 seconds.

And if you haven't done this yet, do you have the monitor plugged into the video card?
If onboard is disabled and you have a video card, just plug the monitor into the videocard and you should be able to get atleast 16-bit color on 800x600. then from there, install the video card drivers and whatever else you need and you should be fine.

Last edited by =[4th]=SlayThem (2006-05-24 11:22:12)

CrazeD
Member
+368|6964|Maine

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

Oh my god, people.
You don't have to do both.
You can do one or the other.
Either remove the battery for about 10 - 15 seconds or move the jumper for about 10 - 15 seconds.

And if you haven't done this yet, do you have the monitor plugged into the video card?
If onboard is disabled and you have a video card, just plug the monitor into the videocard and you should be able to get atleast 16-bit color on 800x600. then from there, install the video card drivers and whatever else you need and you should be fine.
I second that.
SuB
Member
+50|6967
well i thought id do the "worst case scenario"
and with SOME motherboard you DO have to do BOTH
since he hasn't stated which it is.. i mentioned both
better safe than sorry

so OH MY GOD PEOPLE can be taken elsewhere
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7125

SuB wrote:

well i thought id do the "worst case scenario"
and with SOME motherboard you DO have to do BOTH
since he hasn't stated which it is.. i mentioned both
better safe than sorry

so OH MY GOD PEOPLE can be taken elsewhere
I am a Computer tech and I have yet to see a mobo needing both.
And if he has a video card and is trying to use the disabled onboard, all he has to do is plug straight into the video card and he won't have to bother with resetting the CMOS.

If you have a videocard, at no point in time should you need to plug into the onboard, thus disabling it shouldn't mess anything up. Unless of course you're having display troubles and you need to test to see if it's a video card problem by plugging into the onboard.


And if you really were giong for "worst case scenario" then you should have said "you only need to do one or the other, but there are some cases where you might have to do both. So if doing one doesn't work, do both"


Anyways, some of the questions he is asking, I wonder if it's even a problem at all, or if he's just plugging into the onboard.

EDIT: Also, you don't have to disable onboard to have a properly working videocard. I leave mine enabled incase of emergencies.

Last edited by =[4th]=SlayThem (2006-05-24 12:09:41)

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