stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6935|California

im really motherfucking glad this game gets held over to the completely unable to play the game. forshame
petethecheese
Member
+9|6978|England
So here it is after 1.3.  Switch on computer, load up, log in and get a hatfull of gongs before teatime.  Effort required? Nil.  Sense of achievement? Nil. Point of actually having medals and ribbons now? Nil.  Sounds like BF1942.......

An EXPERT badge should denote just that - that you are highly skilled with that particular weapon / kit.  If they're going to give them away free with 10 packets of Kellogg's bloody cornflakes, then everybody is an expert, which means- in fact- that no-one is;  'expert' now becomes 'standard.

Introduction of Platinum medals, maybe to show who is actually skilled enough to struggle through a round stabbing 18 people.....?  Then why not leave it alone?

I hope to God this is scaremongering bollocks.

Mind you, WCR ribbon is a pain on the arse.......... lol
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6935|California

id rather never get the WCR than see this all happen
[killer]manxs
Member
+148|6864|San Diego C.A.
Wow...they always change that crap but the BIG gap between 1st  sergent to sergent major, what a sham

Last edited by [killer]manxs (2006-05-18 15:09:46)

eMarine
Gorgonnash PVP
+119|7059|Sacramento, Cal
War College Ribbon
Removed 3:1 win/loss ratio
Removed 45 point commander score in a round
Added 200 Wins
Added 25000 Global commander score
Increased time from 180000 (50h) to 360000 (100h)


This makes me soooo mad, I have a W/L of 2.53.  I really wanted to earn it.
Cbass
Kick His Ass!
+371|6909|Howell, Mi USA
<----- a little slow.


When is 1.3 due for release?
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137[CSi]
Headshot Specialist
+104|7052|Woodland Hills, Ca

petethecheese wrote:

Effort required? Nil.
I fail to see in your stats currently where the hard effort towards anything was put in. Much less how the changes affect any of the badges you dont have already minus the WCR ribbon.

Sense of achievement? Nil.
Its an FPS, I've been playing counterstrike source for 7 years now and I am still a nobody. But I enjoy the game, and thats why I keep playing it. I dont understand why everyone cries so much over the stupid awards aspect of this game.

Point of actually having medals and ribbons now? Nil.
What was the point behind getting them before this patch? They were never required for the 2nd lieutenant rank before the 1.2 patch, the only reason you need expert anything now is for the higher general ranks which the only people that should've been bitching about that is the 240 colonels playing the game.

An EXPERT badge should denote just that - that you are highly skilled with that particular weapon / kit.
Expert knife, and expert pistol are an item in your arsenal which getting expert in those areas is just as nill to me as getting expert tactical ordinance and grapling hook and zipline. They should have expert assault rifle and expert carbine etc etc etc in that case.

IMO it still takes 40 kills vanilla for expert selectable kit and 44 for special forces. Not just anyone can go and get 44 kills. Hell BlazinUK only has like 4 expert badges, I dont see him crying about anything dice is doing.

Introduction of Platinum medals, maybe to show who is actually skilled enough to struggle through a round stabbing 18 people.....?  Then why not leave it alone?
Isnt it painstakingly obvious they are trying to move the focus away from being a brass whore to a teamwork whore. Now that I have expert everything minus the vehicles I actually play as a team member now, I spawn as any kit thats needed, not as what I need to acrue hours for. I dont join a server with the sole purpose of trying to gun 18 dudes down with my pistol or stab 18 guys with my knife. Or trying to throw 90 medic bags for 25 heals.

They are trying to ENFORCE the teamplay aspect of the game that goes alone with nerfing the squad hopping exploit.

I dont see what the problem is?
Simon
basically
+838|6873|UK
Thanks for the info mate
bob_baur
Member
+5|6986|UK
Firstly haven't read the whole four pages, so this might have been already mentioned (sorry). But if you think about it there will be a load of guys out there who are struggling, loving the game though to obtain the badges and ribbons, ranks. EA have there new game coming online in the near future and like some of you have said you enjoy the aspect of getting the badges and the sense of completion. Well who is going to move over to BF2142 when they are still trying to obtain their war college ribbon or the sharpshooter medal? So EA will use to there advantage the patching system and will lower the requirements making it easier for people to complete BF2 and move on to the next challenge.  Secondly we have a load of people in the higher ranks not being able to achieve the next rank due to the high requirements. With the changes being suggested or speculated we will see far more generals being achieved and then again a sense of completion and on they will go to the next challenge BF2142!

Its a shame that the requirements are changing, its not because people can't get the badges and ribbons, people are getting them but EA feels there are not getting them quick enough for there new title and its no doubt patches and add ons!

The EA money train needs to keep moving!!!!
paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|6955
I hope its true and if it is i will be glad.

Just so I can move on to the next game, without leaving this one unfinished.
jnick
Member
+22|6997

petethecheese wrote:

So here it is after 1.3.  Switch on computer, load up, log in and get a hatfull of gongs before teatime.  Effort required? Nil.  Sense of achievement? Nil. Point of actually having medals and ribbons now? Nil.  Sounds like BF1942.......
I love when people say this.

No effort required huh? How would you get 150 hours in a plane? How do you get 100 total knife kills? As far as I can tell, you have to try and put effort towards it. Just because you met those requirements BEFORE the new patch; you still put effort into getting those hours.

When the new requirements come into play I will be able to get most of the veteran vehicle badges without playing for any more time . . . I'll just have to meet the IAR requirments. HOWEVER, I still had to get those 50 hours in the specific vehicle. I met the criteria, I just wasn't awarded for it yet.

No matter if they dropped the requirements to 5 hours, you still played in the specific vehicle/kit/army for that amount of time therefore you EARNED the award.

Hell, what if the new requirements were the original requirements when the game came out. People wouldn't say a word.

the only thing I'm a bit taken back by is scraping the EU Ribbon. Every other army has one, what make the EU any different?

Last edited by jnick (2006-05-18 16:09:38)

smacktardthefirst
Member
+30|6799|Good ol' Canada
Great now all the whiny little pussies can get their pretty little reward.................:rollseyes
Milkballs
Member
+16|6774|CT, US

137 wrote:

Its an FPS, I've been playing counterstrike source for 7 years now and I am still a nobody.
LOL Yea I been playin source for 7 years too...oh wait

Well, I like the changes and sorta don't at the same time. But I think it might be fun to splurge on the first day of patch and get a bunch of drumrolls in one round.
Snakeyezzz
Banned
+10|6874
I just wish that they would leave everything alone as is.........obviously this has the smell of too many whiners and crybabies attached to it and these are the morons that ALWAYS ruin a good game for everyone,

Bottom line?.........you dont like it?....dont play the game...simple as that!!
splixx
ChupaCABRA
+53|6954|Omaha, Nebraska
I can understand some of the changes and really like some of the hour requirements lowered a bit. But some of these are basically just given away now.. Oh well 50/50 on this I suppose.
Jack Bauer
WWJD - What Would Jack Do
+26|6769
wow, this really sucks for those of us who have managed to get the rediculous 18 knives in a round and what not.

way to go EA/DICE!

not that i had any confidence in them to begin with....
I.M.I Militant
We Are Not Alone In Here
+297|6934|Melbourne, Australia
wtf .. u fdont need 7 knife kills in a round anymore.. thats so fuken cheap man.. i worked my ass off to get mine and i bet alot of other people agree  DIS IS BS!!
Janus67
Tech God
+86|6810|Ohio, USA

137[CSI wrote:

]
Its an FPS, I've been playing counterstrike source for 7 years now and I am still a nobody. But I enjoy the game, and thats why I keep playing it. I dont understand why everyone cries so much over the stupid awards aspect of this game.
I am just gonna take the smart-ass way out and assume you are referring to the original counter-strike (and maybe including it with source) over the past 7 years...which, wow, I guess CS has been around about that long.
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|6888|Colorado
They are trying to get everyone to general in the hopes they will lose interest in the game & move on to 2142, sooner than later.

I will get most of the awards & then just play to play, thats when I have the most fun, not worrying about some badge but capping you in the face.

Ahhh 1942 its simplicity made it great.
k0balt
Member
+1|6861|Cincinnati, OH
Like I said in my previous post... This is sad, if they indeed change the requirements. So someone doesn't get all the badges and ranks? So what? Is it the end of the world?

Expert is Expert. These badges were created for Experts... Requirements are requirements. If it takes 200 hours to get something, it takes 200 hours to get something... Period. Stop whining and either work towards the 200 hours and get the award, or don't. You have choice.

That is so like people today. If something is hard so achive, they want the requirements to be lowered so that they feel "good about themselves" and get it... Hum... I think I would like a PHD in Astro Physics and I want it now and I only want to spend, hum, like two week on a sandy beach on vacation to get it...

Sure that is a stupid comparison, but it is so true. This is only a game, not life, but it just shows how people are these days... Everyone wants the prize without having to work for it...

Just my 2 cents...
Medic875
Member
+1|6880|Charlotte, NC USA

137[CSi] wrote:

petethecheese wrote:

Effort required? Nil.
I fail to see in your stats currently where the hard effort towards anything was put in. Much less how the changes affect any of the badges you dont have already minus the WCR ribbon.

Sense of achievement? Nil.
Its an FPS, I've been playing counterstrike source for 7 years now and I am still a nobody. But I enjoy the game, and thats why I keep playing it. I dont understand why everyone cries so much over the stupid awards aspect of this game.

Point of actually having medals and ribbons now? Nil.
What was the point behind getting them before this patch? They were never required for the 2nd lieutenant rank before the 1.2 patch, the only reason you need expert anything now is for the higher general ranks which the only people that should've been bitching about that is the 240 colonels playing the game.

An EXPERT badge should denote just that - that you are highly skilled with that particular weapon / kit.
Expert knife, and expert pistol are an item in your arsenal which getting expert in those areas is just as nill to me as getting expert tactical ordinance and grapling hook and zipline. They should have expert assault rifle and expert carbine etc etc etc in that case.

IMO it still takes 40 kills vanilla for expert selectable kit and 44 for special forces. Not just anyone can go and get 44 kills. Hell BlazinUK only has like 4 expert badges, I dont see him crying about anything dice is doing.

Introduction of Platinum medals, maybe to show who is actually skilled enough to struggle through a round stabbing 18 people.....?  Then why not leave it alone?
Isnt it painstakingly obvious they are trying to move the focus away from being a brass whore to a teamwork whore. Now that I have expert everything minus the vehicles I actually play as a team member now, I spawn as any kit thats needed, not as what I need to acrue hours for. I dont join a server with the sole purpose of trying to gun 18 dudes down with my pistol or stab 18 guys with my knife. Or trying to throw 90 medic bags for 25 heals.

They are trying to ENFORCE the teamplay aspect of the game that goes alone with nerfing the squad hopping exploit.

I dont see what the problem is?
This is one of the most right on posts of this whole thread. Does anyone have a link to something on an offical ea site anywhere in the world?
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|6888|Colorado
were all pirates! Arrrrrrrrrrrr! https://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:WAPZUZSCebxvbM:https://www.worth1000.com/entries/184500/184860QWYV_w.jpg
137[CSi]
Headshot Specialist
+104|7052|Woodland Hills, Ca

Janus67 wrote:

137[CSI wrote:

]
Its an FPS, I've been playing counterstrike source for 7 years now and I am still a nobody. But I enjoy the game, and thats why I keep playing it. I dont understand why everyone cries so much over the stupid awards aspect of this game.
I am just gonna take the smart-ass way out and assume you are referring to the original counter-strike (and maybe including it with source) over the past 7 years...which, wow, I guess CS has been around about that long.
I apologize for my ignorance. I have been playing source lately... LOL!!! CS:S is just the best version, ive played cs since 1.1, CZ, and as of most recent Source since HL2 was released.

So sorry for all of the CS guru's out there.

OFF TOPIC!!!

CS:S > CS 1.6

*runs and hides*
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|6980|Dallas
I wonder if they will change the time for expert combat class medals.  I am really not looking forward to playing support for 65 hours.

If not, ohh well.  At least I can qualify for the other ones before I die.
Stormscape666
Member
+2|6847|Soviet Canuckistan
This makes me want to invent a time machine, go back in time and murder everyone involved with the original making of CounterStrike.

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