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2006-05-01 08:41:37
IronFerret
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Trash500 wrote:

Fuck that.

Europe bought civilisation to africa, Then the bleeding hearts said "no no let the rule themselves, you are all so unfair"
Now they have mass murderers running countries, more civil wars than you can poke a stick at and any money given to them in aid including writting off the debts they have are spent on guns and helecopters, Nice one BONO you fucktard.

Fuck africa they bought it on themselves. When they have blown eachother half to death I say we just laugh and say whats a good job of self government they have done.
have you ever pick a history book once?
only thing europe brougth to africa was slavery, racism and injustice. some cultures are diferent than wetern ones you know.. they kind of exist, that doesnt mean that they are worst that you because they have no djs and internet, which means they dont need to be "civilized" (also civilized by europeans means explotation and stealing of natural resources for years and years).

and by the way in a such called debate and serious talk you dont call "FUCKTARD" the one dont think like you.. tha might give you a "intolerant-igonorant" status.

Last edited by IronFerret (2006-05-01 08:47:16)

2006-05-01 08:54:43
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6840|132 and Bush

Hopefully a peace agreement can be reached. If UN troops are sent in hopefully the majority will not be US troops. Why? I don't think i can handle anymore of the US bashing. Let's see how the other member's perform.

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-05-01 08:55:45)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
2006-05-01 09:04:44
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6883
its funny how you got protests against the iraq war and protests for intervention in sudan simultainously
2006-05-01 09:31:00
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7076

Trash500 wrote:

Europe bought civilisation to africa,
To be more correct it should read "Western Civilization or Civilization as we know it."

Trash500 wrote:

Then the bleeding hearts said "no no let the rule themselves, you are all so unfair"
Actually for one, Colonies became to costly to maintain. There was some aluturisim envloved to be sure.

Trash500 wrote:

Now they have mass murderers running countries, more civil wars than you can poke a stick at and any money given to them in aid including writting off the debts they have are spent on guns and helecopters, Nice one BONO you fucktard.
Unfortunately this seems to be true, But it makes great news so the Horror stories are often Headline Front page news Or the Nightly lead story of the networks.
The Great strides being accomplished in Africa and Iraq Basically go unnoticed. We all agree the Press has a Heavy Liberal Slant and cant be trusted. Do we not ?

Trash500 wrote:

Fuck africa they bought it on themselves.
I cant really agree with you here but in The last 100 years or so that they have been on their own, it seems little good gets accomplished there.

Trash500 wrote:

When they have blown eachother half to death I say we just laugh and say whats a good job of self government they have done.

IronFerret wrote:

have you ever pick a history book once?
only thing europe brougth to africa was slavery, racism and injustice.
This remark has a Fairy tale feel to it. 100 percent of anything in Africa is the Work of God or the "Off Continent Nations".
When Slavery Ended in Africa, it was White Northern Europeans who Ended it to be sure.
I have been told Africa is the Sole place where slavery still exists today.

IronFerret wrote:

some cultures are diferent than wetern ones you know.. they kind of exist, that doesnt mean that they are worst that you because they have no djs and internet, which means they dont need to be "civilized" (also civilized by europeans means explotation and stealing of natural resources for years and years).
Again The argument needs to be more based in Reality,
What's a "djs" ? ?
Off Continent Nations are buying resources that African nations would have no access to on their own.
It is rather a good deal for them these past few years compared with how they would be if Off Continent Nations didn't discover these resources for them.

IronFerret wrote:

and by the way in a such called debate and serious talk you dont call "FUCKTARD" the one dont think like you.. tha might give you a "intolerant-igonorant" status.
I cant really comprehend your last line but a gather it is an insult, English is a Second language no doubt. Are you a bono Fan ? lol.
2006-05-01 09:37:00
JahManRed
wank
+646|6867|IRELAND

Trash500 wrote:

IronFerret wrote:

you aint going there cos theres no oil for you, just like ruanda. and i dont meant just US.. Europe is responsable for the historical mess its Africa, europe`s colony. They mange it to fuck up the whole continent and then leave it up when they become "liberal and democratic" so now they made chesy movies about it and have wealth care ONG`s. Not to forget that most natural resources are beeing "exploted" (it think steal is the proper word) by europeans coroporations.

i think its a great oportunity to diplomacy come out to the mainstream again.
Fuck that.

Europe bought civilisation to africa, Then the bleeding hearts said "no no let the rule themselves, you are all so unfair"
Now they have mass murderers running countries, more civil wars than you can poke a stick at and any money given to them in aid including writting off the debts they have are spent on guns and helecopters, Nice one BONO you fucktard.

Fuck africa they bought it on themselves. When they have blown eachother half to death I say we just laugh and say whats a good job of self government they have done.
Oh yes it would be better if the white man was back rulling the savages. Brought it on themselves? As was said, it was europe messing with Africa,rulling it, then pulling out leaving a power vacum. Democracy was never given a chance. The stronger man took control and thats how it is. Dictatorships. Most of these dictators are left there because they play ball and export the oil. Africa is full of oil.

Something needs to be done. The UN sat back and let civilians get slaughtered because they needed a mandate to engage. By the time they got it the civilains had been slaughtered.
2006-05-01 09:47:41
Trash500
Member
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The " Fucktard" comment is aimed at the singer of U2 who is a fucktard. He medles in things he knows little about and thinks he is saving the world. To right off debt is a nice thing, I wish someone would do it for me but it doesnt solve a god damn thing.
The governments are corrupt war mongers for a good proportion of the countries in africa. IornFerret does indeed seem to live in a fantasy world were the western world is evil stealers of other countries resources. Simply not true. he needs to read any books on the subject. They get money for what they sell. The fact they spend it on tanks and shit is nothing to do with us.

I am not a white supremist or rascist but I cant stand the way some people seem to think africas troubles are down to the way they were treated 100 years ago. FFS yes there were aspects that were not right when UK, France, ect had the colonies but you would think in the time they have had the peole would realise there governements suck and kick em out. USA did it, why is africa so different. It isnt.

The only difference I can see is they like to live off excuses and handouts.
Be honest if your government was as bad as theirs would you just sit there? They seem to.
2006-05-01 09:48:37
IronFerret
Member
+48|6896|Mexico City.

Horseman 77 wrote:

I cant really comprehend your last line but a gather it is an insult, English is a Second language no doubt. Are you a bono Fan ? lol
no fucking way!! bono is the gayiest chesy "peace activist" ever.
2006-05-01 10:07:00
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|6975|Salt Lake City

Horseman 77 wrote:

Unfortunately this seems to be true, But it makes great news so the Horror stories are often Headline Front page news Or the Nightly lead story of the networks.
The Great strides being accomplished in Africa and Iraq Basically go unnoticed. We all agree the Press has a Heavy Liberal Slant and cant be trusted. Do we not ?
Actually, that isn't true.  I just read an article last week about where the press lands in terms of their positions.  Fox News is slightly right of center.  The other news outlets tended to be centris to just left of center about as much as Fox was right of center.  While I'm sure there are media outlets that are very liberal, the bulk of the larger news broadcasts/papers/magazines aren't as zealously liberal as you make them out to be.
2006-05-01 10:13:01
Trash500
Member
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Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Actually, that isn't true.  I just read an article last week about where the press lands in terms of their positions.  Fox News is slightly right of center.  The other news outlets tended to be centris to just left of center about as much as Fox was right of center.  While I'm sure there are media outlets that are very liberal, the bulk of the larger news broadcasts/papers/magazines aren't as zealously liberal as you make them out to be.
I think his point was more of the "The press are out to sell papers/get you to watch their tv staion" variety. I don't know about political leanings But I agree that they jazz up the stuff they think will get you hooked and miss out on stuff like the people/ organisations that are really helping. Mainly because its boring.
2006-05-01 10:30:24
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7076

Trash500 wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Actually, that isn't true.  I just read an article last week about where the press lands in terms of their positions.  Fox News is slightly right of center.  The other news outlets tended to be centris to just left of center about as much as Fox was right of center.  While I'm sure there are media outlets that are very liberal, the bulk of the larger news broadcasts/papers/magazines aren't as zealously liberal as you make them out to be.
I think his point was more of the "The press are out to sell papers/get you to watch their tv staion" variety. I don't know about political leanings But I agree that they jazz up the stuff they think will get you hooked and miss out on stuff like the people/ organisations that are really helping. Mainly because its boring.
Does that fact that Fox news is the Only " Right of Center " Network in contrast to the

Thousands of others that are all " Left " register with anyone else ????

Can anyone name even one more Right or for that matter non Left Network. Anyone?

I feel like I am trying to define " Electron flow " to a Aboriganal tribesman sometimes.
2006-05-01 10:40:09
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7076

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

Unfortunately this seems to be true, But it makes great news so the Horror stories are often Headline Front page news Or the Nightly lead story of the networks.
The Great strides being accomplished in Africa and Iraq Basically go unnoticed. We all agree the Press has a Heavy Liberal Slant and cant be trusted. Do we not ?
Actually, that isn't true.  I just read an article last week about where the press lands in terms of their positions.  Fox News is slightly right of center.  The other news outlets tended to be centris to just left of center about as much as Fox was right of center.  While I'm sure there are media outlets that are very liberal, the bulk of the larger news broadcasts/papers/magazines aren't as zealously liberal as you make them out to be.
Where did you read that? In a Liberal magazine?

Yes they are Left and they admit it, but they say

" it doesn't affect their profesional conduct. "Sorry, It does.

So I didnt hear Cheers in the News rooms During the 92 Elections as States came in for clinton?

They say the want to make a difference in the World and effect policy.

This is Wrong. They should want only to report the truth.

Does that fact that Fox news is the Only " Right of Center " Network in contrast to the

Thousands of others that are all " Left " register with anyone else ????

Can anyone name even one more Right or for that matter non Left Network. Anyone?

I feel like I am trying to define " Electron flow " to a Aboriganal tribesman sometimes.
2006-05-01 10:49:46
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|6975|Salt Lake City

Horseman 77 wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

Unfortunately this seems to be true, But it makes great news so the Horror stories are often Headline Front page news Or the Nightly lead story of the networks.
The Great strides being accomplished in Africa and Iraq Basically go unnoticed. We all agree the Press has a Heavy Liberal Slant and cant be trusted. Do we not ?
Actually, that isn't true.  I just read an article last week about where the press lands in terms of their positions.  Fox News is slightly right of center.  The other news outlets tended to be centris to just left of center about as much as Fox was right of center.  While I'm sure there are media outlets that are very liberal, the bulk of the larger news broadcasts/papers/magazines aren't as zealously liberal as you make them out to be.
Where did you read that? In a Liberal magazine?

Yes they are Left and they admit it, but they say

" it doesn't affect their profesional conduct. "Sorry, It does.

So I didnt hear Cheers in the News rooms During the 92 Elections as States came in for clinton?

They say the want to make a difference in the World and effect policy.

This is Wrong. They should want only to report the truth.

Does that fact that Fox news is the Only " Right of Center " Network in contrast to the

Thousands of others that are all " Left " register with anyone else ????

Can anyone name even one more Right or for that matter non Left Network. Anyone?

I feel like I am trying to define " Electron flow " to a Aboriganal tribesman sometimes.
I want to say it was an article on the CNN web site.  The article was about a firm that did the study.  They were not paid by any media outlets to perform the study, it was simply to see where the major media outlets stood.

While I'm not disputing that most media outlets are centrist to left leaning, my point was simply that the major media outlets are not as far left leaning as you make them out to be.
2006-05-01 10:52:13
Kaosdad
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
+201|6918|Broadlands, VA
It really does not matter who goes - The U.S., the E.U., the U.N., SATO - you are not fighting a person or a politic, you are fighting a mind set.  My dad spent some time as a Naval Intel analyist for that area.  He told me the basic mind set is "If you are not from my tribe - you are not human.  You are an animal to be killed as I please."

So, send all the troops you want - they're just new targets.
2006-05-01 11:05:58
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7076

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:


Actually, that isn't true.  I just read an article last week about where the press lands in terms of their positions.  Fox News is slightly right of center.  The other news outlets tended to be centris to just left of center about as much as Fox was right of center.  While I'm sure there are media outlets that are very liberal, the bulk of the larger news broadcasts/papers/magazines aren't as zealously liberal as you make them out to be.
Where did you read that? In a Liberal magazine?

Yes they are Left and they admit it, but they say

" it doesn't affect their profesional conduct. "Sorry, It does.

So I didnt hear Cheers in the News rooms During the 92 Elections as States came in for clinton?

They say the want to make a difference in the World and effect policy.

This is Wrong. They should want only to report the truth.

Does that fact that Fox news is the Only " Right of Center " Network in contrast to the

Thousands of others that are all " Left " register with anyone else ????

Can anyone name even one more Right or for that matter non Left Network. Anyone?

I feel like I am trying to define " Electron flow " to a Aboriganal tribesman sometimes.
I want to say it was an article on the CNN web site.  The article was about a firm that did the study.  They were not paid by any media outlets to perform the study, it was simply to see where the major media outlets stood.

While I'm not disputing that most media outlets are centrist to left leaning, my point was simply that the major media outlets are not as far left leaning as you make them out to be.
That is your opinion. If Fox is one Network and the other 99 are left most americans will get the impression that Left is Center, you get me I am sure.
2006-05-01 11:11:54
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|6975|Salt Lake City

Horseman 77 wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:


Where did you read that? In a Liberal magazine?

Yes they are Left and they admit it, but they say

" it doesn't affect their profesional conduct. "Sorry, It does.

So I didnt hear Cheers in the News rooms During the 92 Elections as States came in for clinton?

They say the want to make a difference in the World and effect policy.

This is Wrong. They should want only to report the truth.

Does that fact that Fox news is the Only " Right of Center " Network in contrast to the

Thousands of others that are all " Left " register with anyone else ????

Can anyone name even one more Right or for that matter non Left Network. Anyone?

I feel like I am trying to define " Electron flow " to a Aboriganal tribesman sometimes.
I want to say it was an article on the CNN web site.  The article was about a firm that did the study.  They were not paid by any media outlets to perform the study, it was simply to see where the major media outlets stood.

While I'm not disputing that most media outlets are centrist to left leaning, my point was simply that the major media outlets are not as far left leaning as you make them out to be.
That is your opinion. If Fox is one Network and the other 99 are left most americans will get the impression that Left is Center, you get me I am sure.
And would you have the same problem if most were right leaning, and only 1 or 2 outlets were left leaning?
2006-05-01 11:13:27
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7076

Kaosdad008 wrote:

It really does not matter who goes - The U.S., the E.U., the U.N., SATO - you are not fighting a person or a politic, you are fighting a mind set.  My dad spent some time as a Naval Intel analyist for that area.  He told me the basic mind set is "If you are not from my tribe - you are not human.  You are an animal to be killed as I please."

So, send all the troops you want - they're just new targets.
" new targets" For a Tribesman?  So he fires a rifle and we fire back with Arty? Sounds ok here.

My money is on the 21 Century Soldier every time.
2006-05-01 12:45:03
MooseRyder
Member
+37|6894|Montréal, Canada

<{SoE}>Agamemnar wrote:

It was in the papers today that Canada is most likely going to send the military down there with or without U.N approval.
I seen that one coming when i read the Title of this thread lol

But I hope they gonna get backed up by the UN
2006-05-01 17:25:58
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6890|USA

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

its funny how you got protests against the iraq war and protests for intervention in sudan simultainously
Yeah, amazing isn't it?
2006-05-01 17:54:53
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6890|USA

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

lowing wrote:

Well if the UN is already there, then there is no reason for us to start meddling in foreign affairs, right? I mean after all, I posted a poll several weeks ago and the majority stated America needs to "mind its own business". 

If the UN is already there why is the genocide continuing?
Your statement demonstrates a severe lack of understanding of the situation.  Read up, then post:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_Genocide

Or alternatively, don't read up and join the 'majority' of America to remove itself from the rest of the world:  http://www.getusout.org/


EDIT: Thought I'd made my views clear, but it seems I'm being misrepresented again:

lowing wrote:

I gotta say unorginalnuttah,

I have no problem with you speaking out against human rights violations, but you seem to think that punishing the offenders of these attrocites is a human rights violation unto itself, and that is where we part company.
I believe in the concept of the ICC, unlike the American government.
Ok I read up, people are dying ( unless I just don't understand the situation correctly)  Now what was in there that was supposed to sway me to think that you and others like you are NOT hypocrites when you say America should mind its own business in world affairs then bitch when we aren't in Darfur saving everyone?

I have a problem with the US turning itself over to international courts ( wasn't the ICC put together by the UN?) when the representatives of this court belong to countries that have their own agendas in mind instead of the matter on the table. The US opposed its formation didn't they? Then why should the US recognize this court over its own sovereignty when dealing with US affairs. the same as I oppose the US turning its interests over to the UN. The US doesn't need the corrupt UN.

You believe in the corrupt UN and its courts, I believe in the sovereignty of nations.
2006-05-01 19:40:10
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6890|USA

Pubic wrote:

Iraq and Sudan are two very different situations.

Iraq was done for the wrong reasons.  Got WMDs?  Saddam didn't, but that didn't matter...Saddam is being bought to justice for some bad stuff he did, don't get me wrong, but lets face it.  Those charges are little more than an excuse to finish off something that should of been finished off ten years earlier.

Sudan, only time will tell, but people ARE being massacred; its genocide, plain and simple.  As such, any action there would, if taken for reasons of genocide, be much more justifiable than Iraq.

Liberal reasons for going to Darfur: People are suffering, they need to be fed, clothed and most importantly, PROTECTED.

Conservative reasons for going to Darfur: Yeah yeah, you'll help people be free and all that, but guess what?  Its those darned Johny ragheads doing all the killing and pushing.  Yes, you heard me, Arabs.  Muslims.  If you go there with an M16 in the name of freedom and liberty, guess who you'll get to shoot...
Uhhhhhhh are you telling us that genocide did not occur in Iraq? Are you stating that the people in Iraq were not being massacred and are not suffering or need to be fed or protected?

Please don't make me "wikipedia" yer ass
2006-05-02 04:38:00
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6893

lowing wrote:

Ok I read up, people are dying ( unless I just don't understand the situation correctly)
Simplistic at best. 

lowing wrote:

Now what was in there that was supposed to sway me to think that you and others like you are NOT hypocrites when you say America should mind its own business in world affairs then bitch when we aren't in Darfur saving everyone?
That couldn't be further from what I've said.  When did I say America should mind it's own business?  Never.  I don't even think that.  That's what you think, remember: "The US doesn't need the corrupt UN."  I think it should be a responsible team player on the world stage, and not just play by the UN rules when it suits their interests.  And before you start whining about hypocrisy this applies to my government in the UK too, and as I have said if my government refuses to provide assistance to the UN in the forthcoming peacekeeping operation in Darfur, then I will attend any protests I can.  The UN is there to ensure that people don't go around invading for no good reason, and to react fairly when unjust military action occurs.  Unfortunatly there isn't enough power when it comes to founding members doing such actions as there was too little forsight given to this (at the time) seemingly improbable situation.

One of the other sticking points of sending troops for a peacekeeping operation is that by the US definition, anyone the peacekeepers arrest for war crimes should be tried by special tribunals set up by government of the country they belong to... see any reason why people might be reluctant to send troops?  Remember, "a number of Security Council members want war criminals to be tried by the International Criminal Court, however the United States refused to support that proposition." 

Anyway, I'm sure you'll still keeping finding new amazing ways to 'forget' or 'misinterpret' what I've said. 

lowing wrote:

I have a problem with the US turning itself over to international courts ( wasn't the ICC put together by the UN?) when the representatives of this court belong to countries that have their own agendas in mind instead of the matter on the table. The US opposed its formation didn't they? Then why should the US recognize this court over its own sovereignty when dealing with US affairs. the same as I oppose the US turning its interests over to the UN. The US doesn't need the corrupt UN.
So are you also against juries made from a selection of citizens?  Essentially since there are multiple judges on each trial the role of the judges should be compared more to the role of a jury and it's absolute lunacy to say that American war crimes trials should only have American judges.  In my mind that's like saying a criminal should be only judged by a jury selected from their closest friends.  If the crimes are serious enought to warrant trial in an international court then the judges should be a selected from nations around the world. 

lowing wrote:

You believe in the corrupt UN and its courts, I believe in the sovereignty of nations.
You believe in the corrupt US and its closed door tribunals, I believe in universal justice.
2006-05-02 05:09:23
<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|6941|New York

JahManRed wrote:

Trash500 wrote:

IronFerret wrote:

you aint going there cos theres no oil for you, just like ruanda. and i dont meant just US.. Europe is responsable for the historical mess its Africa, europe`s colony. They mange it to fuck up the whole continent and then leave it up when they become "liberal and democratic" so now they made chesy movies about it and have wealth care ONG`s. Not to forget that most natural resources are beeing "exploted" (it think steal is the proper word) by europeans coroporations.

i think its a great oportunity to diplomacy come out to the mainstream again.
Fuck that.

Europe bought civilisation to africa, Then the bleeding hearts said "no no let the rule themselves, you are all so unfair"
Now they have mass murderers running countries, more civil wars than you can poke a stick at and any money given to them in aid including writting off the debts they have are spent on guns and helecopters, Nice one BONO you fucktard.

Fuck africa they bought it on themselves. When they have blown eachother half to death I say we just laugh and say whats a good job of self government they have done.
Oh yes it would be better if the white man was back rulling the savages. Brought it on themselves? As was said, it was europe messing with Africa,rulling it, then pulling out leaving a power vacum. Democracy was never given a chance. The stronger man took control and thats how it is. Dictatorships. Most of these dictators are left there because they play ball and export the oil. Africa is full of oil.

Something needs to be done. The UN sat back and let civilians get slaughtered because they needed a mandate to engage. By the time they got it the civilains had been slaughtered.
Ok Anyone remember the Movie Blackhawk down? Keep it fresh in your minds, because thats How its going to go the whole time ANY forces are in Africa.

Your last comment on the mandate, Very true, and Its those same mandates and sanctions that has made the war in Iraq that much worse. Iraq should have been delt with Long before it was, but i guess bombing a tent in the middle of the desert was good enough to take the heat off the ole cigar scandal! Ole saddam had PLENTY of time to move his weapons to Lybia. If you dont think they are there and ready to be used, you live in a fantasy world. Populatiojn wise, or Guns per person is so great in Africa, When we do go in(UN I hope) Your going to see Killing, the likes we havent seen since WW2. There better be alot of UN bodybags.

PS, Does canada even have an army? I seem to remember something about Subs there navy? bought awhile back that were extremely used, and they Literally Sunk? Hmmmmm makes you wonder.

Last edited by <[onex]>Headstone (2006-05-02 05:09:57)

2006-05-02 08:16:14
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7076

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:


I want to say it was an article on the CNN web site.  The article was about a firm that did the study.  They were not paid by any media outlets to perform the study, it was simply to see where the major media outlets stood.

While I'm not disputing that most media outlets are centrist to left leaning, my point was simply that the major media outlets are not as far left leaning as you make them out to be.
That is your opinion. If Fox is one Network and the other 99 are left most americans will get the impression that Left is Center, you get me I am sure.
And would you have the same problem if most were right leaning, and only 1 or 2 outlets were left leaning?
Yes I would It must be fair and unbiased. that seems to be a Forien concept to a Liberal, why is that?
2006-05-02 08:22:18
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7076

'<[onex wrote:

>Headstone'
Ok Anyone remember the Movie Blackhawk down? Keep it fresh in your minds, because thats How its going to go the whole time ANY forces are in Africa.
This is not true. The Rangers in Somalia asked for certain things They felt the mission reqiured like Armor etc. These were denied because the clinton adminastration didn't want our military response to look.." I have know Idea why he would't aid them really "
When the Sh*t hit the Fan clinton cut and ran. We don't do that anymore. You will have to wait till 98 at the least.
2006-05-02 08:44:57
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|6975|Salt Lake City

Horseman 77 wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:


That is your opinion. If Fox is one Network and the other 99 are left most americans will get the impression that Left is Center, you get me I am sure.
And would you have the same problem if most were right leaning, and only 1 or 2 outlets were left leaning?
Yes I would It must be fair and unbiased. that seems to be a Forien concept to a Liberal, why is that?
Who said I was a liberal?  If anything, I'm more of a centrist.  You seem to think because I'm not a right-winger that I must be a liberal?  Why is that conservatives think there is no middle ground?

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