G.I.JOE¤MFA¤
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+3|6699|Wherever Uncle Sams Needs Me.
everyone knows that when you play SF vid card takes a beating with the night maps

well first off heres my system:

P4 3.2 socket 478 (OCed to 3.6 gig)
2 gigs of ram
audigy 2 zs p/p (latest drivers)
BFG 6800 GT APG w/256 memory (using 84.26 MSI driver - clock speeds 2D = 370MHz - 3D = 370MHz and memory = 1000MHz)
windows XP Pro/SP2 updated

ok my BF2 vid settings:
all maxed out ior lowest settings but AA is off

video card settings via desktop properties:
all off or on lowest settings but image quality at best

BF2 runs great and looks great at 90-100 frames a sec via fraps

now for BF2:SF settings:
all off or lowest settings

video card settings via desktop properties:
all off or on lowest settings and image quality on quality of course

BF2:SF runs at around 30 frames a sec and game pauses for about 5 secs and gets me killed - yep theres a problem there

i run liquid cooling on the proccessor due to the heat the OC caused...vid card - im waiting for the water block to come in

since my BFG vid card is getting super hot (55 degrss celsius at idle and 67 degrees celsius when BF2 is running)  this is my problem - so instead of overclocking the vid card to improve gaming performance i underclocked it to cut back on that nasty heat (remember 60 degrees celsius = 140 degrees fahrenheit - so my 67 C = 152.6 F !!! )

using the 84.26 MSI dirver i can underclock my vid card 2D to 340MHz and the 3D to 340MHz and the memory clock to 975 MHz - my heating problem is solved and my frame rates in BF2:SF jumped from 30 frames  sec to 80-90 frames a second with no more lock-ups!!!

strange to do at first, underclock a vid card but if you happen to have heating problems try underclocking it...but dont go too much

im hoping with the video card water block i wont have to resort to this but while i wait for the shipment to arrive ill continue to do this to improve my systems performance in SF


btw im using Thermaltake Bigwater SE for my liquid cooling needs - works like a champ - dropped 20 degrees C on my proccessor
Cybargs
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i doubt it would help kill lag spikes...
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-_{MoW}_-Assasin
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+13|6698|Australia
im not one to underclock
Maj.Do
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+85|6721|good old CA
duh ocforum guy^
also since ur a pro ocing and stuff would u know alot about WC?
sixshot
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+50|6645|Planet Seibertron ;)

Maj.Do wrote:

duh ocforum guy^
also since ur a pro ocing and stuff would u know alot about WC?
mmmmm, watercooling... always wanted one... but couldn't spare for one.  The old phrase of "you get what you paid for" will hold true for watercooling.  Always wanted a Zalman Reserator... almost dropped for one too.  Just know that you're going to need a LOT of space to house some of the things in there.  But for the semi-external ones, space shouldn't be much of a problem.
Cybargs
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Maj.Do wrote:

duh ocforum guy^
also since ur a pro ocing and stuff would u know alot about WC?
he doesnt have WC... air cooling ftw, WC is overkill for me as well as him... get a good tuniq tower 120, the best air cooler out there
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Maj.Do
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+85|6721|good old CA
didnt they release a new neat looking heatsink^?  Looks pretty neat, theres like a fan in the middle of the heatsink
Janus67
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+86|6565|Ohio, USA
I also watercool, and btw, the Thermaltake Bigwater is supposidly pretty crappy.  I built my own watercooling system and it blows away any kit you can buy.  If one is going to buy a kit, buy the newer Swiftech, besides that none are very good.  The Bigwater is, from what I have read, very prone to leaks, and is very unportable.  Also, underclocking isn't very new at all, it has been around for a long time, many notebook users do this as well so that they can actually put the laptop on their laps.  It has also been a bit of a competition some places to see how low one can go.

oh, and water > air by far, as long as you don't cheap out and get some piece of crap. 

also ocforums is awesome!
FirePhoenix
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+18|6609|hamilton, scotland

Janus67 wrote:

oh, and water > air by far, as long as you don't cheap out and get some piece of crap. 
also ocforums is awesome!
qft!
i also water cool, people get the wrong idea that temps are supposed to instantly cut in half, the strong point of water cooling sint the idle temp its the max temp which for me is only 3 degrees above idle temp.
Janus67
Tech God
+86|6565|Ohio, USA
bingo.  I sit at 30C under idle and about 33C under intense load.  beat that air cooling (without having an air conditioner unit on your pc).
Maj.Do
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+85|6721|good old CA
psssh my old Passive cooling experiment had better temps but was huge.
-_{MoW}_-Assasin
Member
+13|6698|Australia
no water for me, too much maintenance, and whenever i end up having the money, i always spend it on something else. Im more saving up for a Phase Change cooler
Cybargs
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Maj.Do wrote:

didnt they release a new neat looking heatsink^?  Looks pretty neat, theres like a fan in the middle of the heatsink
i got it

water coolings main flaw was maintenace. if theres a leak... bye bye to ur 1337 pc
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Janus67
Tech God
+86|6565|Ohio, USA

Maj.Do wrote:

psssh my old Passive cooling experiment had better temps but was huge.
uh huh, let's compare apples to apples though, put that on my 3700+ sandy with 1.5V running through it running at 2.750ghz (from 2.2) then see how it holds up.


oh and as for leaks... I learned my lesson, I now have a 7800gtx keychain...
Cybargs
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but overall watercooling is pretty expensive to maintain though, and water is harder too cool down than air am i correct? tuniq tower 120 = best bang for the buck and best overall hsf
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Maj.Do
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+85|6721|good old CA
yea tuniq tower is the best, i had water cooling before with my old computer , it leaked on me and went down onto my X800 pro .  i had to rma it.  Right now im using a tuniq tower 120
Cybargs
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same here bro, my tuniq kept my p4 3.0ghz under 50 degrees at full load!
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