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OK mate. first of all I would like to give you the good old one fingered salute.  YOu put of a intellectual topic asking people to open thier minds and in the next breath you say anyone who doesn't agree with you opinion should die.  Hell you live in South Africa.  Don't throw stones about change when you live in a glass house. 

NOw to address this video you posted.  FIrst off, the guy presenting the "documentary" never identifies himself.  Ohh thats real good.  Next, The video is named "How the United States used chemical warfare indiscrimately in iraq".  Now in the video it mention sonly Napom and white phospherous.  Ohhh yeah thats so gd indicrimate.  Not like Iraq using mustard gas on thier own people..or like your own south africa  Link-http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/south_africa/index.html

This entire video is more anti-american mindless blog.  Its a view of those who would see the US stop interacting with the world so they can turn thier own counties into corrupt terrorist havens for thier own gain.  Face it mate, the US is the world police.  We have proven it.  At the same time, we don't do what we do just to help people (I really think that the WMD thing was just a cover to help liberate Iraq and do what Bushes Dad should of done a decade ago).

If your unable to open your mind and think outside your little box of a world then please...Write your thought on the walls of your box and keep them there. 

Now for all the picture of injured and dead people...I'm sure thats real.  In war there are casualties.  Both combatant and non-combatant.  It is a sad truth.  Some may be there by my own hand...who knows.  But that is something I have to deal with. 

So please man, get off the far side of whatever politcal group your associated with and think for yourself.

Ohh yeah I forgot one thing.  The video of the american chopper dropping White phosphorus on the city....well for one the chopper nor the town is identified anyway.  The WP looks much like chauff.  There is no time stamp or date on the video.  If you going to provide documentation that supports your view then maybe you should find a more realiable source.

Hell i'm just attacking his supposed source here.  If your going to mount an arguement have some gd concrete information..

hmmm i wonder if that was suppose to mean something

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I love how people start threads like this without noting Saddam's own use of torture and gas against his own country. Of course dictators like that should be left alone.

Still. No excuse to do it yourself.

Sorry about not watching, but I have to conserve dowload space.

Knochenmann_AUT wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I love how people start threads like this without noting Saddam's own use of torture and gas against his own country.

Oh yes, I remember. Was this bevor or after Saddam was a ally of the US? Hmm, I wounder where he got all his nice toys from?

he got his nice toys from the french and americans. dont just blame the US.

sfg-Ice__ wrote:

Ohh yeah I forgot one thing.  The video of the american chopper dropping White phosphorus on the city....well for one the chopper nor the town is identified anyway.  The WP looks much like chauff.  There is no time stamp or date on the video.  If you going to provide documentation that supports your view then maybe you should find a more realiable source.

yeah that chopper did drop things more like flares... it may just be a test on the desert in the US on the new flares that might of been produced...

Last edited by cyborg_ninja-117 (2006-04-04 01:42:18)

You post a blatantly biased and politically motivated clip, espouse a blatantly biased and politically motivated view, criticise others who hold such views, and then ask us to open ourselves to your view point?  Please, grow up.

I can give the essense of your film with three words:  Dubious at best.

By the way, there is a word for people who accuse others of being closed minded when their own minds are firmly made up: Hypocrite.  Your opening rant says it all.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I love how people start threads like this without noting Saddam's own use of torture and gas against his own country. Of course dictators like that should be left alone.

I heard that if the Iraq national football team lost a match or made a bad mistake saddam would cut your ears off.But if you played well and scored he was good at rewarding.Don't think i'd risk it though.

The problem with that video (of the "white phosphorous" dispersion) is that you can't tell the scale.  It is too dark.  All you see are the light bursts with nothing else to give you an indication as to the actual size.
EDIT:  If you filmed someone releasing chaff at fairly close range, it would probably look like that.

Last edited by atlvolunteer (2006-04-04 12:53:28)

MRLS - Mulit rocket launch system . Now IF you watched the video you can see that a helicopter was used to fire white phospherous . 4 times they fired . with 5 second intervals . MRLS cannot float in the air .

As far as determining the scale of the white glowing bolbs falling to the ground take a good look when they zoom all the way in on the city being hit . You can see roof tops and a telephone pole and some trees . I dunno but it looks like the blobs can be anywheres the size of basket balls to baseballs . Who the fark cares it dosen't matter . The results are deadly and kills eveyone it touches . Woman , babies and terrorists .

  If this is actual footage of WP being used in Iraq and our Gov lies to us about it , well that just pisses me off . I can really rely on anyones word it would be that of the young marine who WAS there . And judging by the look in his eye and what he said I don't think he is bullshitting us . Like our government is ......

Here is another article about this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4442988.stm

LOL Jonnykill noone here said we didn't.  The point is that the WP was used for illumination not for anti personel as was depicted.  Also, the video of the WP being released could be from any country, anywhere.  Like I said there was no time stamp nor date.   Kimosabe is just trying to express a poorly explained view while at the same time not accepting that he may be very wrong.