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Extra Medium wrote:

Jay wrote:

An AutoZone worker who stopped an armed robbery by retrieving a weapon from his truck said he was fired by the company for violating their gun policy.

Devin McClean and his store manager were about to close the AutoZone in York County, Va. when a gunman barged into the store.

“He pulled a gun from his waist band and demanded me and my manager go back into the office,” McClean told Fox News.

At some point, McClean was left in a restroom while the gunman made the manager open the store safe. That’s when McClean, a 23-year-old Air Force veteran, bolted through a side door and ran to his truck.

He returned through the front door holding a Glock 40 – pointed directly at the masked robber.

“I told him to freeze and to drop his weapon,” McClean told Fox News.

Instead, the robber took off – last seen running down the street from the store.

“I watched him run down the street,” he said. “I came back inside and made sure my manager was okay and he called the police.”

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/to … bbery.html

Apparently people are making a big deal about this. I actually agree with the corporate policy here. The odds of actually getting shot in an armed robbery are near zero unless you provoke the guy. He wants the money, not a murder charge. Risking peoples lives by escalating it over $2,000 is retarded. The company has insurance that will cover the loss of the money

Have you ever had a gun put in your face?  Obviously you haven't.  It isn't about what percentage of a chance you have of getting shot, it's more about another man having your life at his figure tips.  Do I want this piece of shit to make the decision alone whether I live or die, or do I want the chance to say NO, you do not have the right to make that decision, I have a say in this, I say I live and YOU die.

The entire gun law argument is mute.  Bad guys will have guns whether you have no laws or guns completely banned.  The only banning guns will do is take guns out of the hands of good people and give leverage to the bad.  Go hang out with Bob Costas hippy.

Jay wrote:

Here's where you reply with 'thanks for your service' like a good little conservative.

Jay wrote:

Extra Medium wrote:

Have you ever had a gun put in your face?  Obviously you haven't.  It isn't about what percentage of a chance you have of getting shot, it's more about another man having your life at his figure tips.  Do I want this piece of shit to make the decision alone whether I live or die, or do I want the chance to say NO, you do not have the right to make that decision, I have a say in this, I say I live and YOU die.

The entire gun law argument is mute.  Bad guys will have guns whether you have no laws or guns completely banned.  The only banning guns will do is take guns out of the hands of good people and give leverage to the bad.  Go hang out with Bob Costas hippy.

Yes.

Macbeth wrote:

Do all states require you to be finger printed in order to buy a gun? In NJ you have to. I don't like it.

An elderly man opened fire on a woman after her car came into contact with his motorized wheelchair at a central Georgia service station, authorities said Wednesday. She died shortly afterward at a hospital despite the efforts of a crowd of people to aid her.

Police said Linda Hunnicutt, 65, was driving onto the gas pump bay of the service station in Macon at about 1 p.m. Tuesday when her Buick Lucerne and the motorized wheelchair bumped. Hunnicutt stepped out of her vehicle, and the man in the motorized wheelchair pulled a handgun and fatally shot her, city police spokeswoman Jami Gaudet said.

"The whole encounter, I can tell you, was very brief," Gaudet said. "Everybody is just reeling from this."

The suspect, 73-year-old Frank Louis Reeves, was apprehended in the gas station parking lot. He made a brief court appearance Wednesday, and authorities said he was being held without bond on a murder charge at the Bibb County Jail. Gaudet did not know whether Reeves had an attorney, and jail records do not list one.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sectio … id=8571749

Man charged in Merrillville murder, robbery



March 7, 2012 (MERRILLVILLE, Ind.) (WLS) -- A 20-year-old man is charged in the murder of a store clerk during a robbery at the Lucky Foods in Merrillville, Ind.

Police say Jeremy Blue fatally shot Judi Simpson-Beaver, 48, on Sunday during a robbery. Surveillance video at the Lucky Mart Foods in Merrillville shows Beaver complying with the demands of the gunman by giving him two drawers of cash. He then shot her twice- once in the chest and again in the head.

"This was a heinous crime. She did everything, she complied. This was ruthless. There was no need for him to do this. She did everything he demanded," Merrillville Police Chief Jim Lilley said.

Blue wore a hockey mask and a hooded sweatshirt during the robbery, police said. A customer who was inside the store ran out when the suspect showed his gun. Police released surveillance video from the store and 9-1-1 calls for help.

Caller: "We need an ambulance at Lucky Foods at Cleveland and 57th. Someone just robbed the store and the woman inside is bleeding."

Caller: "She's been shot. He had a gun. I see a shell casing."

Dispatch: "Did he shoot her?"

Caller: "He did. Please hurry up, she's not going to make it."

"I can't even wrap my head around it. I mean he's a coward. To shoot an unarmed woman is beyond me and to take somebody who would never do anybody harm, it just doesn't make any sense. I don't get it," Zachary Beaver, victim's son, said.

Tips and witnesses led police to Blue. Officials now hope they'll lead to the arrest of the two other men believed to have been part of the crime: one man who came inside prior to the crime and another who stood at the door.

"We are still looking for the public's help for the other two individuals. We do have a couple persons of interest," Det. Joe Cooper, Merrillville Police Department, said.

"I know the Merrillville police are just overwhelmed with how many people are calling in and giving information and it's just touching to see that the community really cares and people are out there to help out," Zachary Beaver said.

Beaver had moved to Merrillville from Texas to help care for her grandson. Both of her sons served in the military; her youngest is on his way back from Afghanistan after learning of his mother's death.

Police are asking anyone with information to call the Merrillville Police Department at 219-769-3531.

(Copyright ©2012 WLS-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)

Macbeth wrote:

A black guy killed a white woman in a robbery? I wonder what Jessy Jackson or Al Sharpton think of this. Too bad we will never know because the media doesn't like making stories like this into national news. But a hoodlum getting shot on the street by a neighborhood watch makes international headlines.