2012 U.S. election presidential, Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama

2012-10-15 13:29:01

#476

lavadisk: I am a cat ¦ 3; +369|7115|Denver colorado

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
the stock market crashed because of AMERICA!

just because some dude on a train yelled at you in Osaka doesn't mean the world hates America. When I was riding the subway in Tokyo people were looking at me like I was from another planet.

I lived it. Lived the American there. I know that feeling. Some of my friends who really were inspired by me stopped pitying themselves and are becoming chefs because they met me. Now I'm so authentically Japanese in their eyes they want me to come back to Japan.

I have no reason to as America is a wonderful country. Land of opportunity. Truly.

God bless everyone on this planet.

2012-10-15 13:37:43

#477

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6782

lavadisk wrote:
God bless everyone on this planet.

is the medical marijuana thing going to be on the ballot in colorado?

2012-10-15 13:41:17

#478

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

13urnzz wrote:
lavadisk wrote:
God bless everyone on this planet.
is the medical marijuana thing going to be on the ballot in colorado?

Not medical, recreational. My guess is it won't impact him either way

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2012-10-15 18:44:24

#479

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6696|'Murka

13urnzz wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
What the fuck did I just read?
FEOS mistakenly telling me ryan won the vp debate

Pretty sure I didn't say that.

I wrote:
From a debate perspective, it was a draw.

Do we need to look up what "a draw" is?

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2012-10-15 19:11:41

#480

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6956|UK

draws are for weenies and proper football

we want a winaar.

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2012-10-15 19:26:29

#481

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7060|Noizyland

If it was in fact a draw between Ryan and Biden I think it would be the first time I've ever seen a debate declared a draw.

FEOS, gun to your head, if you had to say who won the debate who would you pick?

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2012-10-15 19:27:53

#482

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5871

Biden came off as a tool. Should have giggled and smiled less.

2012-10-15 19:34:20

#483

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7060|Noizyland

And Ryan came across as timid and ineffective.

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2012-10-15 19:37:27

#484

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5871

It's not like you were ever giving Ryan a chance anyway.

I'm not saying you are biased.

But you are biased.

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2012-10-15 19:38:42

#485

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7060|Noizyland

Biased*

No I probably didn't give Ryan much of a chance, he's never really impressed me. He lived up to my expectations.

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2012-10-15 20:00:31

#486

Frank Reynolds: Member; +65|4614

Ty wrote:
Biased*

No I probably didn't give Ryan much of a chance, he's never really impressed me. He lived up to my expectations.

dont be such a tool you would not give any repub a chance.

What are you looking at dicknose

2012-10-15 20:12:54

#487

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6782

m3thod wrote:
draws are for weenies and proper football

we want a winaar.

2012-10-15 20:13:51

#488

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5464|Sydney

Frank Reynolds wrote:
Ty wrote:
Biased*

No I probably didn't give Ryan much of a chance, he's never really impressed me. He lived up to my expectations.
dont be such a tool you would not give any repub a chance.

Neither will the electorate.

Bam!

2012-10-15 20:56:57

#489

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6782

Senate hopeful Thompson's son says send Obama back to Kenya

This is why the GOP can round up the votes of people who will vote against their own interest. the rednecks eat this shit up, and there is no respect for the office of President of the United States of America. The "most powerful man in the world" can't get a jobs bill passed in congress, and even though democrats have 53 of the hundred seats in the senate, the republicants filibuster any measure that might be perceived as helping the president.

2012-10-15 21:41:20

#490

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6696|'Murka

13urnzz wrote:
Senate hopeful Thompson's son says send Obama back to Kenya

This is why the GOP can round up the votes of people who will vote against their own interest. the rednecks eat this shit up, and there is no respect for the office of President of the United States of America. The "most powerful man in the world" can't get a jobs bill passed in congress, and even though democrats have 53 of the hundred seats in the senate, the republicants filibuster any measure that might be perceived as helping the president.

And this is unique how, exactly? This is the first time the opposition party has *gasp* opposed the White House? Do you seriously think that?

To this:

Ty wrote:
FEOS, gun to your head, if you had to say who won the debate who would you pick?

I would still say it was a draw. I didn't see a clear winner, either way. Both made points, both flubbed. I thought Biden acted like a douche, but that had nothing to do with his positions on issues or how he explained them. I thought Ryan came off as wound a little tight, but again, had nothing to do with his positions or how he explained them.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2012-10-15 21:45:30

#491

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6438|what

How did he explain them?

2012-10-15 21:48:22

#492

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6696|'Murka

Who? Ryan or Biden?

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2012-10-15 21:52:24

#493

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6438|what

Ryan.

There was no substance at all. Eg, what loopholes the GOP hope to close with their tax plan.

2012-10-16 00:21:30

#494

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

FEOS wrote:
Ty wrote:
FEOS, gun to your head, if you had to say who won the debate who would you pick?
I would still say it was a draw. I didn't see a clear winner, either way. Both made points, both flubbed. I thought Biden acted like a douche, but that had nothing to do with his positions on issues or how he explained them. I thought Ryan came off as wound a little tight, but again, had nothing to do with his positions or how he explained them.

Boom headshot.

No really, answer the question.

Fuck Israel

2012-10-16 00:25:22

#495

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7060|Noizyland

Frank Reynolds wrote:
Ty wrote:
Biased*

No I probably didn't give Ryan much of a chance, he's never really impressed me. He lived up to my expectations.
dont be such a tool you would not give any repub a chance.

I quite liked John McCain, my only fear was that he'd die in office. There was a younger bloke I thought was good too but I can't think of his name.

I remember when you liked me.

FEOS wrote:
Ty wrote:
FEOS, gun to your head, if you had to say who won the debate who would you pick?
I would still say it was a draw. I didn't see a clear winner, either way. Both made points, both flubbed. I thought Biden acted like a douche, but that had nothing to do with his positions on issues or how he explained them. I thought Ryan came off as wound a little tight, but again, had nothing to do with his positions or how he explained them.

Oh come on FEOS I'm sure you can pick a winner, stop trying to be so diplomatic. So Biden was abusive and smug while Ryan was stiff and repressed but who do you think either made the most sense in their arguments or managed to sway more undecided voters?

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2012-10-16 06:01:22

#496

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6782

Ty wrote:
Oh come on FEOS I'm sure you can pick a winner, stop trying to be so diplomatic.

i'm not sure diplomatic is the word.

FEOS wrote:
This is the first time the opposition party has *gasp* opposed the White House?

you see Ty, either FEOS is being obtuse (which i doubt) or he's deliberately not being honest, and here is how you can tell-

I may be older than FEOS, but not by much, and can tell you that every other president in memory has been able to govern with the opposite party.

The government shut downs during Clintons years? even he and newt gingrich reached a compromise and a balanced budget. Nixon and tip o'neill couldn't be more different, but were able to pass legislation. George W. Bush? was able to get democratic support for his adventure into Iraq.

so either FEOS is confusing obstructionism with opposition, or he is willingly being stolid about the hyper partisanship that exists today.

2012-10-16 06:20:35

#497

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6438|what

The obstructionism was the reason the US credit rating was downgraded.

I don't know how anyone could think it doesn't exist or has been that way before.

2012-10-16 06:30:25

#498

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

AussieReaper wrote:
The obstructionism was the reason the US credit rating was downgraded.

I don't know how anyone could think it doesn't exist or has been that way before.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2012-10-16 09:34:01

#499

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6696|'Murka

13urnzz wrote:
Ty wrote:
Oh come on FEOS I'm sure you can pick a winner, stop trying to be so diplomatic.
i'm not sure diplomatic is the word.

FEOS wrote:
This is the first time the opposition party has *gasp* opposed the White House?
you see Ty, either FEOS is being obtuse (which i doubt) or he's deliberately not being honest, and here is how you can tell-

I may be older than FEOS, but not by much, and can tell you that every other president in memory has been able to govern with the opposite party.

The government shut downs during Clintons years? even he and newt gingrich reached a compromise and a balanced budget. Nixon and tip o'neill couldn't be more different, but were able to pass legislation. George W. Bush? was able to get democratic support for his adventure into Iraq.

so either FEOS is confusing obstructionism with opposition, or he is willingly being stolid about the hyper partisanship that exists today.

Nice to know your memory only really starts in 08. Or--more accurately--decides to skip 2001-2008, particularly 2004-2008. Nope. No hyper-partisan, fight the President at all costs bullshit then. None at all.

Foreign policy is normally supported in a bipartisan manner. Yes, there is posturing and teeth-knashing (remember that the Iraq thing was not all hunky-dory, but passed), but Congress generally supports the POTUS during his handling of international crises, for fear of appearing unpatriotic or unsupportive of the troops--both of which are bullshit.

So...even though I've said both candidates (that would be from both parties...we'll get back to that in a minute) made their points clearly and didn't either hurt or help the top of their respective tickets...I'm being partisan? Do you even know what partisan means? It would appear not.

If I was being partisan (this is where we get back to the party thing from above, btw), I would've blindly said one or the other mopped the floor with the other guy. But that's not what happened. I may agree with the policies of one over the other, but that doesn't mean I have to give them more credit than they earned during their debate performance. How frightfully partisan of me! I think both parties' candidates did equally well! Dear God! I'm a raving right-wing gun nut who won't give Democrats credit for anything! Except performing as well as the other guy in a debate, of course.

Because I gave Biden equal praise to Ryan. Yep. Ridiculously partisan.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2012-10-16 09:36:57

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BF2S Forums 2012 U.S. election presidential, Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama

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