Jay
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TAMPA - No doubt you've heard the adage: a picture is worth a thousand words. A picture of 62-year-old Nick Christie could be worth thousands of dollars when a jury sees it.

The photo shows the Ohio man restrained inside the Lee County Jail with his body covered in pepper spray.

"This photo is a picture of a man who is strapped to a chair naked inside a jail for hours with a hood over his face. That evokes thoughts of being tortured," says Cleveland-based lawyer Nick DiCello who represents the Christie family.

The photo, which was obtained by FOX 13's investigative unit, was taken in the final hours of Christie's life.

The District 21 Medical Examiner ruled his death was a homicide because he had been restrained and sprayed with pepper sprayed by law enforcement officers. But to this day, nobody has ever been charged with a crime, and the Lee County State Attorney cleared the sheriff's office of any wrong doing.

...

She called authorities and pleaded with them to take her husband to a hospital and be given his medications. Instead, he was taken to jail for disorderly intoxication.

Her lawsuit alleges he was pepper sprayed 10 times over a 48-hour period, at times while in a restraint chair.
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/i … r-12142011

I have no words.

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That probably felt like burning alive. Which is what I would suggest happen to those responsible for this.
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pirana6
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the Lee County State Attorney cleared the sheriff's office of any wrong doing.
oh sure i can see that. wait. nope. no i cannot.

wtf florida?
Macbeth
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Why was he arrested? I am sure there is more to this and would like to hear the officers side. They don't put spit mask on and pepper spray people for kicks after all.



The District 21 Medical Examiner ruled his death was a homicide because he had been restrained and sprayed with pepper sprayed by law enforcement officers. But to this day, nobody has ever been charged with a crime, and the Lee County State Attorney cleared the sheriff's office of any wrong doing.
Could have been a suicide. Homicide on a death certificate just means death by another human. Suicides are ruled homicides.
Jay
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He was tied up naked in a jail cell for 48 hours and sprayed with pepper spray at least 10 times.

https://media2.myfoxtampabay.com//photo/2011/12/14/pepper1_20111214233504_320_240.JPG

His wife called the police and asked them to bring him to the hospital because he was depressed and refused to take his meds. They instead arrested him and took him to jail, where he died.
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What The Fucking Fuck?
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welcome to florida.
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Macbeth wrote:

Why was he arrested? I am sure there is more to this and would like to hear the officers side. They don't put spit mask on and pepper spray people for kicks after all.



The District 21 Medical Examiner ruled his death was a homicide because he had been restrained and sprayed with pepper sprayed by law enforcement officers. But to this day, nobody has ever been charged with a crime, and the Lee County State Attorney cleared the sheriff's office of any wrong doing.
Could have been a suicide. Homicide on a death certificate just means death by another human. Suicides are ruled homicides.
If you had someone who was so out of it and combative that you needed a mask and restraints after many, many hours, wouldn't you need some sort of psychiatric evaluation prior to, um, trying to pepper spray the crazy away? (I think antipsychotics and sedatives just might do the trick...)

There is no reason for him to be naked with pepper spray all over his body. Even podunk cop shops typically have at least 1 padded cell that someone who is combative/obnoxious can be thrown into, and pepper spray is intended to be a tool for disorienting and incapacitating - someone tied to a chair, for these purposes, is incapacitated and thus doesn't need any pepper spraying, let alone repeated spraying. 

You don't need to be experienced in law enforcement to realize that restraining a naked man to a chair and repeatedly pepper spraying him over any period of time is not how things are done, and that there are so many failures here from a protocol standpoint that it's mindblowing.

This is essentially the definition torture, and by no means constitutes any sort of proper treatment in any circumstance.

Nazi war criminals met better ends.
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I dont get it
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Mutantbear wrote:

I dont get it
Yeah my mind is full of fuck right now. Not the typical rosy fatman Christmas imagery I'm used to.
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-CARNIFEX-[LOC] wrote:

Mutantbear wrote:

I dont get it
Yeah my mind is full of fuck right now. Not the typical rosy fatman Christmas imagery I'm used to.
POW tortures make sense despite being horrible

I really dont get this story
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Mutantbear wrote:

-CARNIFEX-[LOC] wrote:

Mutantbear wrote:

I dont get it
Yeah my mind is full of fuck right now. Not the typical rosy fatman Christmas imagery I'm used to.
POW tortures make sense despite being horrible

I really dont get this story
maybe those responsible were simply sadists?
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That's insane...
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-CARNIFEX-[LOC] wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Why was he arrested? I am sure there is more to this and would like to hear the officers side. They don't put spit mask on and pepper spray people for kicks after all.



The District 21 Medical Examiner ruled his death was a homicide because he had been restrained and sprayed with pepper sprayed by law enforcement officers. But to this day, nobody has ever been charged with a crime, and the Lee County State Attorney cleared the sheriff's office of any wrong doing.
Could have been a suicide. Homicide on a death certificate just means death by another human. Suicides are ruled homicides.
If you had someone who was so out of it and combative that you needed a mask and restraints after many, many hours, wouldn't you need some sort of psychiatric evaluation prior to, um, trying to pepper spray the crazy away? (I think antipsychotics and sedatives just might do the trick...)

There is no reason for him to be naked with pepper spray all over his body. Even podunk cop shops typically have at least 1 padded cell that someone who is combative/obnoxious can be thrown into, and pepper spray is intended to be a tool for disorienting and incapacitating - someone tied to a chair, for these purposes, is incapacitated and thus doesn't need any pepper spraying, let alone repeated spraying. 

You don't need to be experienced in law enforcement to realize that restraining a naked man to a chair and repeatedly pepper spraying him over any period of time is not how things are done, and that there are so many failures here from a protocol standpoint that it's mindblowing.

This is essentially the definition torture, and by no means constitutes any sort of proper treatment in any circumstance.

Nazi war criminals met better ends.
I am just saying there is more to the story. You don't get spit masked for nothing. Sedatives still have to be administered and if the guy is rampaging...antipsychotics don't start working ASAP either.
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Jay wrote:

I have no words.
How about:

What The Fucking Fuck?
Jay
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Jay wrote:

I have no words.
How about:

What The Fucking Fuck?
Those are good words.
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Macbeth
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Title needs an 'allegedly' in the title. I will also take a 'maybe' or 'possibly'.
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You tell Jay that. It was his substitute.
Mutantbear
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it doesnt need an allegedly

Im pretty sure someone got tortured here
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Mutantbear wrote:

it doesnt need an allegedly

Im pretty sure someone got tortured here
It doesn't look like not torture.
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pirana6 wrote:

wtf florida Lee County?
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Beyond this guy dying...

To think the procedures in place there are such that they would cover those cops adequately so that THAT wouldn't result in SOME sort of wrongdoing being found in the investigation...

Fucking mind-boggling.
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