naw its kinda funny how uni students are supposed to be open minded and what not but in reality they shut down anything they disagree with.Dilbert_X wrote:
That's the democratic process in action - as long as its done democratically its OK.
If Condi won't attend because a few people might tell her she's wrong then too bad.
Anything their professors disagree with. College students for the most part lack any real world life experience ability to think for themselves. They have entered an environment that they have been told is the pinnacle of education their entire lives and they thus take in whatever they are taught as if it were the final word. The fact that the majority of college graduates never pick up a book after college (seriously) further entrenched the professors' influence.Cybargs wrote:
naw its kinda funny how uni students are supposed to be open minded and what not but in reality they shut down anything they disagree with.Dilbert_X wrote:
That's the democratic process in action - as long as its done democratically its OK.
If Condi won't attend because a few people might tell her she's wrong then too bad.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
You say that like students are hanging on their prof's every word. Very few people actually have the sort of mentor relationship with professors you see in movies and such. You're just parroting the old stereotype about those librul eleet universe-cities.Jay wrote:
Anything their professors disagree with. College students for the most part lack any real world life experience ability to think for themselves. They have entered an environment that they have been told is the pinnacle of education their entire lives and they thus take in whatever they are taught as if it were the final word. The fact that the majority of college graduates never pick up a book after college (seriously) further entrenched the professors' influence.Cybargs wrote:
naw its kinda funny how uni students are supposed to be open minded and what not but in reality they shut down anything they disagree with.Dilbert_X wrote:
That's the democratic process in action - as long as its done democratically its OK.
If Condi won't attend because a few people might tell her she's wrong then too bad.
Anything their commanding officers disagree with. Grunts for the most part lack any real world life experience ability to think for themselves. They have entered an environment that they have been told is the pinnacle of manhood their entire lives and they thus take in whatever they are taught as if it were the final word. The fact that the majority of military veterans never pick up a book during their service (seriously) further entrenched the commander's influence.
yeah pretty much. most uni students dont parrot on their professors. its just the classes they pick tend to agree with their perception of the world. eg development studies with a lot of white college kids who never lived a day in their life overseas (trip to bali doesnt count) telling all the brown people whats best for them and all corporations are evil.DesertFox- wrote:
You say that like students are hanging on their prof's every word. Very few people actually have the sort of mentor relationship with professors you see in movies and such. You're just parroting the old stereotype about those librul eleet universe-cities.Jay wrote:
Anything their professors disagree with. College students for the most part lack any real world life experience ability to think for themselves. They have entered an environment that they have been told is the pinnacle of education their entire lives and they thus take in whatever they are taught as if it were the final word. The fact that the majority of college graduates never pick up a book after college (seriously) further entrenched the professors' influence.Cybargs wrote:
naw its kinda funny how uni students are supposed to be open minded and what not but in reality they shut down anything they disagree with.
What are you looking to do with your bike? Trips or just going around town? Or racing friends?
Do you need speed? Gas mileage? Storage?
I know people that start on 250's and have no issues, and I know people that start on 750's and have no issues, so I dunno if that should be your initial starting point when looking.
Do you need speed? Gas mileage? Storage?
I know people that start on 250's and have no issues, and I know people that start on 750's and have no issues, so I dunno if that should be your initial starting point when looking.
Can't be on anything above a 660CC or 150kw/tonne bike due to aussie rules for new riders.pirana6 wrote:
What are you looking to do with your bike? Trips or just going around town? Or racing friends?
Do you need speed? Gas mileage? Storage?
I know people that start on 250's and have no issues, and I know people that start on 750's and have no issues, so I dunno if that should be your initial starting point when looking.
mostly for just trips and going around town no racing.
So any old commuter bike w/ good gas mileage should do.
Something new? Like a sport bike? Something older like a cafe racer?
You did say sport so I'll lean towards those...
Dual sports sit up higher, are more comfortable, etc.
Full-sports sit more super-man style, are more aggressive, etc.
Something new? Like a sport bike? Something older like a cafe racer?
You did say sport so I'll lean towards those...
Dual sports sit up higher, are more comfortable, etc.
Full-sports sit more super-man style, are more aggressive, etc.
Yeah kinda but you can take them to way more places. If you know you'll never leave the wide, perfect lanes of your current concrete jungle, then yes just get a sport bike.
While they're sorta 50% off-road and 50% sport-bike, I've been looking at the 25% off-road - 75% sport-bike style like the FZ6R and the Ninja 600r
While they're sorta 50% off-road and 50% sport-bike, I've been looking at the 25% off-road - 75% sport-bike style like the FZ6R and the Ninja 600r
I've only ever had a Suzuki. THAT wasn't tough to learn on, but I've only had the one. I think in the 500-600 range you won't see a huge variance in learning curve across makes.
unreliable and very high maintenance.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Honda Cbr600 is the ultimate beginner bike. You won't necessarily grow out of it quickly and it's the easiest to learn on.Cybargs wrote:
yeah ive been looking at something like a cbr500 or a fz6r. any main difference between honda yamaha and kawasaki? ive heard yamahas are easier to learn with.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
cheers jay, but aussie gov says no for beginners we have licensing schemes that won't allow me on a bike more than 660cc or 150kw per tonne for at least 15 months after i get my learners.Jay wrote:
Honda Cbr600 is the ultimate beginner bike. You won't necessarily grow out of it quickly and it's the easiest to learn on.Cybargs wrote:
yeah ive been looking at something like a cbr500 or a fz6r. any main difference between honda yamaha and kawasaki? ive heard yamahas are easier to learn with.
I liked my ninja 250r
I thought Asians were supposed to ride scootersCybargs wrote:
cheers jay, but aussie gov says no for beginners we have licensing schemes that won't allow me on a bike more than 660cc or 150kw per tonne for at least 15 months after i get my learners.Jay wrote:
Honda Cbr600 is the ultimate beginner bike. You won't necessarily grow out of it quickly and it's the easiest to learn on.Cybargs wrote:
yeah ive been looking at something like a cbr500 or a fz6r. any main difference between honda yamaha and kawasaki? ive heard yamahas are easier to learn with.
Fuck Israel
Cbr600 is 600 ccCybargs wrote:
cheers jay, but aussie gov says no for beginners we have licensing schemes that won't allow me on a bike more than 660cc or 150kw per tonne for at least 15 months after i get my learners.Jay wrote:
Honda Cbr600 is the ultimate beginner bike. You won't necessarily grow out of it quickly and it's the easiest to learn on.Cybargs wrote:
yeah ive been looking at something like a cbr500 or a fz6r. any main difference between honda yamaha and kawasaki? ive heard yamahas are easier to learn with.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
But it will exceed your puny horsepower limits. What a shitty backwards country you live in.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
yeah that's why.Jay wrote:
But it will exceed your puny horsepower limits. What a shitty backwards country you live in.
we have provisional and learner licenses that have restrictions. once youre on a full license youre golden.
for cars you have to get a permit with anything that is a non-diesel turbo if you're on a provisional license.
My son's viewing is tonight from 5-9pm, his funeral is tomorrow. I am tired from lack of sleep and really not motivated to go to either.. FWP