Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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CC-Marley wrote:

With the new Affordable Care Act it's cheaper to drop all coverage and pay the fines than to continue to provide coverage which they pay a portion of.
Except presumably you still don't get healthcare?
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RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,736|6753|Oxferd Ohire
if he doesnt he gets a fine
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DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
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I know they have fines for businesses of >50 employees that don't provide healthcare, they have to pay $2,000 per employee.
Brasso
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my chair doesn't recline enough
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BVC
Member
+325|6712
My last brush with the public health system (reattach a nerve after a knife accident) had a total cost of $3, for an optional codeine prescription.  Healthcare is expensive
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5374|London, England

DesertFox- wrote:

I know they have fines for businesses of >50 employees that don't provide healthcare, they have to pay $2,000 per employee.
They fine individuals without health coverage too.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,736|6753|Oxferd Ohire
im not against universal healthcare. jay is though? but the way theyre going about it is retarded
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RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
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The fee in 2014 is 1% of your yearly income or $95 per person for the year, whichever is higher. The fee increases every year. In 2016 it is 2.5% of income or $695 per person, whichever is higher.



retarded
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Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,053|6639|Little Bentcock
Just give everyone healthcare like the rest of the developed world.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+794|6701|United States of America
But Adams, FREEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,053|6639|Little Bentcock
Everyone having access to healthcare is FREEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,810|6122|eXtreme to the maX
What about the freedom to not have healthcare?
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Cybargs
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obama made it illegal because he hates freedom and is a communist muslim
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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I'll write in short sentences so the foreigners can understand.

Americans do not like their government. Americans do not respect their civil servants because they are seen as lazy and incompetent. Americans therefor do not want their doctors to be civil servants on the government payroll. You keep talking about the money we'll save, but your taxes are double what ours are. I will happily trade higher health care costs to keep the tens of thousands of dollars in taxes I do not have to pay to live in your system. You're a bunch of wankers. The only foreigners I ever see bragging about their system are the young and the poor because they get a free ride (until they start working real jobs and discover how much paying taxes sucks). Excluding sales tax, my wife and I paid 23% in income taxes last year. That's already an unreasonably high rate. Fuck you for suggesting that I should be forced to pay more just so I can be as miserable as your own middle class workers.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6733|Riva, MD
Geez, you're lucky you're only paying that much.  Taxes rape a third of my paycheck and the state has nothing to show for it except a police officer on every street.  The roads are pothole-ridden shit, the public transportation is shit, and the schools are all falling apart.  If any state can do everything wrong, it's Maryland
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
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I don't get taxed very much though. And its certainly not 46% which is double what you paid last year.

Last edited by Adams_BJ (2013-10-02 21:33:49)

pirana6
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I keep trying to find the name of a movie I watched a long time ago, a teen, coming-of-age, adventure movie. And google keeps giving me porn movies.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
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What is the plot?
pirana6
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it was made in the early 90's (or late 80s?). it starts out with a boy maybe 15, going to africa and being forced to live with a girl about his age. he's the city slicker and she knows what shes doing out in the bush.
i remember in the beginning a scene where he was walking with a walkman on and he almost strolled through a minefield and she had to stop him. and near the end one of them got stung by a scorpion.
i think the general plot was like one of their mom or dad had died they had to go on an adventure through africa to get away from the terrorists who killed them.
Cybargs
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Jay wrote:

I'll write in short sentences so the foreigners can understand.

Americans do not like their government. Americans do not respect their civil servants because they are seen as lazy and incompetent. Americans therefor do not want their doctors to be civil servants on the government payroll. You keep talking about the money we'll save, but your taxes are double what ours are. I will happily trade higher health care costs to keep the tens of thousands of dollars in taxes I do not have to pay to live in your system. You're a bunch of wankers. The only foreigners I ever see bragging about their system are the young and the poor because they get a free ride (until they start working real jobs and discover how much paying taxes sucks). Excluding sales tax, my wife and I paid 23% in income taxes last year. That's already an unreasonably high rate. Fuck you for suggesting that I should be forced to pay more just so I can be as miserable as your own middle class workers.
You guys still spend over double per GDP on what we do on health care. In fact, MORE of your taxes goes into health care per capita than ours.



If I were you jay, i'd just fly overseas for any major operations. That shits much cheaper even when you're paying out of pocket.
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pirana6
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pirana6 wrote:

it was made in the early 90's (or late 80s?). it starts out with a boy maybe 15, going to africa and being forced to live with a girl about his age. he's the city slicker and she knows what shes doing out in the bush.
i remember in the beginning a scene where he was walking with a walkman on and he almost strolled through a minefield and she had to stop him. and near the end one of them got stung by a scorpion.
i think the general plot was like one of their mom or dad had died they had to go on an adventure through africa to get away from the terrorists who killed them.
got it: A Far Off Place
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,053|6639|Little Bentcock
The gods must be Crazy.
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+685|6307|Washington St.
naw nigga i already own that shit. like da first movie i bought ya feel me?
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Jay wrote:

I'll write in short sentences so the foreigners can understand.

Americans do not like their government. Americans do not respect their civil servants because they are seen as lazy and incompetent. Americans therefor do not want their doctors to be civil servants on the government payroll. You keep talking about the money we'll save, but your taxes are double what ours are. I will happily trade higher health care costs to keep the tens of thousands of dollars in taxes I do not have to pay to live in your system. You're a bunch of wankers. The only foreigners I ever see bragging about their system are the young and the poor because they get a free ride (until they start working real jobs and discover how much paying taxes sucks). Excluding sales tax, my wife and I paid 23% in income taxes last year. That's already an unreasonably high rate. Fuck you for suggesting that I should be forced to pay more just so I can be as miserable as your own middle class workers.
Its not our fault your civil servants are lazy and incompetent, or how having free healthcare makes anyone outside 'merica "a bunch of wankers". Its your problem and you should figure out how to deal with it, not bitch at anyone who points it out.

Again, you were very comfortable taking government handouts and being a lazy and incompetent civil servant when it suited you, why so angry about having to pay tax now?

Also our taxes aren't double yours, and we get much more return for our money, since we aren't paying for a lazy-ass military to buy hypersonic supercopters they then use to explode random hill-farmers.
Plus we get that warm inner glow you so hate, knowing that our less fortunate citizens aren't in poverty or sick for want of a few dollars.
Why do you 'mericans hate each other so much you gloat about how much tax you don't pay and how poor and ill your fellow citizens are?

Cybargs wrote:

You guys still spend over double per GDP on what we do on health care. In fact, MORE of your taxes goes into health care per capita than ours.
^ This

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2013-10-03 02:44:41)

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globefish23
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+334|6340|Graz, Austria

Dilbert_X wrote:

Its not our fault your civil servants are lazy and incompetent, or how having free healthcare makes anyone outside 'merica "a bunch of wankers". Its your problem and you should figure out how to deal with it, not bitch at anyone who points it out.
Sounds like the classic "if I can't have what you have, then it's probably crap anyway and I don't really need it" kindergarten scheme.

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