Im with you m8.JaM3z wrote:
hahaha so trueThomasMorgan wrote:
hey trig, pull your pants down, i think youve got some people here trying to kiss your ass.
and yeah AA IS NOT THAT BAD i manged in a wake 24/7 not to be shotdown well once but you AVOID IT these n00b pilots need to learn some skillz and use a keyboard and mouse instead of that joystick crap, BF2 is not a flight sim and with new AA it wont be
New pilots like myself (ive piloted for 5h now 30 as laser man) are getting owned. Completely. And i need that expert to go up to the next rank.GearBox^XL wrote:
I like the patch. Got on a few servers last night and had a good time, not that I didn't before. As for the AA, I still got my share of deaths from some skilled pilots who are already changing thier tactics to avoid the new targeting systems but at least I can get a couple of shots off from the ground that can at least give them a little irratation. As far as the less talented flyboys that are bitching about how hard it is to rape us ground forces without getting a stinger up the tailpipe.. too bad, learn to fly better or die trying. I just wish I got more practice piloting in before the patch cause now I am afraid I'll never cure my fear of heights.
Agreed. Nothing evolves with the mentality "Deal with it or leave." The best playtester will always be the mass consumer, and though it's true there's no pleasing some people, without a lot of those people, chances are BF2 would still currently be similiar to v1.00 (Minus the memory leak). Everyone has the right to voice their opinion and to remove complaining as a viable method, you only leave praising, and nothing improves with comments like "this game is TEH ROXZORS "MB.nZ wrote:
You think the game gets better when nobody complains anymore? This is truly poor logic.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
How so?slidero wrote:
You have poor logic.
Hmmmmmmm..........you say you are sick of seeing people complain? Well you firend are complaining. I know you already said it but you are just making it worse. So maybe you should take your own advice and if you don't like it quit.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
This may not come as a surprise to many people, but all of you who are complaining about bugs and overpowered AA and the like are mostly the same people who complained about things before 1.2. Well guess what? You complained and DICE listened. All you people that are complaining, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED. I am so sick of seeing people complain. YOU ASKED FOR IT AND YOU GOT IT.
Before the patch:
"FIX THE FUCKING AA!!!"
After the patch:
"FIX THE FUCKING AA!!!"
Before the patch:
"FIX THE DAMN BUNNYHOPPING!!!"
After the patch:
"WTF NOW I CAN'T THROW MEDIC PACKS AND AMMO PACKS FAR BECAUSE I CAN'T JUMP THROW!!! FIX IT!"
Make up your fucking minds!
You people have two options as far as I am concerned:
1. Enjoy the game as it is.
2. Quit playing, you won't be missed.
Rebuttal?
P.S. If I see any posts in this thread about EA being money-grubbing assholes or something similar I'm going to delete your post. So sick and tired of seeing that shit.
P.P.S. Yes, I'm complaining about the complainers, get over it.
I'm sorry but where did I say that? What I said was enjoy the game or quit. If you can't enjoy it then you shouldn't be playing it as that is its intention. I know people will always complain. My point here is that first people complained that the AA was too weak... now it's too powerful? People complained that EA did nothing to fix their games. They did exactly what people asked. Now even more people are complaining.MB.nZ wrote:
You think the game gets better when nobody complains anymore? This is truly poor logic.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
How so?slidero wrote:
You have poor logic.
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I'm talking about the people who always complain in general, they don't have to be the same people, but for the most part they are.Poofy wrote:
But in the instance of AA, those were 2 different people complaining. Infantry were the first to cry foul with it's inefficient capabilities, then after the patch, the majority of the complaints stemmed from the pilots themselves. The 2 crowds aren't even remotely alike yet you're grouping them together making them all out to be flip-floppers when that is not the case.
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Sorry, I just don't like broad comments that sweep everyone into the same group.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
I'm talking about the people who always complain in general, they don't have to be the same people, but for the most part they are.Poofy wrote:
But in the instance of AA, those were 2 different people complaining. Infantry were the first to cry foul with it's inefficient capabilities, then after the patch, the majority of the complaints stemmed from the pilots themselves. The 2 crowds aren't even remotely alike yet you're grouping them together making them all out to be flip-floppers when that is not the case.
And you're missing my point. Either play the game as it is... or quit. That's mostly what I'm trying to say.
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The thing is people don't see them as minor gripes, they make a huge deal out of it. I'm sure you've seen some of the threads where people have said "goodbye" because of bugs and such. People view things are huge flaws yet continue to play.Poofy wrote:
Sorry, I just don't like broad comments that sweep everyone into the same group.
And to your last comment... I think it depends on how much unrest one has over the game's contents. If they hate almost everything about it, then yes, they should quit while they're ahead and play something else. However, if they do enjoy the game for the most part but do look down on some issues, I wouldn't say it's wrong to keep playing the game while bringing their few minor gripes to light since, as long as they don't let their own discontent consume them.
qftRutnab wrote:
quote a post of someone complaining and then a post of them complaining post-1.2, you won't find many that actually line up. Mostly because EA's interpretation of our feelings was completely wrong/misguided, I don't agree with many of the new changes.
Well yeah, that ties in with what I said about letting their dislike for said feature consuming them, and I do agree with you that it's childishly absurd to go "EA SUXKS, FUK DIS SHIT" simply because a few tweaks were made. I myself am a little bothered by the PKM changes, but I don't let it ruin my entire view of the game. I just hope for minor change, thus why I complain. But that's just me though so I can't defend everyone.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
The thing is people don't see them as minor gripes, they make a huge deal out of it. I'm sure you've seen some of the threads where people have said "goodbye" because of bugs and such. People view things are huge flaws yet continue to play.
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You have to admit, there are valid gripes in the game still. Perhaps not the ones that are filling a lot of the threads these days but there are still bugs. Even though I'm mostly happy with this patch, I do notice some issues still. I think that bringing these issues up is a valid thing to do.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
The thing is people don't see them as minor gripes, they make a huge deal out of it. I'm sure you've seen some of the threads where people have said "goodbye" because of bugs and such. People view things are huge flaws yet continue to play.Poofy wrote:
Sorry, I just don't like broad comments that sweep everyone into the same group.
And to your last comment... I think it depends on how much unrest one has over the game's contents. If they hate almost everything about it, then yes, they should quit while they're ahead and play something else. However, if they do enjoy the game for the most part but do look down on some issues, I wouldn't say it's wrong to keep playing the game while bringing their few minor gripes to light since, as long as they don't let their own discontent consume them.
Bugs will always be present in any and every game. It's a known fact that you can't please everyone. Thus people will complain.niomosy wrote:
You have to admit, there are valid gripes in the game still. Perhaps not the ones that are filling a lot of the threads these days but there are still bugs. Even though I'm mostly happy with this patch, I do notice some issues still. I think that bringing these issues up is a valid thing to do.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
The thing is people don't see them as minor gripes, they make a huge deal out of it. I'm sure you've seen some of the threads where people have said "goodbye" because of bugs and such. People view things are huge flaws yet continue to play.Poofy wrote:
Sorry, I just don't like broad comments that sweep everyone into the same group.
And to your last comment... I think it depends on how much unrest one has over the game's contents. If they hate almost everything about it, then yes, they should quit while they're ahead and play something else. However, if they do enjoy the game for the most part but do look down on some issues, I wouldn't say it's wrong to keep playing the game while bringing their few minor gripes to light since, as long as they don't let their own discontent consume them.
Where I think you're coming in is when they just get blown out of proportion because many people seem to want to be drama queens about it. I don't deny that that's the case but we're always going to get that, aren't we?
Still, I'll go along playing the game as long as I find it enjoyable. I may chime in on bugs or gameplay issues now and then in the hopes of adding some constructive criticism. After all, they can't fix things if they don't know they're broken.
This is true. There's still some validity in bringing up those problems, I think.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
Bugs will always be present in any and every game. It's a known fact that you can't please everyone. Thus people will complain.niomosy wrote:
You have to admit, there are valid gripes in the game still. Perhaps not the ones that are filling a lot of the threads these days but there are still bugs. Even though I'm mostly happy with this patch, I do notice some issues still. I think that bringing these issues up is a valid thing to do.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
The thing is people don't see them as minor gripes, they make a huge deal out of it. I'm sure you've seen some of the threads where people have said "goodbye" because of bugs and such. People view things are huge flaws yet continue to play.
Where I think you're coming in is when they just get blown out of proportion because many people seem to want to be drama queens about it. I don't deny that that's the case but we're always going to get that, aren't we?
Still, I'll go along playing the game as long as I find it enjoyable. I may chime in on bugs or gameplay issues now and then in the hopes of adding some constructive criticism. After all, they can't fix things if they don't know they're broken.
I agree, but over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again?niomosy wrote:
This is true. There's still some validity in bringing up those problems, I think.TriggerHappy998 wrote:
Bugs will always be present in any and every game. It's a known fact that you can't please everyone. Thus people will complain.niomosy wrote:
You have to admit, there are valid gripes in the game still. Perhaps not the ones that are filling a lot of the threads these days but there are still bugs. Even though I'm mostly happy with this patch, I do notice some issues still. I think that bringing these issues up is a valid thing to do.
Where I think you're coming in is when they just get blown out of proportion because many people seem to want to be drama queens about it. I don't deny that that's the case but we're always going to get that, aren't we?
Still, I'll go along playing the game as long as I find it enjoyable. I may chime in on bugs or gameplay issues now and then in the hopes of adding some constructive criticism. After all, they can't fix things if they don't know they're broken.