Spark
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

Can somebody briefly explain to me the whole purpose of occupy wall street? What are they protesting about particularly. What do they want changed?
evil greeeedy wall street ceo's

other than that... who knows? they don't.

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@lbj: proof that it works, tbh. neither party deserved to win, neither won although granted that was before julia grew something approaching a spine.
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Spark wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Can somebody briefly explain to me the whole purpose of occupy wall street? What are they protesting about particularly. What do they want changed?
evil greeeedy wall street ceo's

other than that... who knows? they don't.

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@lbj: proof that it works, tbh. neither party deserved to win, neither won although granted that was before julia grew something approaching a spine.
Some parts had to do with money intermingling with politcs.

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Spark
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Cybargs wrote:

Spark wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Can somebody briefly explain to me the whole purpose of occupy wall street? What are they protesting about particularly. What do they want changed?
evil greeeedy wall street ceo's

other than that... who knows? they don't.

---

@lbj: proof that it works, tbh. neither party deserved to win, neither won although granted that was before julia grew something approaching a spine.
Some parts had to do with money intermingling with politcs.

I AM 99%
i don't see how this is any more specific or enlightening than what i posted
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-Sh1fty-
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Alright that's what I read it was about. I just don't understand the sheer stupidity.

Their jobs come from these people. Any item they purchase is cheaper because these people make them en-mass. They have evil CEOs and corporations to thank for their cell phones, radios, cars, food, drinks, clothing, entertainment, etc.

Are these people really that idiotic?
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Spark wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Spark wrote:


evil greeeedy wall street ceo's

other than that... who knows? they don't.

---

@lbj: proof that it works, tbh. neither party deserved to win, neither won although granted that was before julia grew something approaching a spine.
Some parts had to do with money intermingling with politcs.

I AM 99%
i don't see how this is any more specific or enlightening than what i posted
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Spark
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

Alright that's what I read it was about. I just don't understand the sheer stupidity.

Their jobs come from these people. Any item they purchase is cheaper because these people make them en-mass. They have evil CEOs and corporations to thank for their cell phones, radios, cars, food, drinks, clothing, entertainment, etc.

Are these people really that idiotic?
tbf that shouldn't discount legitimate political concerns against ceo's and the like and questions about social inequality being raised, because otherwise if you take that logic to the extreme you basically give the "upper class" (excuse me whilst i throw up in a bush after using such a pejorative-laden phrase) a blank cheque. which is bad any way you cut it.

but the honest answer to your question is yeah, probably.

edit: i am australian. i spell normally.

Last edited by Spark (2011-10-18 23:50:29)

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I think you mean ruling class.
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people are idiotic for questioning why money buys special privileges and why the government more often than not represents monied interests instead of the common person?
Jay
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If you wanna get right down to it, yes. Who has a larger impact on the country as a whole? Me? Or the CEO of Microsoft? His position gives him the power to speak for thousands of employees. I can only speak for myself and my family. Not everyone is equally important Ken.
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special privileges within government.  Power corrupts 99% of the time.  Money = power.  If you don't see a problem with the special relationship between powerful companies/individuals and government then it's YOU that's the idiot.
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

special privileges within government.  Power corrupts 99% of the time.  Money = power.  If you don't see a problem with the special relationship between powerful companies/individuals and government then it's YOU that's the idiot.
What's your alternative then?
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decentralize government, put more power on local government including state, county and city, address the commerce clause, build an absolute corporate minimum tax (with no loopholes), make all political campaigns financed by government with a cap on spending, etc

We need to build tools into the government fabric that disallows corruption and favoritism.
Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

decentralize government, put more power on local government including state, county and city, address the commerce clause, build an absolute corporate minimum tax (with no loopholes), make all political campaigns financed by government with a cap on spending, etc

We need to build tools into the government fabric that disallows corruption and favoritism.
How libertarian of you
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more like free thinker.  Why would i peg myself to a platform?  I don't need a label to describe myself to feel better about my position.
Jay
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

more like free thinker.  Why would i peg myself to a platform?  I don't need a label to describe myself to feel better about my position.
I bounce all over the place, it's just the simplest way to categorize my own views.

Anyway, I completely agree about decentralizing power. Doing so enables the average voter to have more direct power over how government exists within his life. Sadly, that's not the way this country operates. Every level of government is constantly striving to empower itself more at the expense of the others, as well as the citizens themselves. Personally, I like the idea of states competing with one another for population. Let Vermont go totally socialist. Let New Hampshire go totally libertarian. See what works. See what doesn't work. This is why I rail against things like Obamacare. It removes my choice to participate or not, whereas if it were done at the state level, and I disagreed with it so vehemently, I could simply pack my bags and move to a more hospitable state. FDR was the single worst thing to ever happen to this country. Before him, people looked to their state for aid or ideas. After him, the country became focused and centralized on Washington.

As for the corporate minimum tax, I agree. We do need to destroy all loopholes in every kind of taxation. However, I feel that corporate tax rates need to be lowered quite dramatically as well. 35% is obscene and it did more to drive our manufacturing and other businesses overseas than unions could've ever managed on their own.

Last, I'm with you on publicly funded elections, but like mandatory voting, it punishes people who wish to stay out of politics completely. It's something I flip flop on. I do see it cutting down on corruption, I just don't necessarily want to pay for some politicians jaunts around the country on speaking tours...
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Ahh Bill Watterson, is there anything you can't explain?

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This is my reading of the core reason for the protest(s) but the protesters themselves are on about everything and nothing.
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As far as I can figure out, Occupy Tampa is protesting to have the right to sleep on the sidewalks in downtown Tampa. The police keep telling them to get up, and that's the main complaint I hear from them..lol
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Occupy Sydney: 4 arrested, stole crates of bread and milk lol
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Jay
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Jay wrote:

Last, I'm with you on publicly funded elections, but like mandatory voting, it punishes people who wish to stay out of politics completely. It's something I flip flop on. I do see it cutting down on corruption, I just don't necessarily want to pay for some politicians jaunts around the country on speaking tours...
Let anyone fund it, make public who is doing the funding, put a cap on how much candidates allowed to spend, don't let anyone but registered candidates campaign.

Works moderately well in the UK.
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ahahhahaah fucking love australia

AHHH A RANGA GET HIM
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Spark
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tim blair's a douchebag but those are pretty funny.
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Meanwhile, Madoff is feeling pretty comfy.

BERNARD Madoff, one of Wall Street's biggest fraudsters, gushed in a letter from prison that he was living in "country club" conditions and was treated like a "celebrity".
The letter, dated August 4, 2009, and broadcast yesterday on the US ABC network, gives a window on the Ponzi-scheme mastermind's lack of remorse as he boasts about being looked up to by other prisoners as if he was "a Mafia don".

ABC included the letter in an interview with Madoff's daughter-in-law, Stephanie Mack, whose husband, Mark Madoff, committed suicide last year on the second anniversary of Madoff's arrest. The handwritten letter to Ms Mack recounts his initial impressions of life in the low-security Butner prison in North Carolina, which he said had "the look and feel of a college campus with lovely lawns and trees".

Madoff - sentenced to 150 years - described how inmates and guards treated him as "quite the celebrity". "They call me either Uncle Bernie or Mr Madoff. I can't walk anywhere without someone shouting their greetings and encouragement," he wrote. "It's really quite sweet how concerned everyone is about my well-being."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/wo … 6173509104

Shouldn't the Police have smacked him around a bit?

Oops, laws are different for the 1%.
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