10 years in Afghanistan

2011-10-13 07:18:56

#151

Beduin: Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid; +510|6004|شمال

The Afghanistan Analysts Network wrote:
ISAF may continue to hold that the capture‐or‐kill raids are the safest and most effective tool against the insurgency, but this remains to be proven, particularly in the context of the data cited in this report. The somewhat regular provision of data to media outlets is a positive gesture, but, as shown here, there is no way to evaluate the claims made, nor is it issued systematically enough to be able to draw even basic comparisons with previous months. The lack of transparency is particularly apparent in the case of the insurgent ‘leaders’ that were reportedly being killed and captured; there is no way to properly evaluate these claims, aside from in the manner that this report has attempted.

Full Report

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2012-01-04 16:29:52

#152

Beduin: Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid; +510|6004|شمال

Taliban strike deal with Qatar on office there

KABUL, Afghanistan — The Taliban announced Tuesday that they will open an office in the Persian Gulf nation of Qatar to hold talks with the United States, an unprecedented step toward a peace process that might lead to a winding down of the 10-year war in Afghanistan.
Although U.S. and Taliban representatives have met secretly several times over the past year in Europe and the Persian Gulf, this is the first time the Islamist insurgent group has publicly expressed willingness for substantive negotiations.

In recent months, the idea of a Taliban political office in the Qatari capital of Doha has become a central element in U.S. efforts to draw the insurgents into such talks. The idea is to give the Taliban more legitimacy to negotiate in a location that presumably would at least partly shield them from Pakistani pressure.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45859143/ns … wTu2dROjQw

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2012-01-04 17:29:25

#153

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|6944|Tampa Bay Florida

Beduin, do you see the Taliban as a terrorist network or a Pashtun nationalist movement?

Also, you seem to know Arabic. Which country are you from?

2012-01-04 18:06:29

#154

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6360|eXtreme to the maX

Who sees them as a terrorist network?

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2012-01-04 18:28:49

#155

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|6944|Tampa Bay Florida

Dilbert_X wrote:
Who sees them as a terrorist network?

Well if we are not in Afghanistan to fight terrorists then what the fuck are we doing there?

2012-01-04 18:29:50

#156

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6360|eXtreme to the maX

AQ is in Pakistan now....

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2012-01-04 18:31:07

#157

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5840

Spearhead wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Who sees them as a terrorist network?
Well if we are not in Afghanistan to fight terrorists then what the fuck are we doing there?

Trying to not lose face

2012-01-04 18:31:43

#158

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|6944|Tampa Bay Florida

durp it was a rhetorical question

2012-01-04 18:33:22

#159

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5840

uh huh

2012-01-04 18:33:26

#160

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|6944|Tampa Bay Florida

Macbeth wrote:
Spearhead wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Who sees them as a terrorist network?
Well if we are not in Afghanistan to fight terrorists then what the fuck are we doing there?
Trying to not lose face

Pentagon Papers :

70% - To avoid a humiliating U.S. defeat.
20% - To keep [South Vietnam] (and the adjacent) territory from Chinese/terrorist hands.
10% - To permit the people [of South Vietnam] to enjoy a better, freer way of life.

Good call.

2012-01-04 18:37:05

#161

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6360|eXtreme to the maX

So its Vietnam 2 - nothing was learnt.

Derp.

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2012-01-04 18:40:53

#162

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|6944|Tampa Bay Florida

I am not arguing against anything youve said

herp anti American douche derp dee derp

2012-01-04 18:44:46

#163

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6360|eXtreme to the maX

I just asked if anyone did see them as a terrorist network.

Were there terrorist networks in Vietnam?

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2012-01-04 18:48:59

#164

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|6944|Tampa Bay Florida

No but there were communist networks to be sure

2012-01-04 19:04:51

#165

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6947

Spearhead wrote:
Beduin, do you see the Taliban as a terrorist network or a Pashtun nationalist movement?

Also, you seem to know Arabic. Which country are you from?

If the Taliban is a Pashtun nationalist movement then they would mean to remain as an entity with presence in Afghanistan whether or not the US is there.

Which means either we make them our friends our we kill all the males. But of course we have no reason to make such decisive moves. For if we have this quasi-enemy to fight then we have a reason to keep our military in the region.

Terrorism was present in Vietnam. Villages that supported Saigon were subject to acts of terrorism, aka raping & pillaging by the NVA and Vietcong.

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2012-01-04 19:11:06

#166

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6947

Also we firebombed e'rybody.

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2012-01-04 19:12:19

#167

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6947

Taliban enforcing strict sharia law is basically terrorism.

x

2012-01-04 19:28:44

#168

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6360|eXtreme to the maX

Superior Mind wrote:
Taliban enforcing strict sharia law is basically terrorism.

So the Saudis are terrorists?

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2012-01-04 19:32:35

#169

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6947

Well, to a certain some, yes. But in the remote locals of Afghan life we might except injustices to exist at a more commonly violent extreme.

In Afghanistan Sharia is used to control the population by making the women fat and docile and the men turned into either fighters or poppy growers.

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2012-01-04 19:35:21

#170

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6360|eXtreme to the maX

Injustice =/= terrorism, theres injustice in every judicial system.

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2012-01-04 19:38:18

#171

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7026|PNW

Shocking wrote:
1. an Afghan voter turnout rate of only 40% in 2010 elections according to an Afghan election commission.

This may have already been brought up:

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html

There's also no Taliban to strong-arm us into voting a specific way or not voting at all. So I'd say if they've got a 40% turnout, that's doing pretty well.

2012-01-04 19:39:49

#172

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6360|eXtreme to the maX

Superior Mind wrote:
In Afghanistan Sharia is used to control the population by making the women fat and docile and the men turned into either fighters or poppy growers.

How is that different from USA/Canada?

un13 wrote:
There's also no Taliban to strong-arm us into voting a specific way or not voting at all.

Exactly, Karzai just stuffs the ballots, so much less violent and achieves the same end.

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2012-01-04 19:41:07

#173

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6947

50 millions years of male aggression is hard to let go of.

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2012-01-04 19:42:19

#174

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6947

Dilbert_X wrote:
Superior Mind wrote:
In Afghanistan Sharia is used to control the population by making the women fat and docile and the men turned into either fighters or poppy growers.
How is that different from USA/Canada?

un13 wrote:
There's also no Taliban to strong-arm us into voting a specific way or not voting at all.
Exactly, Karzai just stuffs the ballots, so much less violent and achieves the same end.

Dilbert, in America/Canada people have choice.

The laws and law enforcement of our societies do not prevent any man or woman from living to their full human potential. The major malfunction is that we have no moral issues with preying on the stupid.

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2012-01-04 19:43:14

#175

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6360|eXtreme to the maX

The end result is the same.

Interesting.

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