Would JFK be anywhere close to as revered as he is today had he not been assassinated in 1963?
depends on the amount of hookers
He would be ripped apart in todays media with his extra marital activities.nukchebi0 wrote:
Would JFK be anywhere close to as revered as he is today had he not been assassinated in 1963?
Depends on how he would have handled Vietnam. It wasn't much more than a CIA playground at the time of his assassination.
Likely not. Just finished reading Tim Weiner's history of the CIA and the stuff in there about JFK and Bobbie Kennedy are absolutely unbelievable. I mean, they're obviously products of their times with their fierce anti-communism bents (the amount of covert ops to topple govts launched during the Kennedy years, all under the supervision of Bobbie, is ridiculous!), but man some of the stuff... yea, then considering how much of a playboy JFK was...
Nah, he was a Democrat. He'd be a hero like Clinton for boning everything that moves.lowing wrote:
He would be ripped apart in todays media with his extra marital activities.nukchebi0 wrote:
Would JFK be anywhere close to as revered as he is today had he not been assassinated in 1963?
Well thats true.Stingray24 wrote:
Nah, he was a Democrat. He'd be a hero like Clinton for boning everything that moves.lowing wrote:
He would be ripped apart in todays media with his extra marital activities.nukchebi0 wrote:
Would JFK be anywhere close to as revered as he is today had he not been assassinated in 1963?
He stood up to the CIA. So probably not.
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He did not, him and his brother abused the hell out of the CIA and tasked them with the most wildly ridiculous missions. CIA covert action didn't decease under Kennedy - it exploded.Kmar wrote:
He stood up to the CIA. So probably not.
Pretty sure that Clinton wasn't hailed as a hero during the whole sex scandal. Since when has any politician been hailed as a hero for boning? John Edwards is/was a Democrat and he got ripped to shreds for cheating on his wife. Anthony Weiner? Democrat again. Sorry, but in the USA it doesn't matter what party you're in - if you're at all deemed to be sexually deviant or horny in any way, you can kiss your political career goodbye (unless you're Newt Gingrich).Stingray24 wrote:
Nah, he was a Democrat. He'd be a hero like Clinton for boning everything that moves.
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jfk was a married catholic that was boning marilyn monroe, hollywood's biggest sex-starlot.
"if you're deemed to be sexually deviant or horny in any way..." ?
didn't seem to affect kennedy, the transgressive sinner, all that much
"if you're deemed to be sexually deviant or horny in any way..." ?
didn't seem to affect kennedy, the transgressive sinner, all that much
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That's because back then the world of politics was different. Nowadays if anyone gets wind of a politician cheating they get lynched instantly on the spot.
well the point still stands. it's a bit of an open contradiction to try and explain kennedy's modern myth status with accounts of how promiscuity is shameful.
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He sure as hell did. It was long suspected, and since the FOIA and recently released telephone conversations it became more evident. The CIA hid some of their schemes from the potus because of his lack of confidence in them, especially after the bay of pigs.CapnNismo wrote:
He did not, him and his brother abused the hell out of the CIA and tasked them with the most wildly ridiculous missions. CIA covert action didn't decease under Kennedy - it exploded.Kmar wrote:
He stood up to the CIA. So probably not.
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I want to splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.
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He'd switch parties if he were still alive.
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prove it warman... I'm pretty damn sure his "multilateral" international cooperation is more in line with the bamster than any republican school of thought.
Bush's unilateralism is not indicative of Republican approaches to politics. It is indicative of Bush's approach to politics.Trotskygrad wrote:
prove it warman... I'm pretty damn sure his "multilateral" international cooperation is more in line with the bamster than any republican school of thought.
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well I'm just indicating that JFK probably wouldn't have switched parties...FEOS wrote:
Bush's unilateralism is not indicative of Republican approaches to politics. It is indicative of Bush's approach to politics.Trotskygrad wrote:
prove it warman... I'm pretty damn sure his "multilateral" international cooperation is more in line with the bamster than any republican school of thought.
after all presidents do define party lines, to some degree
If you look at Reagan and Bush Sr, as well as the track Bush Jr was taking prior to 9/11, the truth is that Republicans are just as multilateral, on balance, as Democrats. GWB just took a very strong stance (but still built a larger coalition than his father) after 9/11. People tend to overlook that.Trotskygrad wrote:
well I'm just indicating that JFK probably wouldn't have switched parties...FEOS wrote:
Bush's unilateralism is not indicative of Republican approaches to politics. It is indicative of Bush's approach to politics.Trotskygrad wrote:
prove it warman... I'm pretty damn sure his "multilateral" international cooperation is more in line with the bamster than any republican school of thought.
after all presidents do define party lines, to some degree
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Cuban Missile Crisis. Bamster would have folded like a cheap tent. I don't think Bush would have backed down. How do you think an 'R' like Cheney would have handled it?... Fuck, he probably caused it, bad example.Trotskygrad wrote:
prove it warman... I'm pretty damn sure his "multilateral" international cooperation is more in line with the bamster than any republican school of thought.
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Interesting how Brin knows what would happen in an absurd hypothetical.
Definitely, Obama's a softie on foreign policy. Just like how he withdrew all of the troops. Just like how he let Bin Laden go.13rin wrote:
Cuban Missile Crisis. Bamster would have folded like a cheap tent. I don't think Bush would have backed down. How do you think an 'R' like Cheney would have handled it?... Fuck, he probably caused it, bad example.Trotskygrad wrote:
prove it warman... I'm pretty damn sure his "multilateral" international cooperation is more in line with the bamster than any republican school of thought.
Your hatred of the man has officially clouded any possible sound judgment.
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one can say the same for your love of the man
Yeah, I guess supporting someone in an election instantly means you love them. Another quality marine contribution.
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and such a great contribution.
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Why do you want Obama to win reelection? I mean- you've made up your mind already when it comes to 2012?