jord
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menzo wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

menzo wrote:

why would you smoke it is just a big waste of money
eh just got used to it. everybodies smoke in asia and now its biting me in the ass in australia where its 16 a pack. thank god for duty free and i only smoke when im around friends.
if you would smoke a pack a day for 30years it will cost you €50000  just sayin  (dutch prices tho)
It'll also get your 500 sexual encounters...




but nah i dont smoke.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5598|London, England

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


nope.  like i said a lot of people dont really pay that much in taxes.
you mean federal tax? cause i dont know how you could not pay state and local through sales tax...
A good portion of US income tax revenue comes from wealthier people. I think if you're married with two kids you can make up to like $50,000 and end up having very little tax burden because of all the tax breaks, credits and deductions. It's pretty redonkulous yo
Hey, lucky for me that I'm only in the 25% tax bracket instead of the 28% that my fiancee is in. That's just federal taxes too...
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Hurricane2k9
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Jay wrote:

28% that my fiancee is in
guess ol' Schubert's marrying up!
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Jaekus
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I cbf reading the whole thread but we have had the images on packets in Australia for quite a few years now (maybe 6? More?).

I dunno I smoked for 10 years, quit coming up to three years ago now (late September) and tbh I think the images were a contributing factor. Not a big one but over time as I got desensitised them I also thought in the back of my mind I didn't want to end up like that.

But really, what got me to quit was the fact that over time it just made less and less sense to smoke. The more I thought about the logic behind it, the more ridiculous it seemed I was paying all this money to stick burning bits of paper in my mouth to cause health problems.

Now there is a legislation being introduced into the Federal Government to have all cigarette packaging to be plain brown, with no logos or branding at all. I dunno if it will work or not. It seems every couple years all they do is up the taxes on them more. I remember when I start and smokes were $4-$6 a packet. Now they're $16+
-Sh1fty-
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screw the FDA
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11 Bravo
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+965|5477|Cleveland, Ohio

-Sh1fty- wrote:

screw the FDA
Stimey
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+786|6360|Ontario | Canada
yea we've had images on packs for a long time

tbh I don't know why they haven't made them illegal yet. absolutely no benefits.

oh wait yes I do its a huge government cash cow.
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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Stimey wrote:

yea we've had images on packs for a long time

tbh I don't know why they haven't made them illegal yet. absolutely no benefits.

oh wait yes I do its a huge government cash cow.
soda has no benefits
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11 Bravo
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+965|5477|Cleveland, Ohio

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Stimey wrote:

yea we've had images on packs for a long time

tbh I don't know why they haven't made them illegal yet. absolutely no benefits.

oh wait yes I do its a huge government cash cow.
soda has no benefits
wrong.  it hydrates you.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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11 Bravo wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Stimey wrote:

yea we've had images on packs for a long time

tbh I don't know why they haven't made them illegal yet. absolutely no benefits.

oh wait yes I do its a huge government cash cow.
soda has no benefits
wrong.  it hydrates you.
cigarettes lower your risk of ulcerative colitis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_benefits_of_smoking

next...
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11 Bravo
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:


soda has no benefits
wrong.  it hydrates you.
cigarettes lower your risk of ulcerative colitis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_benefits_of_smoking

next...
cool
Hurricane2k9
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weird isn't it?
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11 Bravo
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smoking MAY prevent it.  soda DOES hydrate you.

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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5942|College Park, MD
smoking (or more specifically, nicotine) DOES lower stress levels in smokers or at least takes the edge off. one also has to wonder whether or not something should be banned simply because of whether it has any "benefits." alcohol doesn't have any benefits, at least not clear-cut definite ones (AFAIK the thing about red wine is still a "may" just like cigarettes).

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11 Bravo
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

smoking (or more specifically, nicotine)DOES lower stress levels in smokers or at least takes the edge off.
lol come on dude.
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alcohol doesn't have any benefits ...... have you ever tried to bang an ugly chick



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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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11 Bravo wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

smoking (or more specifically, nicotine)DOES lower stress levels in smokers or at least takes the edge off.
lol come on dude.
you want a bunch of people walking around being assholes cos they can't smoke?
"oh well they can find other ways to lower their stress"
and people can just buy some aquafina instead of coke
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11 Bravo
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

smoking (or more specifically, nicotine)DOES lower stress levels in smokers or at least takes the edge off.
lol come on dude.
you want a bunch of people walking around being assholes cos they can't smoke?
"oh well they can find other ways to lower their stress"
and people can just buy some aquafina instead of coke
i dont care if people smoke
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6972|St. Andrews / Oslo

Jay wrote:

Does it smell bad? Yes. Is it probably going to kill me in the end? Yes. Do I wish I'd never started? Yes. None of that changes the fact that the habit is so entrenched in my personality that giving it up is like ripping out a piece of me.
This is exactly my point - So many (most?) smokers wish they'd never started, and a lot of them cannot quit. We do not want the same thing to happen to our younger generation, who don't have the same ability to judge the consequences of smoking like you do. It's sadly going to have a negative effect on your wallet, but I think it's worth it if it helps make cigarettes a thing of the past. But obviously, I'm not paying any of this, so there you go.

The taxes seem to have worked really well - how often do you hear people use the, "why the fuck would you, it's so expensive" argument? It already popped up in page one of this thread, and I here people my age say it all the time. And now I don't know a single person (my age) who smokes. I'm quite happy about that.
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7015|Moscow, Russia

Jenspm wrote:

Good
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7015|Moscow, Russia

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

smoking (or more specifically, nicotine) DOES lower stress levels in smokers or at least takes the edge off.
smoking, via addiction/withdrawal, creates more stress than it fixes.

next.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7015|Noizyland

I don't think anyone here is arguing that smoking is good for your healh.
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7015|Moscow, Russia

Ty wrote:

I don't think anyone here is arguing that smoking is good for your healh.
right there.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
BVC
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We've had that sort of thing here for years now.  You get the odd smoker who says "eww thats gross I dont wanna look at that when im having a fag", but they go ahead and smoke anyway.  Most smokers ignore the warnings, and it even provides some of them with a perverse thing to collect or converse about while they're fagging up.

What does work (somewhat) is raising the price of tobacco.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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Shahter wrote:

Ty wrote:

I don't think anyone here is arguing that smoking is good for your healh.
right there.
that was more of a retort to marine's claim that soda has benefits since it hydrates you. cigarettes do too, apparently, but obviously the negatives outweight any benefits.
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