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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|4257|Sydney
Well that's great for you, honestly is. Whenever I think of suburbia though, I think of the pictures I posted.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,718|5815|Oxferd Ohire
there are some newer subdivisions like those in my area but most older ones in the area are nothing like that. their lack of trees is distrubing
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|4257|Sydney
Yeah, I find it a total eye sore. Not to mention depressing. It's like the institutionalisation of home ownership.

Last edited by Jaekus (2011-05-16 18:58:58)

FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|5489|'Murka

So the argument here is about architectural styles?
https://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/525145483664f25a47abo.jpg
https://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S2008/trhodes1/gif/urban-sprawl-florida.jpg
https://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083/525145464625cddfa8e7o.jpg
https://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|5817|Toronto | Canada

urban beats suburban anyday
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|4780|College Park, MD
god those suburbs are horrifying

mine at least has some character. the houses don't all look the same
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/36793/marylandsig.jpg
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|5774|NJ
Why does the second to last one read BOO in it?
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|5616|Long Island, New York

FEOS wrote:

So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
Looks like the entire state of Florida.
Blue Herring
Member
+13|3883

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

god those suburbs are horrifying

mine at least has some character. the houses don't all look the same
A lot of the suburbs here are the same way (different colors). They're not that bad, really.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|4257|Sydney

FEOS wrote:

So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
Of course there's a lot of difference. I'd argue there is more different than similar.

The ones you posted have character, aren't totally uniform, have trees and parks and are quite pleasing to the eye.

The ones I posted are all from the same cookie cutter, arranged in such a way so they can cram as many houses together. No individuality; you're a number, not a free man!
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|5679|132 and Bush

Poseidon wrote:

FEOS wrote:

So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
Looks like the entire state of Florida.
I think you mean South Florida man. Both my sister and parents live on almost an acre.. in neighborhoods. I'm on about a third, but there is a conservation lot behind my house. Our HOA's here limit the same styles of house/arch in the same neighborhoods for the specific purpose of avoiding a neighborhood of cookie cutter houses.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
BVC
Member
+325|5774
Moved into a new place recently, its great - garage with workshop, BBQ area, and about 25 square metres of vege garden space (planter boxes and standard soil patch) out the back.  Theres a big garden which is ornamental - native grasses/flaxes and the like - which I could convert to veges if shit got tough, would give me 45-50 sqm total.  When summer rolls around I'll be pumping out the tomatoes and chillis!  Very tempted to get a greenhouse too.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|5616|Long Island, New York

Kmar wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

FEOS wrote:

So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
Looks like the entire state of Florida.
I think you mean South Florida man. Both my sister and parents live on almost an acre.. in neighborhoods. I'm on about a third, but there is a conservation lot behind my house. Our HOA's here limit the same styles of house/arch in the same neighborhoods for the specific purpose of avoiding a neighborhood of cookie cutter houses.
Could be. Whenever I fly into FLL, all I see is that style of housing.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|5753|Canberra, AUS
What really gets me about that last picture is the complete lack of trees tbh.

Yes, yes, I know, typical Canberran, more a park/forest than a city etc. gagf, the colours around this place about now are awesome.

Last edited by Spark (2011-05-16 23:40:47)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|5679|132 and Bush

Poseidon wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


Looks like the entire state of Florida.
I think you mean South Florida man. Both my sister and parents live on almost an acre.. in neighborhoods. I'm on about a third, but there is a conservation lot behind my house. Our HOA's here limit the same styles of house/arch in the same neighborhoods for the specific purpose of avoiding a neighborhood of cookie cutter houses.
Could be. Whenever I fly into FLL, all I see is that style of housing.
Don't get me wrong.. it exist. But it's more prominent south and east of the state.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
globefish23
sophisticated slacker
+334|5402|Graz, Austria
Here in Austria, pretty much everyone with a house (be it single-family house or a row house in a suburban estate) uses up part of their property to make a garden for growing vegetables.

Furthermore, allotment gardening has a big tradition here, many of them actually founded illegally on empty community spaces, but then later turned into official associations, covered by the respective laws. That way, many of those allotment garden estates are in the middle of otherwise urban areas and housing companies are craving for those as building areas.

Sadly, our backyard is only a mossy piece of lawn, constantly flooded by the rain, because the soil underneath is very clayey and the sun doesn't shine on most of it before noon.
I'd need to scoop off the top 1 meter layer and fill it up with humus to be able to grow anything there. Most likely though, we'll get some raised beds or large, yet moveable troughs and put everything on top of the lawn.

And I want to plant a tree. Cherry or apricot.
The only plant remotely like that are two elderberry bushes, that grew out of our thuja hedge in the last year, courtesy of bird droppings.
They already began to blossom and I think we will be able to harvest the blossoms to make syrup from the nectar for the first time.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,752|5184|eXtreme to the maX

FEOS wrote:

So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
Depends, no variation in style is mindnumbing.
#FreeBritney
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|5489|'Murka

Jaekus and Dilbert are arguing architectural aesthetics. They like European style more than American. Look beyond the building style. It's the same thing: people living crowded together on twisty streets. The big difference is that in the US version, you're not in a flat.

Spark: That last shot is from either Las Vegas (or North Vegas) or the Phoenix area. Of course there aren't any trees.

And pay attention folks. All I did was copy/pasta from two previous posts.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|4257|Sydney
It's not just architectural aesthetics. Looks at the parks and trees and the general vibe of the place. It feels alive. Compare it to the other ones, they just feel sterile and lifeless.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|5489|'Murka

Jaekus wrote:

It's not just architectural aesthetics. Looks at the parks and trees and the general vibe of the place. It feels alive. Compare it to the other ones, they just feel sterile and lifeless.
Not all suburbs in the US look like those pics. The suburb (and most others) I lived in in VA had tons of old-growth trees and parks. Totally depends on location.

Unfortunately, some developers here do have a habit of clearing the land out and planting small trees in the front or back yards once the houses are built, losing any growth that was there before. I guess it's more efficient for them?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|4257|Sydney

FEOS wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

It's not just architectural aesthetics. Looks at the parks and trees and the general vibe of the place. It feels alive. Compare it to the other ones, they just feel sterile and lifeless.
Not all suburbs in the US look like those pics. The suburb (and most others) I lived in in VA had tons of old-growth trees and parks. Totally depends on location.

Unfortunately, some developers here do have a habit of clearing the land out and planting small trees in the front or back yards once the houses are built, losing any growth that was there before. I guess it's more efficient for them?
Oh don't get me wrong, I wasn't suggesting that was all of suburbia in the US, far from it. We have the similar style here in some parts though, it's depressing to drive through. The Gold Coast for example is like that in parts, as are the newer developments in Western Australia. There are places like it in other parts too, those two just come to mind quite easily.

Developers, I think they see any space as a potential dollar, so old growth trees are taking up valuable real estate, and it's easier to chuck in a sapling or bush for the sake of "aesthetics". It's sad to see, but it seems popular.
menzo
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+616|5524|Amsterdam‫

FEOS wrote:

So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
except most of the buildings from my pictures are 4 story apartment buildings with parks in between and it is only 10mins from the city center. these are the neighbourhoods where everybody wants to live here.
https://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/menzo2003/fredbf2.png
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,003|4436|London, England

FEOS wrote:

Jaekus and Dilbert are arguing architectural aesthetics. They like European style more than American. Look beyond the building style. It's the same thing: people living crowded together on twisty streets. The big difference is that in the US version, you're not in a flat.

Spark: That last shot is from either Las Vegas (or North Vegas) or the Phoenix area. Of course there aren't any trees.

And pay attention folks. All I did was copy/pasta from two previous posts.
No, the big difference is the utter waste of space that one story tract housing is. Sure, in that picture everyone has his own little plot, and that may help his self esteem, but it's not like he can actually do anything with it. If he and three of his neighbors lived in a four story house instead they could surround themselves with green space. Instead, they'd rather live on their 1/8 acre and pretend that they actually own it and that it somehow means they've arrived in the world. They don't. And they haven't.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|5549
so jay are you just going to rent an apartment all your life or something? what are you personally proposing to do, here?
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|4780|College Park, MD

Jay wrote:

pretend that they actually own it and that it somehow means they've arrived in the world. They don't. And they haven't.
what the hell are you talking about?
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/36793/marylandsig.jpg

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