BF2S Forums Obama Press Conference: Bin Laden Is Dead

Macbeth wrote:

Though I mostly agree with Kmar points- military spending exploded from 01-11. The number was something like a 200% increase in the time frame. Compared to spending in other places like infrastructure, education, etc. it could be argued that the 9/11 marked the beginning of a priority shift in the federal government.

Kmar wrote:

lowing wrote:

Kmar wrote:

The point is that they were separated from the situation. Personally I haven't thought about that bearded pole smoke in very very long time. It certainly didn't dominate my daily thoughts, like perhaps it does with those who have lost a friend or family member in the war or the attacks. The economic turmoil we endure now has very little to do with that man. It's a lending crisis at it's core. The idea that OBL has had this economy stuck in the mud and that it's not a result of our financial policies is ridiculous. As a fan of personal responsibility you should be able to see right through that and recognize it for what it is.. a scapegoat. That loss of a sense of security is also exaggerated. If one looks at the situation logically it's VERY easy to regain a sense of security. Then perhaps they won't be subject to kneejerk emotional whims that allow our politicians to manipulate policy. That's a far greater threat to our freedoms than Osama Bin Laden.

Yea we got him. That's good. Am I calling in to work or skipping school? No. I'll be much more happier when, if ever, our soldiers come home. I do have connections to some of them http://is.gd/RsunhP .

I didn't say we are fucked economically still because of OBL, but certainly in the early days of post 9/11 terrorism put us on the mat, with the US scrambling as to how t orespond, how to make sure it doesn't happen again, and all of the bullshit that has transpired in security since. and yes, when one can not carry toothpaste on a plane now and has to get anally probed to board a flight, my comments on security have not been exaggerated.

The economy bounced back rather quickly following the attacks. It resulted in a relative few people losing their jobs. Do you believe that the mobs of people taking to the streets today are the same people who lost their jobs in 2001? It's highly unlikely that most of them even knew people who did. And using your logic the assassination of a few politicians would be more cause for celebration, as they had a much bigger hand in bringing down the economy.

You're right. You can't carry toothpaste on a plane without getting anally probed. No exaggeration at all there. Anyways, if you think said security procedures are actually necessary it's only then that it's not an overreaction. I don't think they are, and so the response is exaggerated.

11 Bravo wrote:

honestly without oil it would mostly look like yemen

Uzique wrote:

this doesn't happen because the middle-east doesn't completely fuck with your country on a daily basis. the middle-east doesn't have a history of taking all the wealth out of your country and distributing it to foreign people whilst the majority of your population live below the poverty line. it's not comparable, at all. but we're missing the point a bit.

here, watch this... they're always enlightening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IgOVOPLTYI

Uzique wrote:

lowing wrote:

Uzique wrote:

and like i said it's not 'ideological', i'm not being a contrarian little anti-american bitch. nor am i sympathizing with or deploring the death of a terrorist scumbag. i've even admitted earlier in this thread that the 'messy' and 'controversial' parts of this operation are, sadly and yet realistically, entirely predictable. it just wasn't going to be a textbook, perfectly-legal mission. it's osama bin laden. an exceptional case.

that said, with 'humanism' in mind and whilst we can discuss something of an 'ideal'... yeah, perhaps less drunken college kids cheering in the streets. our side are the ones that are meant to be civilized, advanced, democratic and respectful of human rights. how many times have members of this forum posted links to islamic protests or street-movements in a disgusted and dismissive tone? how many of you have looked down at flag burning and protest actions from the middle-east? yet it's somehow a big party and an excusable behaviour when its americans doing it on american soil. that doesn't float... and it's so much worse when america are the one's meant to be setting an example to the entire world. what happens when the interventionist state starts acting and displays public behaviour like the 'failed states' it intervenes in?

in all fairness to the comparison, no one in the states masses for protests against the ME or its people calling for the deaths of all Muslims. Compared to the "death to Americans" banter displayed in the ME, along with beheading videos and charred American bodies hanging from bridges or dragged through the streets. I do not think it is fair to discuss them as the same things.

this doesn't happen because the middle-east doesn't completely fuck with your country on a daily basis. the middle-east doesn't have a history of taking all the wealth out of your country and distributing it to foreign people whilst the majority of your population live below the poverty line. it's not comparable, at all. but we're missing the point a bit.

here, watch this... they're always enlightening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IgOVOPLTYI