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uziq wrote:

a lot of second hand clothes are vastly better than buying new, disposable trash from the far-east that is (a) terrible for the environment and (b) costing some child his third finger. 'fast fashion' and dead-cheap stuff like ASOS, H&M/Topshop, supermarket brands, etc. are an absolute blight and shouldn't even exist. even poor people like a hundred years ago at least had one set of good clothes that they just wore all the time. people clothing themselves in garish wardrobes of sub-$30 plastics is fucking gross.

what was that huge MLM scheme that was big with unemployed mums in arkansas a few years ago? some huge ponzi scheme that thrived on facebook? i can't recall the name. a bunch of hicks buying in huge wardrobes of plastic clothing, printed tights/leggings, etc. and selling them out of their living room. jesus fuck. i don't think there has ever been an uglier civilisation in the history of mankind than modern america. even fucking serfs in the middle-ages had bespoke tailoring.

Some of my longest lasting stuff was from places like Goodwill. As a bonus, occasionally you can find a jackpot of old or out-of-print media. I remember at school, kids found out wearing second-hand clothing was a one-way ticket to endless taunting. So dumb.

Custom fitting has a partially deserved reputation of being staffed by rude, nasty people. I'm sure that discourages some people even if it's not the main cause for people avoiding getting a proper fit.

Also, I remember watching a documentary where runoff from a dye/textiles plant (Indonesia, I think) was polluting all the water downstream and causing no end of health issues, and nothing was really happening about it.

there’s so many apps now that you don’t need to do the postcode lottery anymore with charity/thrift stores (i used to do this when living in the leafy enclaves of west london; still useful for records and rare books). i know a girl that has pretty much amassed a wardrobe of yves saint laurent designer jackets and suits from the 80s for next to nothing, for instance. every single time she goes out, people want to know what store she got so-and-so from, which would ordinarily be like a $1000+ item. you can get anything in a few finger clicks or app searches.

things i buy new are work shirts and office clothes, shoes, coats, etc. and even then i pay a premium for stuff made in europe and that i’ll keep for years. not really interested in changing style every season.

compare this to the prevailing trend, which has been purposefully cultivated in the fashion industry, of people pretty much continually buying new clothes from ASOS with every paycheque. all air freighted, of course. there are even wildly popular credit apps and store schemes that let people buy tranches of clothing and return 85% of it after trying it on at home. all that being winged back and forth by couriers, for sub-standard clothing that will wear out in about 10 wash cycles. literal insanity.

next to industry and agriculture, it’s obviously fairly trivial. but the fashion industry is one of the most wasteful consumer industries of them all.

Last edited by uziq (2019-12-21 02:55:45)

On the interwebz I could buy all the nostalgic toys I couldn't afford, all in their boxes in mint condition in, about 5 minutes, but what would be the point really?

I think the whole nostalgia thing will largely die with the boomers, a generation which looks backwards not forwards.
In 20-30 years '57 Mustangs, signed Babe Ruth baseball gloves and rusty Coca-Cola signs are going to be worthless, the next generation will barely go down that alley.
Having said that I wouldn't mind picking up some Tamiya cars and an Atari VCS, but I can buy better modern stuff for less.

As to Dilbert's point, I don't think "the whole nostalgia thing" is being primarily driven by the "baby boomer" generation. They're not usually the ones looking for an N64 with a copy of GoldenEye in good condition. Star Wars paraphernalia and special boxes of Super Mario Bros. macaroni weren't the lost childhood of people's boomer parents. People will be collecting ever changing categories of bric-à-brac for many years to come.

I don't think I've met a single baby boomer who owned a rusty Coca-Cola sign. Ate at places with old license plates mounted on the walls, though.

Quick bit on the vinyl comeback:

https://hub.yamaha.com/five-reasons-vin … a-comeback

the vinyl 'comeback' is already matured at this point. it's been going for a least 10 years. you can now walk into a (dying) chain store like HMV/virgin and buy a spread of current chart albums as well as the entire 'classics' canon on vinyl. there's very little left to 'revive'.

also, as an aside, lol at how timorously and badly some of those arguments are put in the article. 'better sound quality .... well actually this is a myth but FLAC must be specially sought out (?!?)'. bad.

There was an article about how millennials are the nostalgia generation. We throw money at things we were interested in when young but couldn't splurge on.

Magic the Gathering is at an all time profit high due to selling expensive collectables to nostalgic millennials finally with disposable incomes. This has been a thing for me for the past half year.

You can find tons of rebuilt Ramcharger projects (70s, 80s, 90s). But OK, Dilbert, I'll humor you.. Why is it an efficiency/safety question for you whether you'd drive a 3.5 million dollar 60s classic, or a modern car? Would you really be commuting to your daily job in a garage queen?

If every automobile from the 80s and older were magically snipped from history, collective memory, and existence as a whole, I'm sure people would find something nostalgic to collect. You know, like they already do now.

i wouldn't mind getting a guitar again, actually. the popularity of the instrument obviously swings with the relative popularity of the genre. rock was 'the' thing for so many decades (with some notable blips and exceptions, like for disco/funk or rave music). i have little sympathy for rock-ist dads who want to talk about led zeppelin and les pauls well into the 2020s.

i sold a bunch of guitars, including a really nice vintage Vox amplifier and a small pedal board. the pedals, if nothing else, are super useful and interesting bits of kit to have around for any sort of music. talking reverbs, delays, pitch shifters/phasers, ring modulators, overdrive/distortion/fuzz etc. really fun to play around with. i think i'll probably pick up a mid-range basic fender or something and play it through DSP emulation rather than buy a giant amplifier again. say what you want about rappers or DJs, you can practice and bump that shit in headphones. a lot of guitar tech involved being played really loud to sound good (tube amplifiers, analogue distortion and harmonics, etc). i really do not miss going to obnoxiously loud, shrill rock gigs and leaving with tinnitus.

Among other things I already pointed out, let me reiterate my confusion at your going on about stuff like fuel efficiency in million dollar showpieces.

"Whoah, hold up! I'm going to have to dump $30 into gas more often? Darn, batter invest my $3 million in another vehicle."

in the year 2200 petrol-heads will basically be seen like steampunks. creepy.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Its more that its not the sort of thing people will want to own in the near future, like Nazi memorabilia.
The era of gas-guzzlers is not going to be remembered with fondness, except by boomers.

Why is everything boomers with you? Boomers and multiple generations of people after boomers have been adversely affected by high gas prices. Why should any of them remember it with any more fondness than the other?

Growing up in the 80s, people of all ages grumbling at the pump.

And again, someone who spends millions of dollars on collector's cars probably isn't going to care as much about that particular cost of ownership.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYPMbLO4pAY

Oh yeah man, look at all the boomers here and in the comments.

The Republican governor of NJ actually made rolling coal illegal. A bill was created in the state Senate after a coal roller blew a bunch of fumes at a Nissan Leaf electric car that was owned by a state senator while on the turnpike.

Just another example of our state getting it right like our gun laws too.