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aynrandroolz wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

wait, your home school diploma counts as a high school diploma if you take a test that is supervised by your parents??!! O_o

Still have to pass an entry exam to get into colleges. Also, I homeschooled for one year (7th grade) and still had to pass the district's standards (which wasn't much more difficult than a quiz on tying your shoelaces). Maybe it varies from state to state, but I'm sure parents aren't the sole educational authority over homeschooled kids.

i think the point is that parents are hardly impartial and neutral exam invigilators, not that the entry standards are easy (which they probably very much are). what's to stop a parent just rigging the exam for their kids and giving them all the answers? who is there as a third-party during the exam to guarantee the fair-play of the candidate and the veracity of his/her results? unless your parents are like ivy league professors with a maverick streak, being home-schooled seems like a socially and educationally disastrous choice.

Just for a bit of perspective.

From my memory, when I homeschooled for one year I still had to pass district tests and turn them in. If my parents wanted to cheat, they'd have had to buy answer sheets. I don't know how many parents would be willing to go to that extent, since so many of them seem to care more about their kids' own education than teachers. All the dire threat you'll get from a teacher is a sour grade.

Socially, it really isn't that bad if handled right. A homeschooler doesn't have to be a shut-in. Various methods have already been discussed. Even if there is a tendency towards it, there's also a tendency for public/private schoolkids to become shut-ins as well. Go figure. The more defining feature of a child shut-in are parents who keep them strictly under their thumbs and relentlessly nose into their private lives. Sometimes the kid'll rebel successfully, sometimes not...and then become a shut-in out of self-defense.

But it's not good for every situation. At the point where the kid can't effectively book-learn material, the parents are clueless and a professional tutor can't be hired, the kid should be sent back to public/private school. I went back because I was bored out of my socks. I tested way past my grade, but chose not to skip ahead. The next couple of years were spent still being bored, then the remainder being overworked between high school and night school at tech college. I wasn't forced to, I took the encouragement and it became a stupid point of pride.

Macbeth wrote:

An Israeli filmmaker based in California went into hiding after a YouTube trailer of his movie attacking Islam's prophet Muhammad sparked angry assaults by ultra-conservative Muslims on U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya. The U.S. ambassador to Libya and three American members of his staff were killed.

Speaking by phone Tuesday from an undisclosed location, writer and director Sam Bacile remained defiant, saying Islam is a cancer and that the 56-year-old intended his film to be a provocative political statement condemning the religion.

An Israeli decides to move to the U.S. and continue his feud with the Muslims and we lose an embassy.

That jackass pastor has something to do with it as well.

Macbeth wrote:

Jay wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Pell Grants are handouts. Explain how you earned those.

Ahh, the other half of the serial killer duo. You, also, are not worthy of my time. Ta.

I like how you made an impassioned argument about earning your military benefits but refuse to even acknowledge the pell grant money. I'm guessing you are deeply embarrassed by it to the point where you managed to convince yourself it never happened.

Now I don't like to meddle in internet hate wars (the stupid shit you people busy yourself with every day....), but I'm getting a bit tired of constantly reading over this circlejerk jay bash-a-thon that's been going on for the last month if not longer. Disregarding the other 'issues' you lot have with him this pell-grant stuff you bring up every time you get in an argument with him and the 'military welfare' Dilbert keeps going on about are starting to annoy even me.

He actually did 'acknowledge' the Pell Grant and stated that he qualified for it. I don't see what the big issue is here. GS used the pell grant as well (don't see you railing against him) as do, apparantly, 9 million other students. That might just be a majority of the total student population. Jay qualified. That means his direct family had a shitty enough income for him to be granted one. It doesn't look like the gov. has any issue whatsoever with the GI bill stacking on a pell grant because else they would've noted the GI bill as taxable income. It doesn't look like the gov. has a problem with an unmarried couple not being counted as family because well... that one's obvious really. It wouldn't be right to expect that they would support eachother financially through their studies.

On the GI bill being 'military welfare' - if I recall right this system withholds salary of those in service and you're allowed to collect it once you leave the military. You would've known this if you didn't have such a horribly selective, shitty short-term memory dilbert.

So are there going to be any moderate, level headed conservatives here who are just going to man up and admit that Romney's criticism of Obama's response to the attacks before the ambassador was even killed kinda/sorta crosses a line?  I mean, what the fuck, at least wait a day or two.  Was Obama supposed to send in 500 Marines or bomb the embassy with an air strike?  Or perhaps Obama's incompetence means that he cannot even be given more than 6 hours to do his job before he is called a disgrace.

Too late.  The neocons are busy blaming an entire country for the actions of 3 to 5 thugs.  The religious right wants their religious war, and we're all going to have to suck it.

Spearhead wrote:

Too late.  The neocons are busy blaming an entire country for the actions of 3 to 5 thugs.  The religious right wants their religious war, and we're all going to have to suck it.

then they're promoting the sort of mindset that promoted this action in the first place

are they trying to set the world on fire?

Romney moments after the speech accusing the Obama admin of sympathising with the attackers on the embassy:



Kind of a telling moment.

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Mitt the Twit.

Spearhead wrote:

Trotskygrad wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Too late.  The neocons are busy blaming an entire country for the actions of 3 to 5 thugs.  The religious right wants their religious war, and we're all going to have to suck it.

then they're promoting the sort of mindset that promoted this action in the first place

are they trying to set the world on fire?

Islam!  Islam!  Freedom!  Obama the sympathizer!  Islam!  Islam!

Uhh, I guess you don't care about free speech...

Cybargs wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

An Israeli filmmaker based in California went into hiding after a YouTube trailer of his movie attacking Islam's prophet Muhammad sparked angry assaults by ultra-conservative Muslims on U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya. The U.S. ambassador to Libya and three American members of his staff were killed.

Speaking by phone Tuesday from an undisclosed location, writer and director Sam Bacile remained defiant, saying Islam is a cancer and that the 56-year-old intended his film to be a provocative political statement condemning the religion.

An Israeli decides to move to the U.S. and continue his feud with the Muslims and we lose an embassy.

yeah radical islam has nothing to do with it at all. nobody has even heard of this shitty D list film until the attacks happen.

Really, it's just an excuse for violence. They would've found something else if not this.

Scumbag Libya: gets freed of dictator by NATO, kills ambassador of NATO country

i don't get why that consulate didn't have Marines there though. this probably could have been avoided if a sharpshooter blew the brains out of the guy who fired the RPG. as well as fired into the crowd of terrorists.

whatever though. that whole region can fuck itself. diplomacy is great but the people we need to have the most diplomacy with are the ones least interested in it.

Last edited by Hurricane2k9 (2012-09-12 14:56:29)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqz5dbs5zmo

Last edited by west-phoenix-az (2012-09-12 15:40:45)

Cybargs wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

An Israeli filmmaker based in California went into hiding after a YouTube trailer of his movie attacking Islam's prophet Muhammad sparked angry assaults by ultra-conservative Muslims on U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya. The U.S. ambassador to Libya and three American members of his staff were killed.

Speaking by phone Tuesday from an undisclosed location, writer and director Sam Bacile remained defiant, saying Islam is a cancer and that the 56-year-old intended his film to be a provocative political statement condemning the religion.

An Israeli decides to move to the U.S. and continue his feud with the Muslims and we lose an embassy.

yeah radical islam has nothing to do with it at all. nobody has even heard of this shitty D list film until the attacks happen.

Blame Hollywood