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Nah...still here.

RE: op, it's very similar over here. My girlfriend studied politics at school, can you guess which political belief they forced down the pupil's throats? Socialism.

I personally haven't noticed too much of a leftist slant at my school. It might just be because I'm largely taking business courses though. I did have a public health teacher last semester who was very far-left, but that's about it.

FEOS wrote:

Shahter wrote:

FEOS wrote:

How about you tell us all how socialism isn't abusive to the human condition, in comparison?

remind me, when exactly did i say anything like that?

I didn't say you did, did I? I just asked you to explain to us all how that is the case, since obviously capitalism is sooo evil.

i don't get it, what "that" was the case again? i only said that capitalism doesn't leverage anything - it doesn't even recognize the imperfections in humanity we were talking about as such. when did socialism enter this again?

Last edited by Shahter (2011-04-17 22:33:50)

Shahter wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Shahter wrote:

remind me, when exactly did i say anything like that?

I didn't say you did, did I? I just asked you to explain to us all how that is the case, since obviously capitalism is sooo evil.

i don't get it, what "that" was the case again? i only said that capitalism doesn't leverage anything - it doesn't even recognize the imperfections in humanity we were talking about as such. when did socialism enter this again?

Well then. You're simply wrong. Capitalism recognizes and leverages the human weakness of greed. Socialism ignores it, and that's why purely socialistic systems fail.

Shahter wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Shahter wrote:

i don't get it, what "that" was the case again? i only said that capitalism doesn't leverage anything - it doesn't even recognize the imperfections in humanity we were talking about as such. when did socialism enter this again?

Well then. You're simply wrong. Capitalism recognizes and leverages the human weakness of greed. Socialism ignores it, and that's why purely socialistic systems fail.

wat

The whole "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" idea is sound in theory, but not in practice because humans are greedy. People will not work at full capacity if they can get the same pay when working at 80%. They need an incentive to work harder, e.g. higher wages.

I don't think school so much has a slant inherently, I think it's just impossible for someone to write an analysis without allowing a bit of his or her bias in. The best thing would probably be to teach kids to think critically, even about things they're taught in school, instead of discouraging that behavior.

Homeschool was actually fine with me during Elementary. Just when I was 12 I started not doing school as much and that habit has stuck with me. Not to mention the subjects are too complex for my parents to help me.

Homeschool overall works, if your parents know what they are doing.

Last edited by War Man (2011-04-18 21:27:48)

I don't think homeschooling works at all. Highschool is fine.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

kids know what they're doing

no

Jay wrote:

The problem is they will then be socially awkward for the foreseeable future.

Exactly. Teaching kids outside of school shouldn't be a problem though, given your kid is curious and wants to learn - you can give them a major headstart as well by simply paying attention to them during kindergarten.

Jay wrote:

Creating what the world will perceive as a genius isn't all that difficult. The problem is that they will then never fit in outside of a very small circle.

Well, someone thought so before and actually did it with his son, I believe the kid was severely depressed for the rest of his life though - don't remember who it was, some philosopher I reckon. But I'm not sure about that - can you teach ingenuity & originality? As I feel those are the best qualities people can have. Some kids really do learn quicker than others, too.

Jay wrote:

Also, your perception of what home schooling can do for a child is skewed by the types of people that choose to home school. The vast majority of them do it simply because they want to create their clone.

Well yes but I believe having many different teachers is important as you'll have many different opinions on your work. Not to mention that you can't do group assignments when you're homeschooled, you're missing out on some vital social interaction.

I've had a pretty balanced education idealist-wise, I think.

In Economics at High School we weren't "spoon-fed" socialism, we were expected to be able to make a case for both sides. In Religion we were always given excerpts from Islamic texts and articles written by Muslims to analyse, not just white people talking about the Middle East.

I hope that's how it works in most western countries..

And at university it's very rare that I have the same lecturer two days in a row, so you kind of automatically get a diverse view. But at that stage you're expected to think for yourself anyway.

Last edited by Jenspm (2011-04-19 09:59:31)

Umm, it most certainly has to do with economics.

Not really. It effects how a system is run it does not change the theory.

GDP is still calculated the same, unemployment still uses the same principals, free markets and protection are just free markets and protection. CA and exchange rates are all calculated the same. When you bring in political views of capitalism and socialism you are just trying to quantify the theory.