Three wars. Huge debt. High unemployment.
Anti-Abortion laws will fix all of this.
Anti-Abortion laws will fix all of this.
irrelevant to the OP. troll some more.
Oh I'm sorry did I raise a valid question there?
/thread.Shocking wrote:
War Man wrote:
Yes, not the child's fault his dad was/is a sick fuck.Where's the woman in this equation? Forcing a baby unto someone who doesn't want it is a perfect start to creating a sick and twisted human being. Worse is forcing one on someone who got raped, many rape victims being <20 years old, it will destroy their entire future. I really don't see that as being 'compassionate', not to mention that you're raising the baby of your rapist, I can't even begin to imagine how that must feel.War Man wrote:
Yes, I would. It is the Christian way to show some compassion
Abortion to me is a simple issue: it's none of my business to decide over other people's lives in such a way. It's not in the best interest of the kid to be born in a situation where he/she is unwanted, nor do I feel it's good for the mother - so who exactly would you be doing a favor? God? Being prolife would be appeasing to dickish self-righteousness, and I want none of that.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
yesAussieReaper wrote:
Oh I'm sorry did I raise a valid question there?
plenty of threads in this forum that have nothing to do with "3 wars, huge debt and high unemployment", and you have posted in just about all of them.
I think the point is, you have made no point.
Republicans campaigned on job growth. What have they done with congress? Go after abortion clinics and public radio?lowing wrote:
yesAussieReaper wrote:
Oh I'm sorry did I raise a valid question there?
plenty of threads in this forum that have nothing to do with "3 wars, huge debt and high unemployment", and you have posted in just about all of them.
I think the point is, you have made no point.
Where is the job creation bills?
Republicans have done after Abortion Rights. Defunding Planned Parenthood. Defunding NPR. Investigating American Muslims. Declaring English As America's Official Language. Reaffirming The "In God We Trust" Motto.
Jobs?
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this and basically he is either trolling or posting some recycled 4chan meme piclowing wrote:
yesAussieReaper wrote:
Oh I'm sorry did I raise a valid question there?
plenty of threads in this forum that have nothing to do with "3 wars, huge debt and high unemployment", and you have posted in just about all of them.
I think the point is, you have made no point.
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They're working on them. But $61B in spending cuts are "draconian".AussieReaper wrote:
Republicans campaigned on job growth. What have they done with congress? Go after abortion clinics and public radio?lowing wrote:
yesAussieReaper wrote:
Oh I'm sorry did I raise a valid question there?
plenty of threads in this forum that have nothing to do with "3 wars, huge debt and high unemployment", and you have posted in just about all of them.
I think the point is, you have made no point.
Where is the job creation bills?
They're big kids. They can multi-task. Even though I'm not in agreement that this specific legislation is what they should be spending their time on, your point is sort of irrelevant.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Granted, but the economy should be the focus.FEOS wrote:
They're working on them. But $61B in spending cuts are "draconian".AussieReaper wrote:
Republicans campaigned on job growth. What have they done with congress? Go after abortion clinics and public radio?lowing wrote:
yes
plenty of threads in this forum that have nothing to do with "3 wars, huge debt and high unemployment", and you have posted in just about all of them.
I think the point is, you have made no point.
Where is the job creation bills?
They're big kids. They can multi-task. Even though I'm not in agreement that this specific legislation is what they should be spending their time on, your point is sort of irrelevant.
Defunding Planned Parenthood. Defunding NPR. Investigating American Muslims. Declaring English As America's Official Language. Reaffirming The "In God We Trust" Motto.
I'd like to see some strength from the Repubs on the economy. Raise taxes and slash spending. Why go after womens rights and public radio?
And if they are multi-tasking, why hasn't there been as much focus on the job creation?
There has, AR. Their attempts at cutting spending have been stymied in the Senate, which run by the Democrats...hence the "draconian cuts" comment.AussieReaper wrote:
Granted, but the economy should be the focus.FEOS wrote:
They're working on them. But $61B in spending cuts are "draconian".AussieReaper wrote:
Republicans campaigned on job growth. What have they done with congress? Go after abortion clinics and public radio?
Where is the job creation bills?
They're big kids. They can multi-task. Even though I'm not in agreement that this specific legislation is what they should be spending their time on, your point is sort of irrelevant.
Defunding Planned Parenthood. Defunding NPR. Investigating American Muslims. Declaring English As America's Official Language. Reaffirming The "In God We Trust" Motto.
I'd like to see some strength from the Repubs on the economy. Raise taxes and slash spending. Why go after womens rights and public radio?
And if they are multi-tasking, why hasn't there been as much focus on the job creation?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Raised taxes? Anything that is job creation?FEOS wrote:
There has, AR. Their attempts at cutting spending have been stymied in the Senate, which run by the Democrats...hence the "draconian cuts" comment.AussieReaper wrote:
Granted, but the economy should be the focus.FEOS wrote:
They're working on them. But $61B in spending cuts are "draconian".
They're big kids. They can multi-task. Even though I'm not in agreement that this specific legislation is what they should be spending their time on, your point is sort of irrelevant.
Defunding Planned Parenthood. Defunding NPR. Investigating American Muslims. Declaring English As America's Official Language. Reaffirming The "In God We Trust" Motto.
I'd like to see some strength from the Repubs on the economy. Raise taxes and slash spending. Why go after womens rights and public radio?
And if they are multi-tasking, why hasn't there been as much focus on the job creation?
Going after abortion in light of the ecnomic situation doesn't make sense imo. They can score plenty of points with the public if they introduced bills to that effect only to have the senate stone wall.
yes, tax cuts. Let corporations keep their money instead of taking it for re-distrubtion, and they will invest it in company growth. Kinda how it works.AussieReaper wrote:
Raised taxes? Anything that is job creation?FEOS wrote:
There has, AR. Their attempts at cutting spending have been stymied in the Senate, which run by the Democrats...hence the "draconian cuts" comment.AussieReaper wrote:
Granted, but the economy should be the focus.
Defunding Planned Parenthood. Defunding NPR. Investigating American Muslims. Declaring English As America's Official Language. Reaffirming The "In God We Trust" Motto.
I'd like to see some strength from the Repubs on the economy. Raise taxes and slash spending. Why go after womens rights and public radio?
And if they are multi-tasking, why hasn't there been as much focus on the job creation?
Going after abortion in light of the ecnomic situation doesn't make sense imo. They can score plenty of points with the public if they introduced bills to that effect only to have the senate stone wall.
LOL OK.lowing wrote:
they will invest it in company growth
Fuck Israel
well gee dilbert, how do you think companies grow? Or do you think the elves build them?Dilbert_X wrote:
LOL OK.lowing wrote:
they will invest it in company growth
Don't pay too much attention to him. He's a naive young kid who just echo's his parents beliefs without any original thought of his own.lowing wrote:
wow, didn't really expect that. So you can honestly say if your wife were raped and became pregnant from the rapist you would have her keep the baby and raise it as your own? Or if you were told your baby was going to be born deformed or mentally incapacitated, you would still keep him or her? These are standards you would keep for yourself as well?War Man wrote:
Yes, not the child's fault his dad was/is a sick fuck.
The simple truth of the matter regarding abortion is that wealthy people can get them regardless of the laws present. All they have to do is fly to Mexico or Canada.
So really, these laws are less about restricting abortion in general and more about just making sure poor people don't have them.
So really, these laws are less about restricting abortion in general and more about just making sure poor people don't have them.
life starts at the scrotum
Tu Stultus Es
People who really dont want the child will do ANYTHING not to have it, so why ban the "good" way to get rid of the baby, I'd rather pay a little more to make sure that abortion are well made rather than homemade (Coat hanger) style.
I cant really find the words to say exactly what i have in mind so...
Legal Abortion = Safe
Homemade abort = Danger
Gedit?
I cant really find the words to say exactly what i have in mind so...
Legal Abortion = Safe
Homemade abort = Danger
Gedit?
yes. and you're a sick person if you would have an abortion because your child was going to have a disability.lowing wrote:
wow, didn't really expect that. So you can honestly say if your wife were raped and became pregnant from the rapist you would have her keep the baby and raise it as your own? Or if you were told your baby was going to be born deformed or mentally incapacitated, you would still keep him or her? These are standards you would keep for yourself as well?War Man wrote:
Yes, not the child's fault his dad was/is a sick fuck.
age and status please. father, single, married etc....HaiBai wrote:
yes. and you're a sick person if you would have an abortion because your child was going to have a disability.lowing wrote:
wow, didn't really expect that. So you can honestly say if your wife were raped and became pregnant from the rapist you would have her keep the baby and raise it as your own? Or if you were told your baby was going to be born deformed or mentally incapacitated, you would still keep him or her? These are standards you would keep for yourself as well?War Man wrote:
Yes, not the child's fault his dad was/is a sick fuck.
depends on the disability.HaiBai wrote:
yes. and you're a sick person if you would have an abortion because your child was going to have a disability.lowing wrote:
wow, didn't really expect that. So you can honestly say if your wife were raped and became pregnant from the rapist you would have her keep the baby and raise it as your own? Or if you were told your baby was going to be born deformed or mentally incapacitated, you would still keep him or her? These are standards you would keep for yourself as well?War Man wrote:
Yes, not the child's fault his dad was/is a sick fuck.
Edit: also Roger has a good point.
I think some people take abortions to far though, limiting in some way the number of abortions people were allowed to have would be something to consider. Baring of course medical reasons or things like rape pregnancies.
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no it doesn't. you're a selfish asshole if you feel like your child isn't worthy of a life just because of a disability. what if he had some complications after he was born? for example, he had trouble breathing and was brain damaged after that? now what do you do? "accidentally" kill him for his own good because you don't want him to suffer for the rest of his life?
And what if he had some kind of disability where he would be a mute vegetable for his entire life, and you are not the gazillionire it would take to raise a child like that. The child is sentanced to a lifetime of pain and misery just to suit your moral high ground? There are more severe things that could go wrong than a slight mental disability or a extra finger.HaiBai wrote:
no it doesn't. you're a selfish asshole if you feel like your child isn't worthy of a life just because of a disability. what if he had some complications after he was born? for example, he had trouble breathing and was brain damaged after that? now what do you do? "accidentally" kill him for his own good because you don't want him to suffer for the rest of his life?
He's 16.lowing wrote:
age and status please. father, single, married etc....HaiBai wrote:
yes. and you're a sick person if you would have an abortion because your child was going to have a disability.lowing wrote:
wow, didn't really expect that. So you can honestly say if your wife were raped and became pregnant from the rapist you would have her keep the baby and raise it as your own? Or if you were told your baby was going to be born deformed or mentally incapacitated, you would still keep him or her? These are standards you would keep for yourself as well?
Nic wrote:
And what if he had some kind of disability where he would be a mute vegetable for his entire life, and you are not the gazillionire it would take to raise a child like that. The child is sentanced to a lifetime of pain and misery just to suit your moral high ground? There are more severe things that could go wrong than a slight mental disability or a extra finger.HaiBai wrote:
no it doesn't. you're a selfish asshole if you feel like your child isn't worthy of a life just because of a disability. what if he had some complications after he was born? for example, he had trouble breathing and was brain damaged after that? now what do you do? "accidentally" kill him for his own good because you don't want him to suffer for the rest of his life?
Pope John Paul II wrote:
The sick person in a 'vegetative state', awaiting recovery or a natural end, still has the right to basic health care (nutrition, hydration, cleanliness, warmth, etc.), and to the prevention of complications related to his confinement to bed. He also has the right to appropriate rehabilitative care and to be monitored for clinical signs of eventual recovery.