Until a god can be scientifically ruled out, there is most likely still going to be religion around, and even then there would still be hangers-on for awhile.
And on that subject, this was depressing to read;Shocking wrote:
Religious books are great historical records though, I've been doing a lot of reading on Mesopotamian civilisations lately and the Bible makes a lot of references to stuff that happened and existed 8-6000 years ago. All the city states back then had their own gods, our dear Yahweh simply came out on top because all the other cultures in the area got exterminated. Knowing about it makes it all the more strange that people follow the strife in between different cities that existed nearly 10.000 years ago as if there were any higher purpose to it.
US forces under the command of General James T. Conway of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force were criticized for building the military base "Camp Alpha", comprising among other facilities a helipad, on ancient Babylonian ruins following the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
US Marines in front of the rebuilt ruins of Babylon, 2003.
US forces have occupied the site for some time and have caused irreparable damage to the archaeological record. In a report of the British Museum's Near East department, Dr. John Curtis describes how parts of the archaeological site were levelled to create a landing area for helicopters, and parking lots for heavy vehicles. Curtis wrote that the occupation forces
"caused substantial damage to the Ishtar Gate, one of the most famous monuments from antiquity [...] US military vehicles crushed 2,600-year-old brick pavements, archaeological fragments were scattered across the site, more than 12 trenches were driven into ancient deposits and military earth-moving projects contaminated the site for future generations of scientists [...] Add to all that the damage caused to nine of the moulded brick figures of dragons in the Ishtar Gate by soldiers trying to remove the bricks from the wall."
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That was considerate of them.
Not to mention that this;
Has been riddled with bullets and damaged by bombs through the wars. Thankfully that thing is a bit too large and sturdy to bulldoze over.
While I'm a proponent for both wars I find it strange how we could justify trying to protect our culture yet trample all over its very origins in the process, you'd think they would try to preserve our history a little better than that.
Has been riddled with bullets and damaged by bombs through the wars. Thankfully that thing is a bit too large and sturdy to bulldoze over.
While I'm a proponent for both wars I find it strange how we could justify trying to protect our culture yet trample all over its very origins in the process, you'd think they would try to preserve our history a little better than that.
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They're marines. Why would you expect better from jarheads?Shocking wrote:
Not to mention that this;
http://kbagdanov.files.wordpress.com/20 … umer-5.jpg
Has been riddled with bullets and damaged by bombs through the wars. Thankfully that thing is a bit too large and sturdy to bulldoze over.
While I'm a proponent for both wars I find it strange how we could justify trying to protect our culture yet trample all over its very origins in the process, you'd think they would try to preserve our history a little better than that.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Based on the only marine I know, I'd expect them to make a derogatory remark about my sexuality, and then go fly a commercial airliner whilst drunk.Jay wrote:
They're marines. Why would you expect better from jarheads?Shocking wrote:
Not to mention that this;
http://kbagdanov.files.wordpress.com/20 … umer-5.jpg
Has been riddled with bullets and damaged by bombs through the wars. Thankfully that thing is a bit too large and sturdy to bulldoze over.
While I'm a proponent for both wars I find it strange how we could justify trying to protect our culture yet trample all over its very origins in the process, you'd think they would try to preserve our history a little better than that.
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You don't even have to be cultured to recognize that that gigantic thing is not some Saddam playground, at the very least an OC should recognize historical sites when they're staring him in the face.Jay wrote:
They're marines. Why would you expect better from jarheads?
It would be like rolling over Pompei with a tank
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Or launching AT4s at mount rushmore because you see hajji standing on top of Washington's face
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Shocking wrote:
You don't even have to be cultured to recognize that that gigantic thing is not some Saddam playground, at the very least an OC should recognize historical sites when they're staring him in the face.Jay wrote:
They're marines. Why would you expect better from jarheads?
It would be like rolling over Pompei with a tank
They're marines. Why would you expect better from jarheads?Shocking wrote:
Or launching AT4s at mount rushmore because you see hajji standing on top of Washington's face
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Fuck yeah!Shocking wrote:
Or launching AT4s at mount rushmore because you see hajji standing on top of Washington's face
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That's the problem though: You can neither scientifically prove nor disprove a God.Nic wrote:
Until a god can be scientifically ruled out, there is most likely still going to be religion around, and even then there would still be hangers-on for awhile.
Wikipedia wrote:
"Science is an enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the world."
"To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning."
This is known to me at this time. However you cannot say what the future holds, just what it is most likely to hold. Pretty sure that it won't be proved or disproved anytime soon.globefish23 wrote:
That's the problem though: You can neither scientifically prove nor disprove a God.Nic wrote:
Until a god can be scientifically ruled out, there is most likely still going to be religion around, and even then there would still be hangers-on for awhile.Wikipedia wrote:
"Science is an enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the world."
"To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning."
canadas growth rate would be negative if it wasnt for immigration, and even then isnt that highKEN-JENNINGS wrote:
all those places listed in the OP have large populations and huge population growth rates. Much moreso than places like Africa and Latin America...
As long as there are major questions without definitive answers (meaning of life? how did it all begin? why am i here?), there will be charlatans preaching that they have the answer, that their mythical fairy-tale father-figure-in-the-sky has all the answers...
If you just Believe (And make a tax-deductible donation. Visa & MasterCard accepted. Sorry, no CODs)
If you just Believe (And make a tax-deductible donation. Visa & MasterCard accepted. Sorry, no CODs)
rdx-fx wrote:
As long as there are major questions without definitive answers (meaning of life? how did it all begin? why am i here?), there will be charlatans preaching that they have the answer, that their mythical fairy-tale father-figure-in-the-sky has all the answers...
If you just Believe (And make a tax-deductible donation. Visa & MasterCard accepted. Sorry, no CODs)
Neighbors, no one loves you like he loves you,
And no one cares like he cares.
Neighbors, let us join today in the holy love of God and money,
Because neighbors, no one loves you like He loves you.
And what better way to show your love than to dig deep into your pockets.
Dig real deep, until it hurts. Alleviate your guilt,
Free yourself once again, because he gave to you, brothers and sisters.
Please give a 10, 25, or 50 dollar tax-deductible donation,
And I assure you your modest pledge will be used to censor TV and radio,
Ban questionable books, and contribute to many other Godly services.
No longer will young Christian Americans hedonistically indulge
In masochistic submission to rhythmic music, for with your monetary support,
There is no end to what we can achieve in this country.
The voice of God is government. The voice of God is government.
The voice of God is government. In God we trust, sinners repent!
(1,2,3,4)
Can't you see what we believe in, all our thoughts, all our reasons,
Pursuit of life and liberty and happiness we cannot see?
Speak of truth with a mighty voice, but politics are your real choice.
Hire men to change the law, protect and serve with one small flaw.
Voice of God is government. The voice of God is government.
Voice of God is government. In God we trust, sinners repent!
If we shun God and Jesus Christ, religious love is sacrifice.
Love for God is shown in cash, the love they send is mailbox trash.
With every pamphlet we receive, more money asked for Godly needs.
Build a million dollar church, with money spent on God's research.
Voice of God is government. The voice of God is government.
Voice of God is government. In God we trust, sinners repent!
On late night TV, God can heal, a certain force you cannot feel.
Love for money in God's name, religion's now a TV game!
Build a million dollar church, with money spent on God's research.
Build a million dollar church, with money spent on God's research.
Voice of God is government. The voice of God is government.
Voice of God is government. In God we trust, sinners repent!
Yeah!
Voice of God is government. The voice of God is government.
Voice of God is government. In God we trust, sinners repent!
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. - C.S. Lewis
good. about fucking time. thank fuck people are starting to wake up.
enablerstuckergustav wrote:
"moderately religious"
go to 3:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jETVUulGwc
Hmmm, looks like Jesus needs to come back again.
Edit: *Prepares his flame helmet for battle.*
Not always.-Sh1fty- wrote:
I would think that in the event of some massive catastrophe people would turn to religion.
Edit: *Prepares his flame helmet for battle.*
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The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
yeah that was sarcasm. religion flourishes in africa and latin america, both with large pops and growth rates.Winston_Churchill wrote:
canadas growth rate would be negative if it wasnt for immigration, and even then isnt that highKEN-JENNINGS wrote:
all those places listed in the OP have large populations and huge population growth rates. Much moreso than places like Africa and Latin America...
Atheism is the fastest growing belief system in the United States.
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Jay wrote:
They're marines. Why would you expect better from jarheads?
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Kmar wrote:
Atheism is the fastest growing belief system in the United States.
ask penn and teller
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