cough told you coughShocking wrote:
Just now on the TV behind me;
"Arab states criticize western military action, states it wanted protection of civillians, not bombing"
Is this like a giant 'stab-you-in-the-back' campaign?
C2 and air defenses endanger those executing the NFZ. It has been done in every NFZ operation executed. To not do it would be abysmally stupid.Dilbert_X wrote:
And I predicted it would happen before the NFZ was announced.FEOS wrote:
C2 and air defenses have to be taken down to ensure the NFZ doesn't get mucked with.
People have been saying that since the NFZ has started to be discussed, Dilbert.
Announcing a NFZ doesn't give the right to flatten everything on the ground which emits a radio signal.
Its a no-fly zone, not a no-radar zone.
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and lobbing missiles all over the country endanger the civilians they are supposedly there to protect.FEOS wrote:
C2 and air defenses endanger those executing the NFZ.
Arguments have been made by others that Daffy might use them against the rebels to protect his regime. I fully realize it becomes somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophesy.11 Bravo wrote:
well golly they are so dangerous why did we wait until now? or better yet why are we pissing him off into using them?
you know full well those missiles aren't just being randomly thrown over Libya with no thought to collateral damage.11 Bravo wrote:
and lobbing missiles all over the country endanger the civilians they are supposedly there to protect.
fuck the arabsShocking wrote:
But yeah now arab states leaders are accusing us of killing civs, great.
He's home-schooled.FatherTed wrote:
do you have any actual opinions of your own?-Sh1fty- wrote:
UN shouldn't exist.
I wonder if Syria's "wobble" is related to this?Shocking wrote:
I'm getting this all from BBC btw, not sure if they updated the site yet. Just now they stated;
"Syria agreed with imposing a no fly zone but disagreed with military action"... lol, they're calling it a 'little wobble' in the arab states.
Reuters
updated 1 hour 11 minutes ago
DAMASCUS — Thousands of Syrians demanded an end to 48 years of emergency law on Sunday, a third straight day of protests emerging as the biggest challenge to Syria's rulers since unrest swept the Arab world this year.
Actually, pretty predictable, tbh. If a Westerner farts, they claim civilian deaths because they know it will play in the media...when they don't give two shits about civilian deaths themselves.Shocking wrote:
No doubt, but the secretary general of the arab states himself is accusing us of bombing civillians, pretty unbelievable.
Why are you surprised? Create a common enemy, stir up hatred, profit. Hatred for the west is most of what keeps Arab despots in control.Shocking wrote:
No doubt, but the secretary general of the arab states himself is accusing us of bombing civillians, pretty unbelievable.
Not exactly surprised, more confused.Jay wrote:
Why are you surprised? Create a common enemy, stir up hatred, profit. Hatred for the west is most of what keeps Arab despots in control.
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If we'd stayed out they would've called us heartless assholes. They would find a way to criticize us if we terraformed their deserts into gardens. Dunno why you expect otherwise.Shocking wrote:
Predictable I guess - but considering an important reason for the intervention probably was to improve relations with the ME (and I assume the ME would want to improve their relations with us as well), I wonder what makes them feel it's a good idea to make a 180 degrees turn in stance.
I suppose it's probably in style to blame the west for everything around those parts of the world, regardless of it being justified action or not.
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You're talking about politics. Rationality doesn't come into play. If Obama was seen eating a carrot, fox news would write an article comparing him to bugs bunny and about the health risk of carrots.Shocking wrote:
Guess a little rationality is too much to ask?
Some of those states just had revolutions themselves
lol or blaming the weather on Bush?Jay wrote:
You're talking about politics. Rationality doesn't come into play. If Obama was seen eating a carrot, fox news would write an article comparing him to bugs bunny and about the health risk of carrots.Shocking wrote:
Guess a little rationality is too much to ask?
Some of those states just had revolutions themselves
Same shit.lowing wrote:
lol or blaming the weather on Bush?Jay wrote:
You're talking about politics. Rationality doesn't come into play. If Obama was seen eating a carrot, fox news would write an article comparing him to bugs bunny and about the health risk of carrots.Shocking wrote:
Guess a little rationality is too much to ask?
Some of those states just had revolutions themselves
According to one eyewitness the Libyans are taking civvie casualties from past fights (before the NFZ) and placing them around targets they think will be bombed.Shocking wrote:
No doubt, but the secretary general of the arab states himself is accusing us of bombing civillians, pretty unbelievable.