Political thought

2011-02-24 08:24:37

#26

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6745

DBBrinson1 wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
I'm probably the only one that finds this amusing but the past few days have been rather eye opening. Regardless of the country of origin of the opinion holder, there seems to be global political camps. I always thought that liberals were open minded and not dogmatic because, well, it's what they tell everyone who will listen. What I've seen here (and other places) is that they really are no different from the conservatives they despise. They all seem to have the same opinions, they all seem to have read the same books, they all seem to watch the same news commentators. I always viewed conservatives as mindless sheep just following the herd but I've discovered that both sides are equally guilty. It's interesting.

What sparked this? Arguing in the Israel thread I was attacked by people from multiple countries all using the same basic arguments with little variation. That doesn't happen in any discussion outside of politics. It was kind of trippy actually. And boring.

Why do supposedly intelligent people fall so easily under the sway of and argue in favor of the dogma of others? Just to be contrarian? You're not being very contrary if there are so many of you with the same exact opinions now are you? It's like when alternative music became mainstream. They kept calling it alternative because that's what they'd always called it. Guess the same can be said for liberals and progressives. The names are meaningless. There's no real thought there.

What's my point? Thinking outside of the box should be everyones goal and I just don't see it from the self described 'enlightened'.

Edit - and no, weight of numbers does not make an argument correct. It doesn't matter how many people hold an opinion, it doesn't necessarily make it correct.

"Sometimes the smallest softest voice carries the grand biggest solutions!"
I think Kman raised the point where others seek out info that bolsters their opinions and ignore the rest. Same applies for circles of friends and such. This is the answer...

i used to raise that point all the time with lowing's surfing behaviour and particularly his selection of sources and 'information'.

i called it 'virtual balkanization'.

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2011-02-24 08:29:12

#27

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6745

JohnG@lt wrote:
m3thod wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
The best part? I didn't even have uzique in mind when I wrote the OP. He of course thought it was about him.
Hard to belive when you state "You pretty much embody everything I was talking about in the OP".
Yeah, that was just a side effect. I was actually aiming the thread at Dilbert, oug and AussieReaper.

lol

funny that 2 individual people - neither of whom were those listed - linked this to me on steam and found it funny.

'target audience'.

btw can we see your fiancée? seeing as now you're not only the intellectual emersonian scholar but also the mack daddy extraordinaire

willing to bet she's just as big as you and twice as hairy

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2011-02-24 08:29:25

#28

13rin: Member; +977|6753

JohnG@lt wrote:
DBBrinson1 wrote:
I think Kman raised the point where others seek out info that bolsters their opinions and ignore the rest. Same applies for circles of friends and such. This is the answer...
Interesting read.

Ya... Majored in Social Sciences (.ie beer drinkin')

Uzique wrote:
i used to raise that point all the time with lowing's surfing behaviour and particularly his selection of sources and 'information'.

i called it 'virtual balkanization'.

Ha! ya... I think to some extent we all do it. "Birds of a feather"...

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-02-24 08:29:36

#29

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5632|London, England

Uzique wrote:
DBBrinson1 wrote:
I think Kman raised the point where others seek out info that bolsters their opinions and ignore the rest. Same applies for circles of friends and such. This is the answer...
i used to raise that point all the time with lowing's surfing behaviour and particularly his selection of sources and 'information'.

i called it 'virtual balkanization'.

And the point of this thread is to raise awareness that both sides act almost identically and to ask people that label themselves be open-minded to take a step back and look at their sources and their own built in prejudices.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-02-24 08:31:22

#30

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6745

JohnG@lt wrote:
Uzique wrote:
DBBrinson1 wrote:
I think Kman raised the point where others seek out info that bolsters their opinions and ignore the rest. Same applies for circles of friends and such. This is the answer...
i used to raise that point all the time with lowing's surfing behaviour and particularly his selection of sources and 'information'.

i called it 'virtual balkanization'.
And the point of this thread is to raise awareness that both sides act almost identically and to ask people that label themselves be open-minded to take a step back and look at their sources and their own built in prejudices.

no the point of this thread is to mislabel others after the colossal shitfuck that was the history/theory lesson you received in the israel-palestine thread. some high-minded, contemplative bullshit about people being sheep and a lack of intellectual innovation doesn't hide the fact that the real cause of the drama in the israel-palestine thread was you continually and unquittingly talking shit about a) history you don't understand and b) books/authors you haven't even read. it has a lot less to do with 'virtual balkanisation' and a lot more to do with 'galt thinking he knows what he's talking about, universally, as per usual'.

_{libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual}. _{http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/}

2011-02-24 08:32:58

#31

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5632|London, England

Uzique wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Uzique wrote:

i used to raise that point all the time with lowing's surfing behaviour and particularly his selection of sources and 'information'.

i called it 'virtual balkanization'.
And the point of this thread is to raise awareness that both sides act almost identically and to ask people that label themselves be open-minded to take a step back and look at their sources and their own built in prejudices.
no the point of this thread is to mislabel others after the colossal shitfuck that was the history/theory lesson you received in the israel-palestine thread. some high-minded, contemplative bullshit about people being sheep and a lack of intellectual innovation doesn't hide the fact that the real cause of the drama in the israel-palestine thread was you continually and unquittingly talking shit about a) history you don't understand and b) books/authors you haven't even read. it has a lot less to do with 'virtual balkanisation' and a lot more to do with 'galt thinking he knows what he's talking about, universally, as per usual'.

No, that was your take on the thread. That was the piece you were involved in. The world does not revolve around you Uzique and D&ST discussions certainly don't. Fuck off already.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-02-24 08:33:21

#32

13rin: Member; +977|6753

JohnG@lt wrote:
And the point of this thread is to raise awareness that both sides act almost identically and to ask people that label themselves be open-minded to take a step back and look at their sources and their own built in prejudices.

I'm open to new ideas and philos, but I'm pretty fucking biased (toward certain beliefs) and skeptical (to most information out there) -and I'm OK with that.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-02-24 08:35:13

#33

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6745

JohnG@lt wrote:
Uzique wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:

And the point of this thread is to raise awareness that both sides act almost identically and to ask people that label themselves be open-minded to take a step back and look at their sources and their own built in prejudices.
no the point of this thread is to mislabel others after the colossal shitfuck that was the history/theory lesson you received in the israel-palestine thread. some high-minded, contemplative bullshit about people being sheep and a lack of intellectual innovation doesn't hide the fact that the real cause of the drama in the israel-palestine thread was you continually and unquittingly talking shit about a) history you don't understand and b) books/authors you haven't even read. it has a lot less to do with 'virtual balkanisation' and a lot more to do with 'galt thinking he knows what he's talking about, universally, as per usual'.
No, that was your take on the thread. That was the piece you were involved in. The world does not revolve around you Uzique and D&ST discussions certainly don't. Fuck off already.

why is it about me again? me and 2 others immediately interpreted this thread as that. i can bet most others that were involved in the israel-palestine thread will immediately see this as some form of follow-up or reaction to your bullshit bluffing act. so what is it? me being self-centred or you just happening to have a completely coincidental thought about people being sheep, utterly disconnected from that thread? hmmm.

still waiting for the fiancee pics btw, mr. pageant judge.

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2011-02-24 08:36:42

#34

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5632|London, England

DBBrinson1 wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
And the point of this thread is to raise awareness that both sides act almost identically and to ask people that label themselves be open-minded to take a step back and look at their sources and their own built in prejudices.
I'm open to new ideas and philos, but I'm pretty fucking biased (toward certain beliefs) and skeptical (to most information out there) -and I'm OK with that.

But you recognize that. That's fine. I'm the same way. There's a few topics that I will always be biased on just based on my own life experiences. I try to be open-minded about most things though.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-02-24 08:38:20

#35

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7049|Moscow, Russia

go zeek!

:popcorn:

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2011-02-24 08:39:27

#36

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5632|London, England

Uzique wrote:
why is it about me again? me and 2 others immediately interpreted this thread as that. i can bet most others that were involved in the israel-palestine thread will immediately see this as some form of follow-up or reaction to your bullshit bluffing act. so what is it? me being self-centred or you just happening to have a completely coincidental thought about people being sheep, utterly disconnected from that thread? hmmm.

still waiting for the fiancee pics btw, mr. pageant judge.

Because, like every other topic on this forum, you're trying to make it about you. Your narcissism would put Narcissus to shame.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-02-24 08:40:49

#37

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5511|Cleveland, Ohio

Shahter wrote:
go zeek!

:popcorn:

go chechnya!

2011-02-24 08:42:10

#38

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5511|Cleveland, Ohio

JohnG@lt wrote:
11 Bravo wrote:
you wont be on the internet? lol right. its like 15 degrees outside..i aint going downtown today like i would when its warm. gonna go work out, watch the shuttle launch, then play some games. oh and troll you. then fuck my girl. then go poop and go to bed,

thats an ok day in my book tbh.
Sounds pretty satisfying to me

well she works until 10pm so i have to make her dinner but i dont mind that. she has off tomorrow so we might just go catch a flick and wonder around the mall of america. if thats acceptable to uzique.

2011-02-24 08:43:18

#39

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7049|Moscow, Russia

JohnG@lt wrote:
Because, like every other topic on this forum, you're trying to make it about you. Your narcissism would put Narcissus to shame.

power irony overwhelming.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2011-02-24 08:48:44

#40

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|7006|St. Andrews / Oslo

11 Bravo wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
11 Bravo wrote:
you wont be on the internet? lol right. its like 15 degrees outside..i aint going downtown today like i would when its warm. gonna go work out, watch the shuttle launch, then play some games. oh and troll you. then fuck my girl. then go poop and go to bed,

thats an ok day in my book tbh.
Sounds pretty satisfying to me
well she works until 10pm so i have to make her dinner but i dont mind that. she has off tomorrow so we might just go catch a flick and wonder around the mall of america. if thats acceptable to uzique.

What are you doing on Saturday?

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/26774/flickricon.png

2011-02-24 08:49:46

#41

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5511|Cleveland, Ohio

Jenspm wrote:
11 Bravo wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:

Sounds pretty satisfying to me
well she works until 10pm so i have to make her dinner but i dont mind that. she has off tomorrow so we might just go catch a flick and wonder around the mall of america. if thats acceptable to uzique.
What are you doing on Saturday?

high of 12 degrees on saturday so i dunno yet. hopefully nothing.

2011-02-24 08:50:42

#42

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|7006|St. Andrews / Oslo

11 Bravo wrote:
Jenspm wrote:
11 Bravo wrote:

well she works until 10pm so i have to make her dinner but i dont mind that. she has off tomorrow so we might just go catch a flick and wonder around the mall of america. if thats acceptable to uzique.
What are you doing on Saturday?
high of 12 degrees on saturday so i dunno yet. hopefully nothing.

Ahh, okay. Keep me updated.

2011-02-24 08:51:15

#43

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5511|Cleveland, Ohio

always

2011-02-24 08:52:09

#44

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5511|Cleveland, Ohio

right well off to the gym and then getting a birthday card for my mum

tah!

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2011-02-24 08:52:53

#45

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5511|Cleveland, Ohio

mega bummer?

totally

2011-02-24 08:53:10

#46

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|6945|UK

go shahter!

:popcorn:

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2011-02-24 08:54:46

#47

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7049|Moscow, Russia

11 Bravo wrote:
mega bummer?

totally

seeing reason, sweetie? jezus, i can't fucking beleave it!

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2011-02-24 08:57:56

#48

13rin: Member; +977|6753

go 11!

:takes m3ths popcorn:

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-02-24 09:21:35

#49

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6745

JohnG@lt wrote:
Uzique wrote:
why is it about me again? me and 2 others immediately interpreted this thread as that. i can bet most others that were involved in the israel-palestine thread will immediately see this as some form of follow-up or reaction to your bullshit bluffing act. so what is it? me being self-centred or you just happening to have a completely coincidental thought about people being sheep, utterly disconnected from that thread? hmmm.

still waiting for the fiancee pics btw, mr. pageant judge.
Because, like every other topic on this forum, you're trying to make it about you. Your narcissism would put Narcissus to shame.

rofl your narcissism would put narcissus to shame

galt you are well classically educated!

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2011-02-24 09:37:50

#50

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6273|...

The topic was never about edward said to begin with, if I recall correctly galt called it "the biggest collection of crybabies" and well, it was nothing more than a collection of essays. All he did was edit it.

Then suddenly everyone went in a rave about Edward Said.

Furthermore, stating that the blame for the entire conflict lies solely with Israel is nothing short of hilarious, and that they should be the ones to compensate more because they're in the position of power doesn't make sense to me either..

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